[MB]

Important Disclaimer: the situation I describe below has not yet been fully investigated. There may be a very legitimate reason for the points deduction. But the oddness of the situation prompts me to post early in case this helps others.

We were selected on Oct 27 with 115 points claimed. Today I logged onto the printable version of our EOI and saw that - on a Sunday (Date Modified: 12/12, when regular NZIS staff are v.unlikely to work)- we had been decreased to 105 points.

The section that seems to have been changed is the Spouse Qualifications section. But in our case the qual is a solid BA with Hons from a fully NZIS-recognized UK university. Nothing weird about it, we think. And the spouse in question (me!) did the degree, of course, entirely in English.

I called the Welly office immediately as I noted that this Sunday was also a day when big technical changes were made to the NZIS site. So I feared a computer error of some kind. I spoke to several officers and they observed that no explanatory note had been added to our EOI and that the change could have been an error. They had me fax our query to the EOI Team, which I did immediately. Am awaiting response.

So please check your printable EOI.
I am very sorry if ours is a legitimate deduction -- I don't want to mislead or alarm anyone -- but if it is a computer error I don't want folks right near the selection point to have their points claim dangerously affected.

Will keep you posted.

Matt.

[MB]

Update: we have just gone through our EOI and found that both spouse and principal applicant's answer to "Are you claiming points for a qualification?" has been re-set to "No" !!

But surely that doesn't make any sense? If they really were set to 'No', so to speak, our points total would be down around 50 'cos we suddenly wouldn't be claiming 55 for an MA or 10 for a spouse BA. And yet, even despite today's weirdness, we're at least pegged at 105 according to the top of the EOI!

Still awaiting response to fax. I won't add the new weirdness to our query until they answer the first fax.

Matt.

[bbq]

Hi Matt

Thanks for the reminder. I just checked mine, and luckily for me, my points total has gone up to 115 from 105. ( I cannot claim any points for spouse qualifications, so short of sacking her....)

Mind you in 3 weeks, I lose points due to hitting a big age step :(

They never changed the date modified and I am still only selected, having once been "successful"!

I hope your situation is resolved soon

cheers

alex

[Milliemoo]

Hi,

Just checked our form and they've increased our points to 125 (from 115) and it now has date modified 13th Dec! :P


Hope this means we'll have something in the post this week. :mrgreen:

Milliemoo ;)

[markkellaway]

Just checked mine as well (We already have been invited to apply but you never know!). Points have gone from 115 to 125, still says decision successful.

Sounds to me as if there was an error putting your info through the new system Matt, I would imagine it must be computerised so perhaps you are the unlucky soul who's discovered a bug?

I'm sure it will be OK. :nice1

Mark. :P

[bbq]

Update

I checked again and now my date modified has moved to 13 Dec, so someone or something has done something today....still only "Selected" though.

cheers

alex

[nickbraddock]

Hi,
I've also checked mine today and have noticed that my points have gone up from 120 to 130 (selected 15th sept) and it too was modified today, no obvious reason! I was excited that mine had been modified until I read this thread, looks to me like the computers playing up :no

Hope I'm wrong and my status changes to successful, what a good Xmas present that would be!
Cheers
Nick

[MB]

Actually, Nick, I wouldn't be too sure that most of the increases mentioned here are mistakes, because part of the December Enhancements 'package' was that certain adjustments would be made automatically to folks' EOIs. So who knows? Maybe this applied to already-selected EOIs, too. See my thread on Enhancements that I started a day or two ago (in the midst of my current anxiety, I'm looking at that thread with misty, poignant ambivalence :roll: !)

I'm just pleased if I got folks to look at their EOIs and they came up trumps. Great! But I'm still chewing my nails. Thanks, Mark et al, by the way, for your support. :nice1

Cheers,
Matt.

[Milliemoo]

I can't login now! I tried once and it said that I'd exceeded my attempts at the password???? :roll:

Milliemoo ;)

[Dave & Sandra]

We too have lost points for spouse - but our points are now down to 85 :wah

Dave's job is now also on the new 'Long Terms Skills' which was previously POL. We only had 105 to start with and Dave's points are the 20 missing points. He is also the one with the important qualifications Chartered Stuctural Engineer and he is working. I've also been told to fax EOI team which I've done.

It was this weekend that they updated the site with the new points

I am really panicking now. I have to get a job ASAP.

Sandra

[MB]

Sandra,
I understand your trepidation (believe me!) but surely this is -- like ours, I hope -- a mistake?
Unless I'm mising something, why on earth should you guys suddenly be down by 20 points?

Things'll work out for us, I'm sure.
:nice1
Matt.

