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Pip
15th May 2007, 05:45 PM
Thought I'd share with you our experience to date! From reading other threads apparently it can go quite smoothly, but I think ours is an example of what can happen.. and its still not over...:uhoh

Back in Jan, we looked into shipping our car (fairly high spec audi) as well as our belongings, and decided against it. Put it on autotrader, but the best offer we got was £3K from a dealer under what it had been valued at. We were about to accept and then thought about it, and worked out that it was £1200 to ship, another £600 for insurance and a couple of hundred to re-register. That way for approx £2k versus a £3K loss, at least we would have a car that we'd had from new, knew the history of, was four wheel drive, and should hold its value in NZ etc...so far so good. Checked with Wallie at NZ AA that it was frontal impact compliant and all was looking good.

Having made the sudden about turn, we decided to send it ahead of our other stuff, working on the assumption, the quicker it got here, the less time we would need to rent a car. dropped it of to John Mason who steam cleaned it, prepared it for shipping etc and got on with packing up the rest of our lives.

Get to NZ at beginning of March, chased up car and find out that sadly it didn't ship from Southhampton for several weeks after we dropped off and is due in port on April 17th. Not great, but thats life.. had several conversations with moving co about registration paperwork etc for customers and then called on 16th to finalise arrangements, only to be told the ship was delayed a week. (hmm.. maybe they could have mentioned that earlier!)

Called back a week later (in the mean time the rest of our goods had arrived, so so much for that plan!), and moving co assured me it was arriving that day ( April 24th). By this time, we've learnt how to read the shipping schedules and know its not actually due until three days later, on the friday. In fact OH watches the ship dock on friday evening and unload on the Lyttleton port webcam!

Call Moving Co the following monday to chase up on MAF inspection/customs. Despite paying John Mason to steam clean car, MAF send it off for further steam cleaning at $350. Moving Co also report that car is 'damaged', steering rod broken - although exterior is fine. (People with mechanical knowledge advise this is not sue to voyage but careless loading/unloading and it prob fell of the ramp either due to JM/MC.) Another three days pass while MAF approved cleaners come and take it on car transporter (can't be driven as not registered), steam clean it and return to Moving Co. MAF re-inspect, and pass it. Moving co agree to take to compliance testing centre (and after several phone calls and a couple of days actually get round to it). Compliance test centre reports no damage to steering (they can drive it on dealer plates), but a gouge out of spoiler underneath, so looks like MC thought they had damaged it after some reckless unloading, but actually hadn't - phew visions of UK insurance claims nightmare start to recede).
Compliance centre come back and say that the brakes need new brake pads and wheels aligning. OH arranges for car to be taken to wheel alignment place recommended by compliance centre, pays for wheels aligned and returned to compliance centre, who look at alignment and are still not happy. At this point,I suggest to OH that we send it to Audi, who look at the wheels and say, "ah - previous garage were working from out of date book", so have to pay Audi to align wheels correctly! At this point was getting quite excited, as just the brakes to be done, then checked by compliance centre and car would finally be ours (nearly four months after dropping it off!). However this afternoon, Audi phoned and said it needs new suspension springs to pass compliance (even though compliance people didn't mention that), and guess what - the parts are in Singapore and will take at least eight days to arrive!

At this point, I'm not sure whether to laugh, cry or both! Now hopefully our tale is an exception, but I know a few people have been thinking about shipping vehicles, so wanted to show both sides of the coin...

As you can imagine - the saga of the car is now running joke in OH's office as I have to drive him to work every day, so much for being unemployed and getting a lie in..:laugh

speckythecky
15th May 2007, 07:54 PM
Sounds like a nightmare Pip,

We decided against shipping our camper for different reasons, the age and rust made it impractical.

Hope you get the audi back soon, one good thinng, it will be properly aligned, have new brakes and new suspension, and as you said in your post, it will be your car, you know its history.

dharder
15th May 2007, 09:58 PM
Thought I'd share with you our experience to date! From reading other threads apparently it can go quite smoothly, but I think ours is an example of what can happen.. and its still not over...:uhoh


Oh dear, sorry to hear about your ordeal! Hope it'll all be okay in the end and it will just be a funny story to tell people over dinner :)

I'm hoping to ship our car, mainly for similar financial calculations as yours: looked at shipping costs, what we would get here if we sold it, and conluded we couldn't get a decent replacement for that. I'm also quite attached to my car.

Whenever we mention this, though, people seem to think we are silly, and really, there are plenty of cheap cars in NZ. So I'm really hoping our shipping will go relatively smoothly so we don't hear the 'told you so' to many times...

My favourite experience so far as been the fact that we need a compliance certificate before we enter the country in order to be allowed to take it to the compliance testing centre to get a compliance certificate...

Did your car go in its own container, Pip?

Daniela

The Hodges
16th May 2007, 01:10 PM
Pip

Pass my condolances on to Stu, as I know how frustrating it must be to have your car locked up so you can't drive it. Let us know how it works out in the end.

Not that this helps, but my car was sold, and I got the money at the beginning of this week. Only two and a half months after I left the UK and a bit less than I would have liked (isn't that always the way), but at least I can buy a car over here now...

Speak soon

Tony

jonSE
16th May 2007, 10:34 PM
Wheels need aligning for compliance ????? No way unless the steering rod was actually damaged in shipping in which case a wheel alignment will be required after replacing the damaged components.

If the suspension wasn't damaged but the wheel alignment is out for other resons then it would be advisable for the alignment to be checked (I am certain the compliance people don't check it for compliance reasons) just to prolong your tyre life and make the car corner and brake as intended.

