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bob_the_engineer
5th June 2007, 11:08 PM
I spent a year in Hawke’s Bay and now the end of the summer and the autumn in Welly. I have to say I love both places, but they are remarkably different.

I’ve lived all over the UK and didn’t really mind moving about the various UK cities, all had their merits, but I didn’t feel attached to any one place, and was never particularly sad to leave.

That’s the funny thing, I miss Hawke’s Bay terribly, but you’d have to drag me kicking and screaming out of Welly! I love both places, they are both astonishing. It’s just hard to believe they are both on the same island, let alone the same country.

I’m going to visit the south Island in a few months, and I think that’s a bad thing, the kiwis in Welly rave about the place, what if I fall for that place too!

Anyway lets talk about Hawke’s Bay. One big draw back for me, work, there simply isn’t enough Hi-Tech stuff going on there. Don’t get me wrong there are astonishing companies there, the problem is in the word “astonishing”. You see these little companies are just that, astonishing, they scare the big boys so much that they buy them out and close them down (flipin kiwi ingenuity, it can go too far LOL!). Seriously two large engineering employers in Hawkes Bay closed because the French bought one and the Americans bought the other, then swiftly shut them down because the competition is easier to control if you own it. No disrespect, a sensible business move, I guess it’s just bad timing for me.

Well that’s why I had to leave the Bay, but a little about the place. For the gardeners out there, you spend the summer pouring water over the garden trying to keep it alive, and the winter hacking it back to try and stop it from growing. The winter brings the occasional frosty night (you get to watch the farmer running around in a panic at 3am). HB is brown, summer arrives and the entire place turns from green to brown. Evenings can be spent outside, and the weather is great once you get used to it. A recent visit taught me just what you get used to. I couldn’t sleep because it was too hot, I hadn’t noticed before, and you can’t go outside at lunchtime. I put my big floppy hat away when we left the Bay and I haven’t had much call for it since. I guess it’s all a matter of perspective. If your from India (lol heard some complaints) HB is freezing, if your from Scotland its far too hot (lol again heard some complaints there too). It is an odd place the weather forecast seems to portray it as not so different to anywhere else in the country, compared to Auckland it can be tortuously hot. The other thing is it can also be miserably wet and cool. It can rain heavily (really heavily) for a week without stopping. Then the sun can come out and cook the place to the point that the only insects you see moving are flies, the lawn dries and the floor cracks open, then dogs throw themselves in the ornamental fountains and refuse to get out. I’m not exaggerating I’ve seen this happen. You have to spend all four seasons there to form an opinion, it’s a strange strange (but beautiful) place.

Wellington, well that’s a completely different kettle of fish, at times it’s so cold that it reminds me of England, but if you built a house in the UK they way they build them here, well you probably wouldn’t survive the winter! It greatly skews your perception. You feel really cold and then find yourself peeling your coat off as you walk along the beach in very very late autumn. Wellington is stunningly beautiful, we walk our dogs in a place its Titahe bay. This particular place is of historical interest to the Mouri and was placed in trust by NZ broadcasting, so its open fields with 2 giant antennas on it, but trust me it’s stunning and a pleasure to visit. The cows wonder around the dogs and people, you can watch the ships sail in the bay, its an amazing place. Occasionally the wind picks up and then my favourite pass time is to open my jacket (with my hands planted firmly in my pockets) jump as high as I can and see just how far the wind can blow me!

Wellington is beautiful, utterly beautiful, and when you’ve had enough of being astonished then you can take a five min train journey (for less than the price of a bag of chips in the UK) and pop out in the middle of the city. If your don’t want o be astonished by more extraordinary views, well you can always half close your eyes. Head for Borders, and buy some French chocolate cake, and a bowl (yup a bowl LOL) of coffee and bury yourself in a book.

Laughing at the Wellingtonieons is always an amusing pastime. You see the thing is they have shelters that run along most of the pavements (to shelter if it rains, and god forbid it rains and the wind blows!). anyway the shelters extend right up to the road crossings, and quite honestly I’ve seem middle aged folk who deserve an Olympian gold for the speed they will dash across the road to get to the next shelter.

I haven’t seen it yet, but I understand the weather can go insane here, I’m sure the Welly folk have seen it all before, and all this is good practice for when those monsoons hit, but for a Yorkshire lad wondering around in a t-shirt laughing at the Welly folk who have tied their entire head up in a scarf (and I’m not convinced that anyone has told them they are actually water proof) well its just all amusing. I know I’m going to be the sorry one when it really hits the fan and I’ve only got a t-shirt on.