[MB]

Oh, and Sandra, check your current online printable EOI and compare it with your originally-submitted EOI v.carefully for anything else. As I said, we found that BOTH of us have suddenly been marked down as a simple "No" for "Are you claiming points for a qualification...?"
Well, if the answer really is "No", our points our down to about 50!!

Matt.

[Bubbles]

matt
I know it won't help but I've just logged onto nzis to check and nothing has changed with regard to my status. I have done a few other checks, one of which was to recalculate my points online. I was sitting on 110 pts and now it shows I have a potential score of 130.

Hope all goes well

John

[clg]

Out of curiosity I just looked too. I just got an email saying my ITA was in the mail last week. I loged into the NZIS site and my points were the same. I took the test though and my score jumped from 115 to 125 so it looks like they are trying to work some of the changes they made into the applications already submitted.

For those whose points dropped, did you try the quick calculator? It may just be that they made some mistakes with the updates they made over the weekend.

[jhsay]

I haven't checked our EOI since it was submitted in Sept. We had 110 pts then. Now its down to 100pts. It's the spouse's qualifiations that is missing. I'm now trying to locate the "old" EOI I printed. I hope it's just a system error. :wah
I'm sending NZIS an email a little later so that they can investigate on this.

Jinkee

[jhsay]

There's one more thing I noticed. In the Partner's Health section (I'm the partner by the way), my declaration that I am on medication is missing too. I did declare that I have hypothyroidism that requires hormone replacement. Has anyone experienced this too?

Jinkee

[MB]

Yes. Sorry to sound like a broken record, but this is why I'm suggesting folks go through their EOIs in detail and compare with the version they saved and/or printed at time of submission (if you did so).

I'm very ready for NZIS to illustrate to me that our adjustments are deliberate, but for now the math and the nature of the changes just don't make sense. I'm not despondent having been given a good reason for a change (that would likely be just our hard luck). I'm worried 'cos the changes seem huge and decisive, with no explanatory notes appended to our account (NZIS's observation, not mine), and they seem to have been made - however you cut the time differences - at a weekend and a weekend during which big changes were being made to NZIS site.

Cheers to all - get those faxes in!
Matt.

[Dave & Sandra]

Hi all is explained - I've had an e-mail from NZIS

Hi Sandra
Thank you for your fax re loss of points in regard to your husband's qualifications. There is a system area that has now been identified and will be rectified as soon as possible. Qualifications and points should then be reinstated. Apologies for this.

Regards
Gina Jessen
Expression of Interest Team
New Zealand Immigration Service
Tel: 0064 4 914 4384
Fax: 0064 4 910 5420
email: gina.jessen@dol.govt.nz



Thank goodness :clap

[MB]

:yes We got a very similar e-mail, too, Sandra, from Gina Jessen.
Phew!

In starting this thread, guys, did I actually set a historic precedent for me by posting something that other forum members found:

a.) susbtantially interesting
b.) substantially correct
c.) substantially useful
d.) substantially popular ?

If so, that alone is a good start to our family Christmas trip to the UK. We leave tomorrow on BA! So my posting may be more sporadic for a while.

Happy Holidays and all the best with your applications!

Christmas Cheers, :cheers
Matt.

[Dave & Sandra]

Have a wonderful time in the UK Matt - and Merry Christmas. Guess we will sleep a little easier tonight. :clap

Sandra

[MB]

Heh! Thanks so much and the same to you. Yeah: hope you guys and we are going to be okay. All the best.
Amusingly, last night I really was -- because of all this -- the quintessence of someone in a stage play playing Man Restless In His Sleep Because Of A Fretful Topic.
I kept waking every so often, turning from side to side, staring into the middle distance, and re-pulling the duvet around me to cajole myself back into sleep.
You'd have been proud of me. :laugh

Matt.

[chuchi]

hi,

can anyone help me? i've been trying to print our EOI and a window pops up saying:

"Access denied

Sorry, but you've been denied access to this page. Possible reasons include:

your session has timed-out
you've tried to access a page that you don't have permission to access
you don't have 'cookies' enabled on your browser.

We suggest you close all browser windows, log in once more to the New Zealand Immigration Service website, and try again."

what do i do so i can print my eoi?

[MB]

Could be they're in the process of working on your EOI given the recent hiccups.
Or could be you've done something as simple as mis-typing your password (doubtful) or leaving CAPS-LOCK on if it's case sensitive.
Probably not your fault and it's probably temporary. Try re-booting and going in afresh.

Matt. :nice1

[MB]

Oh - and make sure you haven't (accidentally?) changed your browser security settings so that they're now fierce about not allowing cookies, etc.

Matt.

[chuchi]

hi matt,

how do i check the "cookies" thing? not that knowledgeable on such things.

thanks.

