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Croft
26th June 2007, 12:31 AM
Just got back from, would you believe it, Reccy Trip No 3! We first went over in 2001, then again last year. This trip was primarily to activate our residency visas and look for houses.

The Flights

We flew out via LA to get the 46kg weight allowance. LA improves every time we go through - they were even going down the queue and handing out drinks, and smiling! I was surprised by how few were in the transit lounge though, only a 30-40. Incidentally, we were on the last ever flight for 777s on that route - they reverted back to 747s the following day.

Internal flight definitely have a quirky Kiwi character about them, for instance announcements like:

"Welcome to our flight to Auckland where weather conditions are better. It's warmer and, well, that's about it" (it was very wet, windy)

"First Officer xxx will be flying the aircraft so you can blame him for the landing" (because of the weather the landing was hard and fast).

I wish I could remember the rest of them but it had most of the cabin laughing.

We went back via HK, stopping over for a day there as we'd never been. As we flew out via LA all sectors had the 46kg allowance, a fact we had to point out to the chap checking us in at Christchurch who was going to charge excess baggage (but then again it was only his 2nd day!). We enjoyed HK, but it does restrict your menu choices as 1 is always Chinese in character.

All in all, I think we'll fly via LA in the future.

Auckland

We stayed in Auckland for 5 days, mainly to check we were making the right decision to settle in Christchurch. After seeing what we could get for our money and the commuting required, we decided Christchurch was the right decision. Apparently, if you see a parking space going for $60K then you should snap it up! It was amazing to see some of the bigger shops all grouped together, eg dozens of furniture stores, white good stores and car dealerships all grouped together.

I like Auckland, but it isn't for us.

Christchurch

The place we've decided to settle. Just like everywhere house prices have increased massively since 2001. Last year we were looking in the wrong price category so we've decided a mortgage is required for the kind of house and location we want.

Beware of buying sight unseen...

Thank goodness we didn't buy over the net. The OH fell in love with a house in Cust and was assured by the agent that it was only 35 mins from the centre of town. If you're going Warp Factor 10 maybe. I refused to bid for it without seeing it and it sold before we arrived. Thank goodness. It was miles out and very rural. The OH was highly relieved we hadn't bought it.

Auctions

There are an awful lot of houses up for auction - some agents seem to push that method of sale almost exclusively. It's not like the UK where houses go to auction if they can't be shifted - indeed it's the most desirable properties that do go to auction! It's hard to get an idea of price, and some agents can be very reticent about giving an estimate. My advice, if you're after the house get a valuer in to make make sure you're not wasting your time and going for a house that's outside your budget.

Even worse IMO is the tender where you submit sealed bids - thankfully not as prevalent as in Australia I'm told.

Prices

Supermarket prices are nowhere near as bad as we expected, especially in places like Pak'n'Save. Lots of goods at reasonable cost in places like Warehouse and K-Mart too. Also, we looked around at the factory shops and got some good bargains.

Driving

Once you have the hang of the priority from the right rule it's fine - some say Kiwi drivers are ruder but I haven't find that in any of my visits. I got the Rule of the Road manual for when we emigrate permanently next year

Food

Love L&P, Hokey Pokey Ice Cream and Cadbury's Rocky Road chocolate.

Skiing

Only managed a date at Mt Hutt. As it was only the beginning of the season, and they haven't had the snow dump like last year, only a couple of runs were open. An enjoyable day still, and very nice weather.

Conclusion

I love it. This trip has really confirmed that we want to be out there (though the OH found it very cold!!). I didn't want to go back to the UK and was verys ad to leave. Hopefully in a few weeks we'll own our own little piece of NZ, then early next year will see us there forever,

swissmissdesigner
26th June 2007, 02:42 AM
This is a great post and makes me jealous.
I want to be there right now and enjoy a cup of coffee.

Thnaks for sharing with us.

thezorbster
26th June 2007, 07:50 PM
Nice update Croft. We'll be in Christchurch in 7 weeks time - cant' quite believe it!:D

Croft
28th June 2007, 02:17 AM
Another thing...

Libraries

Well funded and friendly with lots of services. Internet access at Auckland Central Library is free (hooray!!), not so at Christchurch (booo!!!), though still much cheaper than commercial outfits. Loads of periodicals, nice cafe's, ytou can watch TV, kids can play console games etc. Interesting to see that they charge for high demand, recently published books.

They seem to be very much the centre of the community, with loads of other services and groups meeting there.

The best bit? They're open late and all weekend!

benandclare
28th June 2007, 04:14 AM
Nice update Croft. We'll be in Christchurch in 7 weeks time - cant' quite believe it!:D

Hear hear great post and see you down there :raebanana

7 weeks and 6 days for us
:raebanana

pinkpiggy
28th June 2007, 09:20 AM
Another thing...

Libraries

Well funded and friendly with lots of services. Internet access at Auckland Central Library is free (hooray!!), not so at Christchurch (booo!!!), though still much cheaper than commercial outfits. Loads of periodicals, nice cafe's, ytou can watch TV, kids can play console games etc. Interesting to see that they charge for high demand, recently published books.

