NZ Hopeful
5th October 2007, 02:49 AM
I was just wondering how bad can they be? Never having been to NZ I can't visualise :uhoh
dharder
5th October 2007, 03:07 AM
I was just wondering how bad can they be? Never having been to NZ I can't visualise :uhoh
What exactly do you mean? Crime? Houses? Poverty? And compared to what? The bad neighbourhoods somewhere else, or the good neighbourhoods in New Zealand?
We will live in Auckland, on the street that is pretty much the dividing line between an area that counts as 'most deprived' and one that is 'least deprived'. You will be able to see which side of the road is which easily.
Other than that, I have to say that I live in a supposedly 'bad' area now (in East London) and never found it particularly 'bad', but I guess it depends on what exactly you are looking at.
Daniela
What exactly do you mean? Crime? Houses? Poverty? And compared to what? The bad neighbourhoods somewhere else, or the good neighbourhoods in New Zealand?
We will live in Auckland, on the street that is pretty much the dividing line between an area that counts as 'most deprived' and one that is 'least deprived'. You will be able to see which side of the road is which easily.
Other than that, I have to say that I live in a supposedly 'bad' area now (in East London) and never found it particularly 'bad', but I guess it depends on what exactly you are looking at.
Daniela
NZ Hopeful
5th October 2007, 05:11 AM
I'm probably more concerned about crime rather than houses or poverty, although I suppose crime and poverty generally go hand in hand.
I would just like to live somewhere that is relatavely safe for young children :)
I would just like to live somewhere that is relatavely safe for young children :)
veronica
5th October 2007, 09:41 AM
the perception of how bad things are depends a lot on where you come from. Most of the south africans and people from big cities in the UK I have met here are relieved at how crime free it is, while people from rural villages or tiny towns in the Uk are a bit taken aback at how much crime there is.
We moved here from a village just outside Chelmsford to the eastern edge of the city (christchurch) Although its next to one of the BAD areas in Chch we haven't been too bothered by crime, we still walk the dog at night and apart from a breakin to the house before we moved in to it haven't been affected by crime. We run a backpackers and the kids staying there walk home at all hours of the night and so far (touch wood) we haven't had any incidents. I can't say anything about the other cities here as don't have first hand exsperience
We moved here from a village just outside Chelmsford to the eastern edge of the city (christchurch) Although its next to one of the BAD areas in Chch we haven't been too bothered by crime, we still walk the dog at night and apart from a breakin to the house before we moved in to it haven't been affected by crime. We run a backpackers and the kids staying there walk home at all hours of the night and so far (touch wood) we haven't had any incidents. I can't say anything about the other cities here as don't have first hand exsperience
NZ Hopeful
6th October 2007, 02:27 AM
Thanks Veronica, very helpful :)
Lupin
6th October 2007, 04:12 PM
Good post Veronica :)
NZ Hopeful- there are plenty of middling areas to live in if your budget is stretched :) Where are you hoping to settle?
NZ Hopeful- there are plenty of middling areas to live in if your budget is stretched :) Where are you hoping to settle?
NZ Hopeful
6th October 2007, 10:53 PM
We are looking at the Bay of Plenty area, specifically Tauranga but that depends on jobs etc, but definitely want somewhere warm :D
Veronicas post was really helpful, I grew up in Liverpool in what is considered a 'bad' area and I never had any problems so if it's going to be better than that then I should have no worries!
Veronicas post was really helpful, I grew up in Liverpool in what is considered a 'bad' area and I never had any problems so if it's going to be better than that then I should have no worries!
veronica
7th October 2007, 10:44 AM
got a liverpool lad working for us and he laughs at the idea of some of the chch neighbourhoods being bad. but it is all relative
andreamatt
7th October 2007, 01:55 PM
We came from a very sleepy hamlet in Devon and now live in the big, bad city of Wellington(!).
It is all relative. And as Lupin77 says there are some lovely middle-lower income areas.