As far as Audi saying you need to change the springs for compliance - unless they are providing a compliance statement (I don't think they are from your original post) - they are preying upon your perceived lack of knowledge. I would get them to put in writing why they need to be changed before you even think about having the work done. Then get back to the compliance folk (be nice to them - they generally will go out of their way to help you) and get them to confirm what was wrong with the alignment that requires it to be corrected.

HTH

benandclare
17th May 2007, 07:45 AM
Sorry to hear about your trials and tribulations :wah

Looking at shipping over 1 year old Fiesta diesel , cant stomach the drop in value we'd take by selling it here, UK.

If we did sell it reckon we'd be looking at 15 to 17K NZD to buy 4x4 for skiing ,and also small run around :laugh

Pip
17th May 2007, 12:11 PM
Thanks everyone.. in answer to a few questions, - the car went in a shared container, although with hindsight, we should have gone with a 40 footer and put it with our possessions, as even in a shared container it took a lot longer than we expected.

As for the compliance for compliance thing - I think , you need to ensure your car is compliant for frontal impact regulations before it can even enter the country. Once its arrived, it needs to be checked for compliance from a motoring standard, which is the second compliance piece and where we are having fun and games.

As for the wheel alignment thing, I'm completely confused as the compliance man at On Road definitely said it was for compliance, and so far its been aligned by Laycocks (who apparently did it wrongly as they were working off an old book), Audi, and apparently will need to be done a third time, after the new suspension coil has been fitted. We really are regretting not selling it now, even at the lower price the dealer offered.

here's a quick summary of our costs to date of bringing it, for simplification purposes, I'm going to go with a single currency..in this case NZD

John Mason shipping = $3240
Insurance =$1620
Additional steam cleaning/transport to MAF approved cleaner = $ 400
Wheel alignment no 1 = $70
Compliance check = $800
new Brake pads, suspension spring, wheel alignment/ labour = $ 2500

= $8630 or well over £3k GBP. Had we taken the dealer offer of £3k under the asking price, we would at least have had the cash to buy something else when we arrived several months ago, as we still don't even have the car yet! Also having been here for a while, I realise that $ is the price of a decent second hand car! Its also mad, that we're going through all these hoops, when I've seen the condition of many cars on New Zealand roads!

I also have a feeling that we are being taken for a ride here, by some of the parties involved, but don't know enough about NZ mechanical prices..

In the meantime, I'm just praying that's going to be the end of it, as its a big bill that we weren't expecting. The irony of course is that we can't even sell it, or we get hit for import duty. Sorry to put a dampner on it for people thinking about, but if we could go back, we definitely would not bring it..:no



never mind, the sun's shining, I can see the mountains, and they at least are free :clap Is it too early for wine yet ? (thankfully we brought that with us, so can drink it guilt free!)

nippa&pippa
17th May 2007, 12:40 PM
My OH's workmate who emigrated from UK brought his car over too and had lots, lots of problems with customs etc over his classic car, mini cooper. This was main reasons why we didn't bring our landrover 130 (also it has got some rust on it will fail WOF tests easy!!!:laugh despite how many rust cars in NZ, but they are begin funny toward import cars got a tiny trace of rust (hence that part of problems with mini car! :confused: )

Pip, i hope you get car soon! so we can carry on meet up for cup of tea!:nice1

Pip
17th May 2007, 06:24 PM
Pip, i hope you get car soon! so we can carry on meet up for cup of tea!:nice1


No worries on that score! thankfully my car wasn't frontal impact compliant, even though it was newer than Stu's, so sold it before we left the UK, and brought my little mx5 when we arrived, just a pain having one car as I have to drive Stu to work and collect him every day or be carless, not a good option if you leave in Ohoka..!. Also, was not good to move house with a MX5 sized boot! - thankfully our landlord lent me his toyota pick up or it could have been many trips and that was just the stuff which came with us on the plane! :laugh

uk_munros
31st May 2007, 02:20 AM
When we moved back last time we bought our trusty SAAB with us. When it got to NZ we got a phone call saying that MAF had impounded it cos there was soil in one of the wheel arches. Now I knew the car had been in the shippers warehouse for a couple of days by then and with my training in microbiology I helpfully pointed out that there was not much point in paying to have the wheel arch cleaned ($500) cos by now the entire warehouse would have been exposed to any bugs sitting in our wheel arch!

The very nice lady at MAF asked if I wanted to pay for the cleaning of the warehouse as well. At which point I shut my mouth, opened my wallet and paid the $500.

My SAAB came back with one very nicely cleaned wheel arch.!

kzn2nz
31st May 2007, 03:02 AM
Memo to self: Before leaving, set fire to car!

Pip
31st May 2007, 09:57 AM
Saw, there was a couple of posts on this, - so thought I'd a quick update..

We finally got the car on monday.. a month after it arrived in NZ! - a whole lot of headaches and extra costs, but at least we have it and hopefully it should be in good order for the next few months, having had various stuff done to it.

I complained to JM about the fact that I'd had to pay for it to be steam cleaned here, when I'd already paid them to steam clean it in the UK as part of their shipping services, and after a bit of to - ing and froing, they've agreed to refund the $400 NZD. They also said that it is starting to appear as though MAF are sending every car to be steam cleaned as a matter of course, so they are considering not bothering to clean them at the UK end, as they know it will be demanded at this end anyway....

The Hodges
31st May 2007, 08:36 PM
Cheers Pip for the update.

We hope that Stu is as happy as a pig in ... , well you know the rest.

May we all learn by other's trials...

T&C

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