[Super_BQ]

Though the article is aimed towards statistics on Maoris boys, it does mention that 20% of the underachievers were western caucasions "Pakeha boys".

IMO, 20% does seem pretty high. When I finished high school it was rare to see more than a few in your classroom to fail or drop out.

Speaking from a Canadian perspective, the native indians have a similar (or even worse) track record than the Maoris. However, of those that manage to get through school (and university education is all paid for &/or in some cases, they are paid to go to uni), they manage to become top lawyers and have successfully sued the gov't in getting their land and natural resources back + some big payment by the gov't.

I suppose if there wasn't some benefit for the indigenous people of the country, then you'd see rival battles and takeovers similar to what happened in Fiji

BQ

[jailhouse]

BQ, please excuse my ignorance, but what are "Pakeha boys" and does the report say why they under achieve.

If relevant to above, how come Maori students can get funded\paid to go to University but "Pakeha's" cannot. I have used the singular incase there are female "Pakeha's" as well. Forgive me if this is a local slang term, as for example, "mucka" here in the UK means a friend.

jh

[nippa&pippa]

BQ, please excuse my ignorance, but what are "Pakeha boys"

Non-moari (NZ european/white) boys!!! :laugh

[jailhouse]

TY, Sophia.

Like most things in NZ, nothing seems straight forward. !!!!

jh

[ruthyroo]

There are a few ways that Maori students can access full scholarships for further education where pakeha students cannot. Many Maori tribal assets, particularly land and other natural resources are technically owned collectively by the tribe (iwi), and they are managed by trusts. The trusts are (ideally) manage the assets to produce an income stream which is distributed to the various members of the iwi. Some income is distributed in the form of payments to beneficiaries (members of the tribe), some as grants or loans to people seeking to establish businesses, and some as scholarships to young people wanting to go to Uni / college. Only members of the iwi can generally access these sources of funding.

The controversy arises in a number of ways, not least - how do you decide, after years of inter-marraige who's in the tribe and who isn't? How do you ensure that money is distributed fairly while observing traditional tribal protocols that might be seen to be unfair or nepotistic?

[Cliff&Wend]

[QUOTE=Super_BQ;114844]Though the article is aimed towards statistics on Maoris boys, it does mention that 20% of the underachievers were western caucasions "Pakeha boys".

Having woked in schools, here most of them are staffed by white 'anglo saxon' types,often the only people of colour you'll see in schools are for 'Kapa haka' stuff and cleaners.
Maori boys need role models not Jane Austin

[Carol]

Having woked in schools, here most of them are staffed by white 'anglo saxon' types,often the only people of colour you'll see in schools are for 'Kapa haka' stuff and cleaners.
Maori boys need role models not Jane Austin


Jane Austin?

A friend of mine worked as a teacher in a local school which had a full Maori Immersion Unit in it.
A good part of her job involved working with Yr 7 and 8 Maori students who were failing. These kids came from an environment where all they had ever spoken was Maori.

Not a white teacher in sight!

I think there is probably a bit more to it that that.....although it is a fair point in some schools.
She used to tell me it was incredibly frustrating to deal with kids who had McDonalds delivered to them at the school EVERY day.
:exit

[willsken]

Though the article is aimed towards statistics on Maoris boys, it does mention that 20% of the underachievers were western caucasions "Pakeha boys".

IMO, 20% does seem pretty high. When I finished high school it was rare to see more than a few in your classroom to fail or drop out.


BQ

Is it 20% of the total kids who underachieve?

[Trigirl]

this i think is the stat beig referred to:

53% of Maori boys who left school in 2005 had no NCEA qualification compared to 26% of Pakeha boys

[willsken]

Thanks. Shall reflect.... :)