Andrea
It is all relative. And as Lupin77 says there are some lovely middle-lower income areas.
Andrea
swissmissdesigner
8th October 2007, 02:12 AM
Tauranga has low crime and lot of wealthy people.
Should be no problem with neigbornhoods.
However Veronica is right: everything is relative!
Should be no problem with neigbornhoods.
However Veronica is right: everything is relative!
flatshoes
16th November 2007, 07:09 PM
Kiwi hub took me to a 'hood in Auckland that he considered "bad" for purposes of comparison and I thought it was pretty funny he considered that "bad"...I had worked in Anacostia and Suitland (Washington D.C.) for a number of years.
No comparison to U.S. or UK in that way I don't think.
No comparison to U.S. or UK in that way I don't think.
Georgebulldog
16th November 2007, 09:34 PM
We came from a very sleepy hamlet in Devon and now live in the big, bad city of Wellington(!).
It is all relative. And as Lupin77 says there are some lovely middle-lower income areas.
Andrea
Would love to hear of any areas in Wellington to avoid just to save a bit of time when we arrive l& ooking for somewhere to live
It is all relative. And as Lupin77 says there are some lovely middle-lower income areas.
Andrea
Would love to hear of any areas in Wellington to avoid just to save a bit of time when we arrive l& ooking for somewhere to live
kellyfamily
17th November 2007, 02:24 PM
Im a manchester lad and love Tauranga , crime is nothing like uk just the few boy racers during holiday season . Apparently there is the odd break in or beating but ive never witnessed anything or heard of anything too local.
bmi
17th November 2007, 03:06 PM
The bads are not in the cities but in the countryside. check out this:
http://www.blacksheep-themovie.com (http://www.blacksheep-themovie.com/)
http://www.toolfarm.com/uploaded_images/blacksheep-717981.jpg
http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/photos/blacksheep/blacksheep2.gif
http://www.blacksheep-themovie.com (http://www.blacksheep-themovie.com/)
http://www.toolfarm.com/uploaded_images/blacksheep-717981.jpg
http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/photos/blacksheep/blacksheep2.gif
Moorf
17th November 2007, 05:46 PM
:laugh bmi - I think we'll fail our citizenship as we haven't managed to watch it yet!! :uhoh
Sam'n'Kelv
17th November 2007, 09:57 PM
The tone of this thread seems to suggest that the more run-down / deprived areas of NZ are somehow safer than equivalent deprived areas in other parts of the world. This is a dangerous assumption. The fact is that wherever there is deprivation, there is crime - NZ is not immune. If you are a victim of crime, the brutality of it is felt just as keenly in NZ as it is in inner city London. Statistically per head of population you are just as likely to be a victim of crime in NZ as you are in the UK. NZ is not crime free. In fact among OECD countries NZ was recently ranked as the second most likely place for a violent crime to occur. Australia was number one.
We have been living in a semi-rural town outside of Auckland for just 4 months and my 17 year old son was recently mugged at knife-point on the way to work at 11am in the morning.
We have been living in a semi-rural town outside of Auckland for just 4 months and my 17 year old son was recently mugged at knife-point on the way to work at 11am in the morning.
ourquest
18th November 2007, 06:29 AM
It isn't only about the crime itself, but the ability of law enforcement to respond and apprehend (and rehabilitate). The impression we get of NZ is that there is a very high reporting rate for crime, combined with a welcome transparency from the police in publishing the occurrence of incidents, and this tends to skew statistics if you are comparing them with, for example South Africa. In SA the real rate of crime is far greater than the official figures, particularly when considering minor crimes, which in SA terms would certainly include muggings and probably a lot of domestic violence. And the official figures don't make comfortable reading to begin with...
With continued police support and activity in NZ one can be fairly assured that the crime levels will not increase dramatically, and they seem acceptable now, at least in the context of this thread.