They seem to be very much the centre of the community, with loads of other services and groups meeting there.

The best bit? They're open late and all weekend!


Once you're a member you can also go online and reserve books. If they don't have them in your local library they will get them from another branch for you. There is a small fee for this service but it's worth it to get what you want. :clap

thezorbster
28th June 2007, 11:15 PM
benandclare

7 weeks and 6 days for us

Not that you're counting or anything!:D

See you there guys - sounds like there's a few newbies heading out so methinks a newbie meet is called for around September time.

benandclare
29th June 2007, 04:40 AM
Not that you're counting or anything!:D

See you there guys - sounds like there's a few newbies heading out so methinks a newbie meet is called for around September time.

Now that sounds like an excellent idea :cheers

srivett
29th June 2007, 05:01 AM
That's a great idea! I don't suppose you'd be willing to delay it until November?

benandclare
29th June 2007, 08:06 AM
That's a great idea! I don't suppose you'd be willing to delay it until November?


Why not have one in Nov too? :raebanana :raebanana

srivett
30th June 2007, 02:56 AM
That works too :D

liamnrach
30th June 2007, 10:44 AM
Just got back from, would you believe it, Reccy Trip No 3! We first went over in 2001, then again last year. This trip was primarily to activate our residency visas and look for houses.

The Flights

We flew out via LA to get the 46kg weight allowance. LA improves every time we go through - they were even going down the queue and handing out drinks, and smiling! I was surprised by how few were in the transit lounge though, only a 30-40. Incidentally, we were on the last ever flight for 777s on that route - they reverted back to 747s the following day.



Croft

Me again! I'm interested as to what airline you used. We are going out on a recce next Feb, and the only flights I can find all have the 23kg limit per person? Where did you fly into in NZ? Cheapest flight I can find at the mo is £1843 (for 2 adults), with Singapore Airlines....but this is not via LA....

Any advice gratefully received. Glad your trip went well and the advice about the buying houses without seeing is good, we have seen some lovely houses on the web, but until you see them you just dont know eh?

Cheers

Liam n Rach

Croft
30th June 2007, 07:55 PM
Croft

Me again! I'm interested as to what airline you used. We are going out on a recce next Feb, and the only flights I can find all have the 23kg limit per person? Where did you fly into in NZ? Cheapest flight I can find at the mo is £1843 (for 2 adults), with Singapore Airlines....but this is not via LA....

Any advice gratefully received. Glad your trip went well and the advice about the buying houses without seeing is good, we have seen some lovely houses on the web, but until you see them you just dont know eh?

Cheers

Liam n Rach

We always travel Air New Zealand (http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/). They have regular special offers. Fe3b is an expensive time, but generally I would aim at £600-£700 per person. You've got a little time to wait for another round of flight sales and special offers, but don't leave it to late or you won't get the flights you want.

RamblingPaddies
15th August 2007, 03:51 AM
how did the whole activating the visas thing go ?

what do they do ? is it the same as going there on holidays or do you go into a different Q / room ?

holland
15th August 2007, 04:06 AM
Croft,

Great thread, very informative, I love reading threads like this they make me excitied again, as my emotions are all over the place at the moment with regards to this move. Thanks for info re Auckland Library and internet access.

J x

Croft
15th August 2007, 04:16 AM
how did the whole activating the visas thing go ?

what do they do ? is it the same as going there on holidays or do you go into a different Q / room ?

We just went into the NZ Residents queue at the airport (not the visitors one) - we checked at the NZ High Commission when I was getting the blue stamps re-issued and they said "You're residents now! Go through the Residents channel!".

The immigration officer just had a quick check we were in date with our PR visas, joked we'd left it a bit close to their expiry, asked us why we'd chosen to emigrate to NZ (out of interest only I think), then stamped our passports with our Residency Permits. He also said a lot of people go back, but the figures I've seen suggest that those are quite low for the UK at least.

Croft
15th August 2007, 04:20 AM
Croft,

Great thread, very informative, I love reading threads like this they make me excitied again, as my emotions are all over the place at the moment with regards to this move. Thanks for info re Auckland Library and internet access.

J x

Auckland library will give you a temporary membership (free) which will let you have access to the inertnet terminals. usually they're half an hour only, though some on the 1st Floor offer 1 hour. You can pre-book them for a specific time slot (or for the next available PC); if nobody has booked I've noticed the system seems to let you stay on for longer than your alloted time.

holland
15th August 2007, 05:10 AM
Thats such a fab tip Croft, thanks....will a passport suffice for membership, or will they need other ID?

Croft
15th August 2007, 05:17 AM
Thats such a fab tip Croft, thanks....will a passport suffice for membership, or will they need other ID?

I think that's all I provided - that's all I would have had anyway.

Jim&Karen
15th August 2007, 07:36 AM
Hi Croft great post we will be in Christchurch Jan 08 When are you planning to go info really helped

Thanks

Karen

Croft
15th August 2007, 08:30 AM
Hi Croft great post we will be in Christchurch Jan 08 When are you planning to go info really helped

Thanks

Karen

Hi Karen - we were planning early to mid 08, but that may change now as OH is getting cold feet!

Glad the info helped.

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