nippa&pippa
30th June 2007, 08:59 AM
In our children's room....My OH and I buffled on this, hope someone know more about and how we deal with it...
My house is rectangle size, with wall in the middle. Right side of house is open plan of kitchen, lounge, dining room and hall. Then Left side of house is three bedroom, en-suite, WIR, laundry room, bathroom and toilet. There is a door separate these two side. However our problem since we move in, is the very last two room on the left side, two bedroom, spare and children's always smell of cooking so strong, even we had roast chicken last night and children's room was smell so strongly that really putting off. Why this happening in their room and sapre room but not in any other rooms:confused: and how we can prevent this happening again? We thought it was previous owners' smells but since we moved in their room had carpet clean, curtains washed, bedding regulary washed etc and there is no toys in their rooms apart just clothes for easy cleaning (dd got ezcema) and smell was strong like roast chicken made us realise it is nothing to do with previous owners.
Thanks
swissmissdesigner
30th June 2007, 09:05 AM
Oh, brother! Sorry to hear that.
I would hire an inspector for that!
Although you can have some isolation problem in the house.
nippa&pippa
30th June 2007, 09:09 AM
Only idea i thought might be is cold air? as last two room is coldest rooms in the house as it is last place for heat to travel to from logburner in the lounge? but my OH pointed out that children's room have heater on during night to keep room temp at 16-18'C all night....
KerryS
30th June 2007, 09:26 AM
Sophia - do you have an extractor in your kitchen? Does it come out anywhere near your children's bedroom?
I have no other possible suggestions for what it could be, other than the air flow through your house...
John Z
30th June 2007, 09:40 AM
From what you describe I'd take a look at:
the heater (has it been used in/near the kitchen),
air/ventilation ducts (are they well installed, loose connections),
space between ceiling and roof (gaps where air gets through to/from kitchen and bedrooms).
If a (strong) wind is coming mostly from the opposite direction of the bedrooms, air gets sucked from the kitchen to these bedrooms. Again, you'd have to have a look at the possible problems mentioned above.
Hope this helps.
StevieD
30th June 2007, 09:43 AM
Do you have a lot of electrical appliances in the room or the house? Sometimes if wires are overloaded they can give off a smell that some people say smells like roast chicken....
Don't panic, it probably isn't this, but just something to bear in mind ...
Steve
Ana&Steve
30th June 2007, 10:25 AM
This happens to us in our master bedroom, which is furthest from the kitchen. I assumed that it creeps through the vents, but it would be nice to know for sure!
Ana
nippa&pippa
30th June 2007, 10:31 AM
Sorry took long to get back, kids want very long bath with me!! so we had fun:laugh
Been outside for you and look at bedroom too etc...
Right the house is 7 years old, so there is no gap etc in house, in fact very well sealed house. There is fan in kitchen that we do use it during cooking, working very well compare the rental house's doesn't work well. The vent for fan go outside at the front of house, while children's bedroom overlook the back of house further away from kitchen areas as in fact, these two room (kitchen and children's room) is further away from each other compare with rest of other room!!
Our living part (lounge, kitchen, dining room and hall) are open plan apart from a wall bang in the middle of all and a door to separate from bedrooms area, which hardly shut because of eldest can't open it well to go to toilet. One side of wall contain logburner in the lounge side as only form of heater in the house, other side of wall contain kitchen units while our cooker is against the wall to front of house wall.
In children's room, only electrical equipments is just heater, on from 6pm till we wake up in the morning to switch it off. I don't like put more electrical in the room because of two young children aged 17months and 4 tomorrow.
hope that help...
(just let you know i am now going out to shopping for ashley's birthday presents...will check again when i get back later..thanks guys for your help:cheers )
speckythecky
30th June 2007, 08:36 PM
There is fan in kitchen that we do use it during cooking, working very well compare the rental house's doesn't work well. The vent for fan go outside at the front of house, while children's bedroom overlook the back of house further away from kitchen areas as in fact, these two room (kitchen and children's room) is further away from each other compare with rest of other room!!
It might be worth checking that the extractor is actually taking the smell from the kitchen to the outside.
Spray something from inside the kitchen with the fan turned on and then check if you can smell it from outside. It is probably worth trying this with something thats smell nice just incase the smell does get into the bedroom.
The only other things I can think is that the smell is travelling along the electrical trunking or that it is rising from the kitchen, into the loft space and then, due to convestion currents, is cooling into the children's room. Try putting the heater on in the children's room before you start cooking.
nippa&pippa
30th June 2007, 11:30 PM
Thanks i will try that on monday as out for ashley's birthday tomorrow..
tonight i made rich beef mince with rice and the smell wasn't bad in children's room...My OH thought about open the window in children's room while we are cooking to see if any difference...but I feel that shouldn't be happening in the first place
jonSE
17th July 2007, 10:09 PM
This isn't going to be solved on the Forum (unless by chance) as it would probably need someone to be there to experience it.
Sorry if this is teaching you to suck eggs but here goes anyway.
A few basic principles
Hot air rises - so it will go from a hot place into the roof and down in a colder place if there is a pathway for this to happen. Maybe the electric heaters in the childrens bedroom make that room warmer than the rest of the house and there is someway for the heat to go up. If there is then air will be drawn under the bedroom door from the rest of the house into their room.
When it is windy the side of the house facing the wind experiences a positive pressure (The force you feel when the wind is blowing at you). The other side of the house experiences negative pressure (suction - your body and brain can't actually work out that it is experiening this but if you face the wind your back is experiencing suction). If the wind is blowing at your kitchen (you may not feel any draughts in the kitchen, it may be completely sealed) the childrens bedroom on the other side of the house will experience suction and if the windows don't fit absolutely perfectly air wil be sucked out from their room, and with that, air from the rest of the house will be sucked into their room. (Along wiith the roast chicken smell!)
Lastly if the wind blows at a square house the front wall (facing the wind)experiences positive pressure as described above, the rear wall experiences suction, but importantly the side walls near the front wall experience a bigger suction than the rear wall. Then if the wind is not blowing straight at the front wall but at bit of an angle, then one side will not experience much pressure at all and the other side will experience lots of suction. In this case it is quite easy for the air flow or "wind" inside the house to blow in the opposite direction to the wind outside.
An easy way to find out what is happening when the wind blows in different direction at your house is to close all the inside doors and open the windows just the tiniest amount then using a lit cigarette or healthier an incense stick or somethink that makes a little bit of smoke held at the bottom of the doors to tell you which way the "wind" inside the house is blowing.
A gap as small as 0.1% of the surface area of a wall can have a huge effect on what the external wind pressure does inside a building. A closed inside door with a gap you can put your finger in at the bottom is very nearly the same as no door at all.
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