With continued police support and activity in NZ one can be fairly assured that the crime levels will not increase dramatically, and they seem acceptable now, at least in the context of this thread.
veronica
18th November 2007, 12:35 PM
sam and kelly, I am one of the ones saying that the bad areas aren't as bad as the UK but am only speaking for Christchurch. I have no knowledge of the situation on the north island.
Moorf
18th November 2007, 12:57 PM
I do think the architecture and more spacious living areas, even in towns, gives a more non-threatening atmosphere. Not sure about other major towns in NZ, but in Chch there aren't the estates of flats or terraced housing with the concentration of crime that there are in the UK. Another benefit of low population.
But yes, I've always said, no matter where you are, be it in the countryside or centre of town, you need common sense wherever in the world you are. I don't think you can come here and let your guard down. Being mentally prepared also means that if, god forbid, you did become a victim of crime it won't completely burst your NZ bubble.
But yes, I've always said, no matter where you are, be it in the countryside or centre of town, you need common sense wherever in the world you are. I don't think you can come here and let your guard down. Being mentally prepared also means that if, god forbid, you did become a victim of crime it won't completely burst your NZ bubble.
KD17
18th November 2007, 08:53 PM
http://www.riverstonelounge.co.nz/forums/viewforum.php?id=13
I asked that same question a year or so ago..! :)
The above link will take you to the weekly crime reports for Upper Hutt so you can make an informed decision should you wish to live in that area (as we are about to)
As many have rightly said, it is all a matter of perception and where you come from. Through my eyes many of the neighbourhoods can look a bit tired with the external timber houses, but that doesn't mean it's a bad neighbourhood.
We're glad that we spent some time in a rental to get a feel for various areas and to gain a bit of local knowledge. Our first day here we were sitting in a cafe with a newspaper looking for rentals and we just asked a few locals where not to live, they were quite willing to impart their opinions, and the consesus was that for around the Hutt area not to live in Naenae, Taita, Moera & Wainuiomata & Timberlea, however, that doesn't mean people that come from those places are bad !! I've met some really nice people who live there, that was the locals opinion. Also to consider is that a place can have a bad reputation for years, despite what it is today, for those in the UK many of us perhaps wouldn't consider living in Brixton for the riots that happened many years ago, but allegedly it's a nice area now, but it still has that stigma attached to it.
Places like Tawa, Newlands, Churton Park, Johnsonville, Plimmerton & Pauatahanui (where we are just now) off SH1 all seem OK, as is Korokoro, Belmont, Kelson, Totra Park & Riverstone off SH2. Also to be careful living too close to the hills in Totra Park as the property could be a bit cold & damp from not getting the sun. Tawa is also said to be a bit damp at the bottom of the valley, but none are bad neighbourhoods. Porirua can get a bit of bad press from time to time.
The other side of Wellington, Karori, Brooklyn way seems to be pretty nice from what I hear, but we've mainly spent our time North of Wellington so don't know that area much.
It also depends on if you need schooling, which I can't comment on as my daughter is all grown up...
That's the world through our eyes... hope that helps.
Keith & Debby
I asked that same question a year or so ago..! :)
The above link will take you to the weekly crime reports for Upper Hutt so you can make an informed decision should you wish to live in that area (as we are about to)
As many have rightly said, it is all a matter of perception and where you come from. Through my eyes many of the neighbourhoods can look a bit tired with the external timber houses, but that doesn't mean it's a bad neighbourhood.
We're glad that we spent some time in a rental to get a feel for various areas and to gain a bit of local knowledge. Our first day here we were sitting in a cafe with a newspaper looking for rentals and we just asked a few locals where not to live, they were quite willing to impart their opinions, and the consesus was that for around the Hutt area not to live in Naenae, Taita, Moera & Wainuiomata & Timberlea, however, that doesn't mean people that come from those places are bad !! I've met some really nice people who live there, that was the locals opinion. Also to consider is that a place can have a bad reputation for years, despite what it is today, for those in the UK many of us perhaps wouldn't consider living in Brixton for the riots that happened many years ago, but allegedly it's a nice area now, but it still has that stigma attached to it.
