[alan999]

Looking at the draw this week it seems that out of 451 "onshore" EOIs selected from the pool only 17 didn't have a job offer, and of these 15 had experience in an "absolute skill shortage" work area.

I take "onshore" to mean UK applicants to the London office. Sobering reading for those hoping to emigrate purely on the strengths of their qualifications. Only 2 EOIs being pulled without offers or work experience in a shortage area.

Or have I got it wrong?

[Rusty]

Hi
I understood it that 'Onshore' would mean in NZ as it is NZIS that produce the info. Also, if you are in NZ and applying, it is likely you will have a job/offer otherwise you are taking a chance in processing times on a visitors visa.

But, I think you are right, A job offer is looking more essential.
Like you, I am hoping to use qualifications.

Good luck

[alan999]

But these are details from the London office. If onshore were to mean from within NZ the figures are even more bleak, ie only 241 EOIs from outside NZ, ie the rest of the world were selected. That can't be right?

[wiki]

If you were looking at this page: http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/general/generalinformation/news/smc280207.htm

Those are figures for the whole world - and onshore does mean NZ.

If you read the factsheet PDF that goes with it, table 3 shows that 26.3% of applicants are from GB which is a fair whack.

But yes, it is always an easier process with a job offer, and it's easier to get a job offer in most fields if you are in NZ.

[Rusty]

The information is issued by the Dept of Labour in NZ and sent to each office and the interweb site.
But, I agree, bleak it is.

[alan999]

If you were looking at this page: http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/general/generalinformation/news/smc280207.htm

Those are figures for the whole world - and onshore does mean NZ.

I always thought the figure of around 700 pulled from the pool every fortnight was just the UK figures. If I'd known only about 200 per fortnight were pulled for the entire world outside NZ I wouldn't even have bothered trying!

Ignorance is bliss!!

[Trigirl]

i assume you mean the details from the selection made during the week? if so those are details form worldwide not the london office. there is no london selection - all selections are made from the total pool and are done here in NZ.

onshore means applications by people currently living in NZ, offshore is applications from overseas. about 1/4 to 1/3 of the total selections coming from offshore is about normal.

i don't see how you can jump from that to a job being essential though? only about 1/4 of offshore ones had a job.

[Trigirl]

too slow - sorry

[alan999]

i assume you mean the details from the selection made during the week? if so those are details form worldwide not the london office. there is no london selection - all selections are made from the total pool and are done here in NZ.

onshore means applications by people currently living in NZ, offshore is applications from overseas. about 1/4 to 1/3 of the total selections coming from offshore is about normal.

i don't see how you can jump from that to a job being essential though? only about 1/4 of offshore ones had a job.

I jumped as usual by mistake. However I am even more shaken by learning that only 241 EOIs from outside NZ were selected, and of those only 30 without either job offer or significant work experience in an area of absolute skill shortage. And if I have it right, only 26.3% of selected EOIs or 63 were from GB although I can't see how many of these did or didn't have offers.

Don't let me put anybody off though, if I can get pulled from the pool, anybody can.

[Trigirl]

i think the point is that it doesn't really matter how many people get pulled out. its not like they are only pulling out 10% of people in each category - if a category makes it into the selection then everyone in that category gets selected.

at the moment you basically need over 140pts, a job offer, or points for work exp/quals in an are of absolute skills shortage. if you are in those categories you will get selected although if you are in the last one it may take a selection or two as they don't get pulled out in every one.

but last year there were only 4 selections throughout the whole year where people who weren't in those categories got selected. even then they only went down to 115 points at the lowest. so if you are not in those categories you may need to consider a plan b (ie a job offer)