[vixxann]

ok just been doing some reading up on work permits etc.

Hubbie works in Landscape Construction but was thinking of going down either builder or carpenter route as both on Long terms skills list and he's many years experience in both. This would help us with points. However for work permits I've just read its not Long term but Immediate Skills jobs that count. Got this from NZIS website...

Your offer of employment must meet be:

in an occupation currently included on the Immediate Skill Shortage List or
from an employer who has a current approval in principle to employ you (please include a copy of the approval if you have it) or
accompanied by evidence from the employer that shows there are no New Zealand citizens or residents suitably qualified by training and experience available or
accompanied by evidence to show you meet the specific policy requirements of one of these categories:

Ministers of Religion, Missionaries, and Members of Religious Orders
Interpreters from Japan
Crew of Chartered Foreign Fishing Vessels
Thai chefs.


has anyone successfully got an employer to provide proof for your individual application? (eg. not appoval in principle to employer foreigners in general)

We've spoken / emailed loads of companies in NZ and he's several wanting him to contact them as soon as he arrives as they'd employ him. However, getting one to go through evidence procedures might be another matter. We're were wondering whether to get visas here rather than permits in NZ but might struggle now.

A company emailed him last night and more or less said he was perfect for a job they're advertising now - when is he arriving? They did also say they'd be interested to hear how they could help with immigration application - which is what's made me do this research today :)

[wilson182]

Vicki
I may have got the wrong end of the "thread" LOL, but do you know that the principal applicant can't get a work visa without a job offer?? Once he has his Job offer and work permit you would then get a work permit automatically - but initially one of you has to have an offer.

[vixxann]

Once on the ground in NZ getting the job offer won't be a problem (and I think this latest company might be willing to give a job offer to him whilst in UK as long as they know when he's coming over) the problem is the paperwork needed for a General Work Visa as Landscape Construction, or any division of it, is not on Immediate skills shortage list - the employers would need to prove they cannot fill position with a NZ resident.

Unless.... I've totally missed something I believe this is the path we'd be taking :confused:

[M&J]

As I understand it you are right. If job not on skills short list the employer must prove that they couldn't fill the position with a kiwi. Not sure how much evidence they would need, I would get them to ring the local immigration office and talk to them about it. My OH company did this although we was in a skills short list area, but they were really helpful.

Jo

[KerryS]

Once on the ground in NZ getting the job offer won't be a problem (and I think this latest company might be willing to give a job offer to him whilst in UK as long as they know when he's coming over) the problem is the paperwork needed for a General Work Visa as Landscape Construction, or any division of it, is not on Immediate skills shortage list - the employers would need to prove they cannot fill position with a NZ resident.

Unless.... I've totally missed something I believe this is the path we'd be taking :confused:


For an employer to prove that there is no-one locally qualified to fill the position is reasonably simple. They complete a form which you then submit with your work permit application. The form asks them to provide proof of advertising (where they advertised, how long for etc), and why you are suitable for the position rather than a Kiwi.
I had several of these before I decided to apply for PR, and never experienced any problems with getting employers to complete the paperwork for me.

[andrewandjane]

hi there,

donmt know what sort of level your looking for interms of landscape work but council i work for is an accredited employer so dont need to demonstrate local people first for jobs etc and have a fast track visa/ work permit route...

Position details
Position title: Qualified Landscape Person
Vacancy number: 50032370
Subtitle: Do you have a talent for landscape & environmental work and enjoy working in a team situation?
Location: Auckland
Position Family: City parks services
Date posted: 12/09/2007
Closing date: 19/09/2007

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Do you have a talent for landscape & environmental work and enjoy working in a team situation?

City Parks Services does contract work developing and maintaining parks and amenity landscapes.

This position involves working on a diverse range of projects from installation of commercial and residential landscapes, through to environmental restoration and planting and a variety of other outdoor landscape contracting work.

We need a well organised person with proven ability in this environment who is able to contribute to the profitability of the division

This is a fulltime position that may require some overtime

CPS can offer training opportunities and other staff benefits.
Closing Details: Applications to Heather Graham, City Parks Services, PO Box 8428 Symonds Street Auckland, or by fax to 634-4770, or e-mail to heatherg@cityparks.co.nz.

[speckythecky]

Vicki,

Kim's employer provided us with the form to say that the job she had been offered had been advertised to nz residents without success, this then allowed us to apply for work permits. We went down the pr route though once we had a job offer as we had sufficient points

J

[vixxann]

andrewandjane - sent you PM

Thanks for replies everyone. Sounds hopefull that the forms aren't too scary for the employer at that side then, I thought they might have to jump through hoops and be a bit unwilling to do so.

The last email he got sounded so positive I think that company might go for him but at moment we don't want to push it as we cannot come over yet anyway - House unsold :no

I want to get on with my life - aaaaaaaaaaargh :(