Places like Tawa, Newlands, Churton Park, Johnsonville, Plimmerton & Pauatahanui (where we are just now) off SH1 all seem OK, as is Korokoro, Belmont, Kelson, Totra Park & Riverstone off SH2. Also to be careful living too close to the hills in Totra Park as the property could be a bit cold & damp from not getting the sun. Tawa is also said to be a bit damp at the bottom of the valley, but none are bad neighbourhoods. Porirua can get a bit of bad press from time to time.
The other side of Wellington, Karori, Brooklyn way seems to be pretty nice from what I hear, but we've mainly spent our time North of Wellington so don't know that area much.
It also depends on if you need schooling, which I can't comment on as my daughter is all grown up...
That's the world through our eyes... hope that helps.
Keith & Debby
stu70
19th November 2007, 03:45 AM
In fact among OECD countries NZ was recently ranked as the second most likely place for a violent crime to occur. Australia was number one.
They definitely need to lift the old restrictions and start allowing people with no criminal backgrounds to enter and live in OZ. That to most of us is discrimination. :D
They definitely need to lift the old restrictions and start allowing people with no criminal backgrounds to enter and live in OZ. That to most of us is discrimination. :D
ENZ
19th November 2007, 06:31 AM
In fact among OECD countries NZ was recently ranked as the second most likely place for a violent crime to occur. Australia was number one.
The difficulty with crime statistics is the different ways crimes are counted in different countries. New Zealand complained to the OECD a few years ago when an OECD report showed NZ had the worst youth crime in the world - all because of the way crimes are counted in New Zealand.
In most countries if a criminal assaulted someone, then kidnapped them, stole their car, raped and murdered them, the crime would be counted as one crime - a murder.
In New Zealand the crime would count as one assault, one kidnap, one car theft, one rape and one murder. In other words the same crime can look much worse when it’s fed into New Zealand’s crime statistics than it would in many overseas statistics.
The New Zealand Ministry of Justice compiled figures in 2000 comparing violent crime in New Zealand with other countries. To make it a truly like-for-like comparison, the Ministry used the crime-counting methods of the other countries. The figures that emerge from this approach show that New Zealand and Australia are the English speaking countries with the lowest violent crime rates.
Using American Crime counting methods (per 100,000 people)
New Zealand murder rate = 1.7
America murder rate = 5.5
New Zealand total violent crime = 133
America total violent crime = 506
Using Australian Crime counting methods (per 100,000 people)
New Zealand murder rate = 1.8
Australia murder rate = 1.8
New Zealand total violent crime = 1036
Australia total violent crime = 942
Using British Crime counting methods (per 100,000 people)
New Zealand total violent crime = 1204
British total violent crime = 1390
Using Canadian Crime counting methods (per 100,000 people)
New Zealand total violent crime = 551
Canadian total violent crime = 982
If we then take American methods as standard, we can produce a new table which truly compares violent crimes in English speaking countries.
Violent Crimes per 100,000 people:
Australia 121
New Zealand 133
England & Wales 153
Canada 237
United States 506
Within New Zealand itself 'high crime' areas are 2, 3 or 4 times worse for crime than the 'low crime' areas.
The difficulty with crime statistics is the different ways crimes are counted in different countries. New Zealand complained to the OECD a few years ago when an OECD report showed NZ had the worst youth crime in the world - all because of the way crimes are counted in New Zealand.
In most countries if a criminal assaulted someone, then kidnapped them, stole their car, raped and murdered them, the crime would be counted as one crime - a murder.
In New Zealand the crime would count as one assault, one kidnap, one car theft, one rape and one murder. In other words the same crime can look much worse when it’s fed into New Zealand’s crime statistics than it would in many overseas statistics.