[MB]

Chuchi - I'm going to say two things. One, I'm relatively ignorant, too, so will bow to someone who knows this area better. Two, chances are that you won't have changed your settings by accident after all (it would probably involve going up, in Internet Explorer, say, to your Tools menu, then Internet Options, then clicking on Privacy and/or Security and changing various levels.)

I really advise against messing with these settings until you get someone on forum who knows about this. Could be more trouble and could mess around with your favourite sites/settings.

So leave 'em and try NZIS later. NZIS are v.possibly working to remedy these weird problems some of us have been having hence the lack of access for you right now.

Matt.

[renrob]

Hi Chuchi,

I've encountered your problem for several times. What i did was to log-out and shut down my pc and i get back to it after sometime(means--few hours). I think it's a problem on their system so don't worry. :angel

[chuchi]

was able to work around my problem...

i just right-clicked the link that says PRINT and selected PRINT TARGET and the document came right out of the printer. but i still cant see the printable document in my computer screen. oh well. anyway, thanks to all those who tried to help.

anyway, looking at our EOI, our points are also down by 10. as expected, partner qualifications were not considered. i really hope this is just a computer glitch.

will try to contact the EOI team to inquire.

[Terry&Sophie]

Our EOI has done the same, down 10 points with my points as a partner with a recognised qualification disappeared! Was going to contact NZIS anyway because I just found out mechanical engineers (like me!) have been added to the longterm shortage list (POL) as well as civil engineers (like Terry!), so looks like we're both in demand now!

Hope they sort out the hiccups with the system too. Makes me wonder whether they would get round to finding the errors if we didn't notice and let them know :? !

Good luck, everyone, it's going to be a bumpy ride! :roll:

[MB]

Just to say it one more time: check the whole of your current, printable EOI, too. Compare it with what you submitted.
I'm only harping on this 'cos we noticed the partner qual thing, then I saw that prncipal app's qual claim had been set to "No", too.

Ooh - my 100th post! Is that another airplane? :booby
Matt.

[feathers]

Hi

Mine too has had the 'are you claiming points for a qualification' bit reset to No.
My view is that as long as its still showing selected then there really is nothing too much to worry about, I am hopeful that NZIS will get us all there in the end!!

Happy Xmas
Feathjers

[nickbraddock]

I e-mailed the EOI team and the lady replied stating that she was surprised my points had gone up but stated that my EOI had been passed to London to be allocated to someone there. Does that mean I am nearly at the successful stage????
I am waiting for her to reply with an answer. Anyone have any ideas??
Nick :hopeso

[chuchi]

just checked and the 10 points missing yesterday is now reinstated in our EOI. so i think NZIS has addressed whatever glitch they had.

hope everyone gets back their points!

[Annierobrigado]

hi everyone,

i just got the letter from nz that says our eoi had been selected (through snail mail of course) and our points were 125. I thought we had 115. well... as long as the cut off is still 100, any points is okay with me. i havent checked the nzis website so far, though...

reading your posts makes me wonder, however am i gonna check with the nz office, there's none here in manila, the nearest one is in bangkok?!

whatever, just have a merry christmas!!

annie

[Terry&Sophie]

Yay, my missing 10 points are back too! :nice1

Excitement over, back to the waiting game now :( :hopeso

[jhsay]

I'm ok now, too... :nice1

-jinkee

[abbie & john]

Hi All

NZIS must have been flooded with queries as thier is now a posting re: system glitch when you log in.

[catjlin]

Just wish I had logged onto here a few days ago. I accessed the NZIS webpage a few days ago and our EOI had been changed and we were only given 90(!) points. I was so upset I didn't log on here or go back there until today. Now our EOI is back at 100(!!) points and shows a modified date of 17/12/04. Don't know if this is a good or bad thing, but at least we're back in the running!! :hopeso

Separate note, how do you get NZIS to respond? Our EOI is in Dunedin and I have phoned, emailed and even faxed requests for information and I haven't hear one single peep from them!

Thank you!
Cat

[Bubbles]

ERROR IN EOI POINTS CALCULATION



(Log In follows message)



We have discovered an error in our EOI system, which occurred as a result of our latest release. The errors concern the calculation of points for qualifications.



In some cases, the system has changed the responses to the qualifications questions from YES to NO, for both the principal applicant and the partner. As a result, some applicants' points totals have decreased.



We are currently fixing this fault and we hope to have the system working properly as soon as possible. Our processing staff are aware of the issue and are taking care when assessing points claims to ensure that correct assessments are made.



This error only affects EOIs lodged before 13 December. If you are lodging an EOI for the first time now, your application will not be affected.



Once we have resolved this issue, we will post a notice on this page.



We apologise for any inconvenience that we may have caused users.