Well that’s my impression of Welly and HB, the plants are completely different the insects are completely different, the weather is completely different, but the people well they aint so different (sweet as bro, you’ll here the same and get a smile in both places) but the terrain, plants and just stuff is enough to convince you that you’ve moved countries all over again!

Bob

Brijan
5th June 2007, 11:16 PM
Hi Bob

If it rains in Welly and the wind blows i have great fun watching the visitors trying to keep their umbrellas in 1 piece:laugh :laugh
best to use a rain coat
Brian

vixxann
6th June 2007, 12:35 AM
Fantastic post thanks for doing this - I'd be interested to hear your opinions of South Island when you've got there :)

We've only been on a 3 week recce but saw both HB & welly - can see where you're coming from with your viewpoints!

Ana&Steve
6th June 2007, 05:05 AM
Enjoyed your post!:D
Ana

sizzlingbadger
6th June 2007, 07:14 AM
Excellet post

Glad to hear you're enjoying Wellington :D

clg
6th June 2007, 07:14 AM
Great Post! I get a kick out of all the people with scarfs in welly, glad you called it out. People overdress here at times, I reckon it is the cold houses. HB is a place I really think I could live in, I would miss the city though but I think I could survive! For now, we will just have to keep content visiting up there a every now and then. It is a great weekend trip.

Chris

zardell
6th June 2007, 07:32 AM
Wonderful post Bob.

Glad you and yours are enjoying Wellie and all it has to offer.

In a few months a 'Winter in Wellie' update from you would prove interesting reading I think - how about it ?

Julie

xx

Lupin
6th June 2007, 09:41 AM
Great post :)

StevieD
6th June 2007, 12:00 PM
Great post Bob, glad to see you back in good form!

Funny you should say this because the weather here being so changeable and so unpredictable is fascinating.
Take now for instance, in what would be early November in UK, I am sitting on my swing bench in glorious sunshine, dressed in a t-shirt and feeling the sun warm my bones. The leaves drop from the oak trees and wilow, with my lemon and mandarin trees in full bloom on the deck and my cup of freshly ground coffee is complemented by the wind chimes and birds singing their beautiful, but very different songs. This is what I wanted to come to NZ for, the fresh air, cleanliness and just downright relaxed air of a stunningly beautiful country. And this is winter!! Bring it on I say.

Enjoy Welly, the only time I have been there it rained and was grey, the people were scuttling between the shelters looking thoroughly miserable in the process, but I'm sure you will be fine, and have a good laugh in to the process :)

See ya mate

Steve

stu70
6th June 2007, 01:19 PM
Great post, felt like I was there already just reading it. Good luck.

willsken
6th June 2007, 01:25 PM
Lovely post Bob. I only did a flying visit to Wellington so I can't compare. We love Hawke's Bay and the weather is fantastic. It doesn't feel like winter here! OK the mornings and evenings can get a bit chilly. We love the plants and trees.... fascinating! :D

Lupin
6th June 2007, 02:23 PM
Hey StevieD, it's only 2 1/2 weeks to the winter solstice; it's early December :) :)

StevieD
6th June 2007, 06:51 PM
True, true, let me just take that on board, just came in from the back looking up at the stars in the sky, stunning, and still wearing a t-shirt :nice1

zardell
6th June 2007, 09:15 PM
True, true, let me just take that on board, just came in from the back looking up at the stars in the sky, stunning, and still wearing a t-shirt :nice1



I'm thinking that you must have your own little micro-climate in that part of Cambridge PB1 - star gazing in a t-shirt ??? Maybe it's the brandy keeping you warm...............:laugh

Got to say though, the stars are amazing aren't they.

:cheers

Julie

xx

Sam B
6th June 2007, 09:17 PM
He definitely does - I am in ski jacket as usual and under a duvet. I'm thinking of moving across the river so I can enjoy the warmer climes of Cambridge South - ha ha.

bob_the_engineer
9th June 2007, 07:36 PM
Thanks for the welcome back :) very kind



Bob

willsken
9th June 2007, 08:36 PM
True, true, let me just take that on board, just came in from the back looking up at the stars in the sky, stunning, and still wearing a t-shirt :nice1

If he's anything like all the boys in my house, including OH, it would take freeeezing weather for them not to be in teeshirts. Watching the footy today they were wearing teeshirts and shorts. I had 3 scarves, a coat and 2 hot water bottles!! :roll :roll :roll

able
10th June 2007, 01:48 AM
You see the thing is they have shelters that run along most of the pavements (to shelter if it rains, and god forbid it rains and the wind blows!). anyway the shelters extend right up to the road crossings, and quite honestly I’ve seem middle aged folk who deserve an Olympian gold for the speed they will dash across the road to get to the next shelter.


Great post Bob. Are these like bus shelters, or something else?

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