The New Zealand Ministry of Justice compiled figures in 2000 comparing violent crime in New Zealand with other countries. To make it a truly like-for-like comparison, the Ministry used the crime-counting methods of the other countries. The figures that emerge from this approach show that New Zealand and Australia are the English speaking countries with the lowest violent crime rates.
Using American Crime counting methods (per 100,000 people)
New Zealand murder rate = 1.7
America murder rate = 5.5
New Zealand total violent crime = 133
America total violent crime = 506
Using Australian Crime counting methods (per 100,000 people)
New Zealand murder rate = 1.8
Australia murder rate = 1.8
New Zealand total violent crime = 1036
Australia total violent crime = 942
Using British Crime counting methods (per 100,000 people)
New Zealand total violent crime = 1204
British total violent crime = 1390
Using Canadian Crime counting methods (per 100,000 people)
New Zealand total violent crime = 551
Canadian total violent crime = 982
If we then take American methods as standard, we can produce a new table which truly compares violent crimes in English speaking countries.
Violent Crimes per 100,000 people:
Australia 121
New Zealand 133
England & Wales 153
Canada 237
United States 506
Within New Zealand itself 'high crime' areas are 2, 3 or 4 times worse for crime than the 'low crime' areas.
bob_the_engineer
27th November 2007, 07:02 PM
The tone of this thread seems to suggest that the more run-down / deprived areas of NZ are somehow safer than equivalent deprived areas in other parts of the world. This is a dangerous assumption. The fact is that wherever there is deprivation, there is crime - NZ is not immune. If you are a victim of crime, the brutality of it is felt just as keenly in NZ as it is in inner city London. Statistically per head of population you are just as likely to be a victim of crime in NZ as you are in the UK. NZ is not crime free. In fact among OECD countries NZ was recently ranked as the second most likely place for a violent crime to occur. Australia was number one.
We have been living in a semi-rural town outside of Auckland for just 4 months and my 17 year old son was recently mugged at knife-point on the way to work at 11am in the morning.
I’m truly sorry to hear about your son, clearly not a good experience.
Again I’m sorry, but I have to say this, I’ve lived all over the UK, I get around and I’m not easily intimated. I have that old fashioned British value of I’ll go where I like, when I like, and I wont be bullied.
I’m trying to say I’ve been around, I will walk through the so called worst neighbourhoods, and in the UK I’ve been attacked more times that I care to recall.
You post is a joke, is NZ crime free, NO can you compare it unfavourably to London LOL sanity check!
Bob
PS I do sincerely hope your son is ok
We have been living in a semi-rural town outside of Auckland for just 4 months and my 17 year old son was recently mugged at knife-point on the way to work at 11am in the morning.
I’m truly sorry to hear about your son, clearly not a good experience.
Again I’m sorry, but I have to say this, I’ve lived all over the UK, I get around and I’m not easily intimated. I have that old fashioned British value of I’ll go where I like, when I like, and I wont be bullied.
I’m trying to say I’ve been around, I will walk through the so called worst neighbourhoods, and in the UK I’ve been attacked more times that I care to recall.
You post is a joke, is NZ crime free, NO can you compare it unfavourably to London LOL sanity check!
Bob
PS I do sincerely hope your son is ok
ourquest
27th November 2007, 08:03 PM
I’m trying to say I’ve been around, I will walk through the so called worst neighbourhoods, and in the UK I’ve been attacked more times that I care to recall.
You post is a joke, is NZ crime free, NO can you compare it unfavourably to London LOL sanity check!
Hey Bob, we're all really pleased that you're tough and that, but I am not sure the point came across. I gather you don't think NZ is anything like as bad as the UK? I guess that is exactly what most emigrants will be wanting to hear.
New Zealand might well have landed second in a survey for violent crime (was South Africa in the same survey?) but let's keep our statistical sense about us and understand that statistics are easily skewed. If I turn the odometer back on my car, does that mean that my car has done less mileage? Weird analogy maybe, but if crime gets reported in detail is there more crime than where no-one confidently reports it anymore? In a crime ridden country you probably wouldn't lay a charge against someone for stealing a bicycle out of your yard, for example. Unless you wanted to claim on insurance, but that's not the point.
Let it also be known that New Zealand recently ranked in a surveyed list of countries as the second most peaceful country in the world. The uk was 49th and South Africa about 120th.
So let's contribute positively to New Zealand as emigrants. They will prefer us not to be drug users, abusers of alcohol or aggresive by nature. Live your own lives peacefully and be a positive influence.
You post is a joke, is NZ crime free, NO can you compare it unfavourably to London LOL sanity check!
Hey Bob, we're all really pleased that you're tough and that, but I am not sure the point came across. I gather you don't think NZ is anything like as bad as the UK? I guess that is exactly what most emigrants will be wanting to hear.
New Zealand might well have landed second in a survey for violent crime (was South Africa in the same survey?) but let's keep our statistical sense about us and understand that statistics are easily skewed. If I turn the odometer back on my car, does that mean that my car has done less mileage? Weird analogy maybe, but if crime gets reported in detail is there more crime than where no-one confidently reports it anymore? In a crime ridden country you probably wouldn't lay a charge against someone for stealing a bicycle out of your yard, for example. Unless you wanted to claim on insurance, but that's not the point.
Let it also be known that New Zealand recently ranked in a surveyed list of countries as the second most peaceful country in the world. The uk was 49th and South Africa about 120th.
So let's contribute positively to New Zealand as emigrants. They will prefer us not to be drug users, abusers of alcohol or aggresive by nature. Live your own lives peacefully and be a positive influence.
Piper
1st December 2007, 09:18 PM
I remember taking part in a discussion here about crime in NZ before leaving for my visit there. Be aware, I was told - always keep your eyes open (minus the rose tinted specs).
On a visit to an idyllic remote island we encountered some rude obnoxious guys who insulted my family, including our little kids and puppy. No harm done but deeply unpleasant.
The day I drove around north Christchurch was the same day and place that poor Emma Agnew was taken, a young deaf girl who was later found murdered. Rest in peace dear Emma, may your sweet soul be forever free and may your family one day find some kind of peace again in their shattered lives.
Neither of these places would be considered a bad neighbourhood, I think.
These things, from the seemingly minor to the utterly horrendous, happen anywhere in every country and I feel that the advice I was given was well placed. Nowhere is immune to crime, just use your common sense, be careful and be watchful.
On a visit to an idyllic remote island we encountered some rude obnoxious guys who insulted my family, including our little kids and puppy. No harm done but deeply unpleasant.
The day I drove around north Christchurch was the same day and place that poor Emma Agnew was taken, a young deaf girl who was later found murdered. Rest in peace dear Emma, may your sweet soul be forever free and may your family one day find some kind of peace again in their shattered lives.
Neither of these places would be considered a bad neighbourhood, I think.
These things, from the seemingly minor to the utterly horrendous, happen anywhere in every country and I feel that the advice I was given was well placed. Nowhere is immune to crime, just use your common sense, be careful and be watchful.
Sam'n'Kelv
2nd December 2007, 02:40 PM
You post is a joke, is NZ crime free, NO can you compare it unfavourably to London LOL sanity check!
Bob
PS I do sincerely hope your son is ok
I wish it were a joke.
To be fair, I don't think I ever suggested that NZ does compare to inner city London. I merely made the point that if you are a victim of crime, the effects are felt just as personally wherever you live.
Ref my son, thanks for your comments. He's fine and actually treats the whole thing with a sense of humour. The mugging could have happened any where in the world. The point I was making was that it happened in New Zealand. The only reason I made the point was because I think it dangerous for people to receive a warped view of NZ - whether rose-tinted or unnecessarily black. Lots of people have subsequently posted to highlight the need to be watchful wherever you live. Sound advice.
Bob
PS I do sincerely hope your son is ok
I wish it were a joke.
To be fair, I don't think I ever suggested that NZ does compare to inner city London. I merely made the point that if you are a victim of crime, the effects are felt just as personally wherever you live.
Ref my son, thanks for your comments. He's fine and actually treats the whole thing with a sense of humour. The mugging could have happened any where in the world. The point I was making was that it happened in New Zealand. The only reason I made the point was because I think it dangerous for people to receive a warped view of NZ - whether rose-tinted or unnecessarily black. Lots of people have subsequently posted to highlight the need to be watchful wherever you live. Sound advice.
boatieman
2nd December 2007, 08:01 PM
Hi,
I live in crime free, wealthy Tauranga.
One area to avoid is Merivale Road. There is a mongrel mob house on one corner, The other end of the street has a black power house, there is a white supremacy house and a skinhead house in the same street.
Looks like lower to very lower income sort of suburb. Everyone knows what,s there and everyone avoids it.
Lets all not go down the strand!
The strand is a road by the harbour and has bars and restaurants. Recently, a couple of jolly bashings, got out of hand leading to just a couple of fatal stabbings. There's usually a bashing or several, about midnight either friday or Sat night, sometimes both. The police station is 500M down the road.
Tauranga city council, is about to install cctv to try and deter the perpetrators of a spate of muggings that have taken place around the bus station.
One of kiwi friends, who lives in a middle income area of papamoa,(rapidly becoming known as pommie-moa. Had his pajero, 4x4, broken into. Not for the first time. He is an ex-police inspector. He did'nt bother to tell local police as they are too busy.
As regards wealth, did you know that this is nicknamed "ten Dollar Tauranga".
We've been looking for the wealthy part of town, maybe it's called brigadoon, and will appear in 100 years time.
Maybe I'm in a parallel universe, the bad one!
So as regards Nz being crime free.
I suggest that everyone goes to Napier, as its just perfectly crime free according to bob the engineer.
Regards
I live in crime free, wealthy Tauranga.
One area to avoid is Merivale Road. There is a mongrel mob house on one corner, The other end of the street has a black power house, there is a white supremacy house and a skinhead house in the same street.
Looks like lower to very lower income sort of suburb. Everyone knows what,s there and everyone avoids it.
Lets all not go down the strand!
The strand is a road by the harbour and has bars and restaurants. Recently, a couple of jolly bashings, got out of hand leading to just a couple of fatal stabbings. There's usually a bashing or several, about midnight either friday or Sat night, sometimes both. The police station is 500M down the road.
Tauranga city council, is about to install cctv to try and deter the perpetrators of a spate of muggings that have taken place around the bus station.
One of kiwi friends, who lives in a middle income area of papamoa,(rapidly becoming known as pommie-moa. Had his pajero, 4x4, broken into. Not for the first time. He is an ex-police inspector. He did'nt bother to tell local police as they are too busy.
As regards wealth, did you know that this is nicknamed "ten Dollar Tauranga".
We've been looking for the wealthy part of town, maybe it's called brigadoon, and will appear in 100 years time.
Maybe I'm in a parallel universe, the bad one!
So as regards Nz being crime free.
I suggest that everyone goes to Napier, as its just perfectly crime free according to bob the engineer.
Regards
boatieman
2nd December 2007, 08:03 PM
Hi,
I live in crime free, wealthy Tauranga.
One area to avoid is Merivale Road. There is a mongrel mob house on one corner, The other end of the street has a black power house, there is a white supremacy house and a skinhead house in the same street.
Looks like lower to very lower income sort of suburb. Everyone knows what's there and everyone avoids it.
Lets all not go down the strand!
The strand is a road by the harbour and has bars and restaurants. Recently, a couple of jolly bashings, got out of hand leading to just a couple of fatal stabbings. There's usually a bashing or several, about midnight either friday or Sat night, sometimes both. The police station is 500M down the road.
Tauranga city council, is about to install cctv to try and deter the perpetrators of a spate of muggings that have taken place around the bus station.
One of kiwi friends, who lives in a middle income area of papamoa,(rapidly becoming known as pommie-moa. Had his pajero, 4x4, broken into. Not for the first time. He is an ex-police inspector. He did'nt bother to tell local police as they are too busy.
As regards wealth, did you know that this is nicknamed "ten Dollar Tauranga".
We've been looking for the wealthy part of town, maybe it's called brigadoon, and will appear in 100 years time.
Maybe I'm in a parallel universe, the bad one! Maybe its because I observe and read the NZ Herald and the Bay of Plenty Times.
So as regards Nz being crime free.
I suggest that everyone goes to Napier, as its just perfectly crime free according to bob the engineer.
Regards
I live in crime free, wealthy Tauranga.
One area to avoid is Merivale Road. There is a mongrel mob house on one corner, The other end of the street has a black power house, there is a white supremacy house and a skinhead house in the same street.
Looks like lower to very lower income sort of suburb. Everyone knows what's there and everyone avoids it.
Lets all not go down the strand!
The strand is a road by the harbour and has bars and restaurants. Recently, a couple of jolly bashings, got out of hand leading to just a couple of fatal stabbings. There's usually a bashing or several, about midnight either friday or Sat night, sometimes both. The police station is 500M down the road.
Tauranga city council, is about to install cctv to try and deter the perpetrators of a spate of muggings that have taken place around the bus station.
One of kiwi friends, who lives in a middle income area of papamoa,(rapidly becoming known as pommie-moa. Had his pajero, 4x4, broken into. Not for the first time. He is an ex-police inspector. He did'nt bother to tell local police as they are too busy.
As regards wealth, did you know that this is nicknamed "ten Dollar Tauranga".
We've been looking for the wealthy part of town, maybe it's called brigadoon, and will appear in 100 years time.
Maybe I'm in a parallel universe, the bad one! Maybe its because I observe and read the NZ Herald and the Bay of Plenty Times.
So as regards Nz being crime free.
I suggest that everyone goes to Napier, as its just perfectly crime free according to bob the engineer.
Regards
boatieman
2nd December 2007, 08:27 PM
see what I mean by parallel universe... sorry for the unintentional double post
stu70
3rd December 2007, 01:37 AM
Hi,
I live in crime free, wealthy Tauranga.
One area to avoid is Merivale Road. There is a mongrel mob house on one corner, The other end of the street has a black power house, there is a white supremacy house and a skinhead house in the same street.
Looks like lower to very lower income sort of suburb. Everyone knows what's there and everyone avoids it.
Lets all not go down the strand!
The strand is a road by the harbour and has bars and restaurants. Recently, a couple of jolly bashings, got out of hand leading to just a couple of fatal stabbings. There's usually a bashing or several, about midnight either friday or Sat night, sometimes both. The police station is 500M down the road.
Tauranga city council, is about to install cctv to try and deter the perpetrators of a spate of muggings that have taken place around the bus station.
One of kiwi friends, who lives in a middle income area of papamoa,(rapidly becoming known as pommie-moa. Had his pajero, 4x4, broken into. Not for the first time. He is an ex-police inspector. He did'nt bother to tell local police as they are too busy.
As regards wealth, did you know that this is nicknamed "ten Dollar Tauranga".
We've been looking for the wealthy part of town, maybe it's called brigadoon, and will appear in 100 years time.
Maybe I'm in a parallel universe, the bad one! Maybe its because I observe and read the NZ Herald and the Bay of Plenty Times.
So as regards Nz being crime free.
I suggest that everyone goes to Napier, as its just perfectly crime free according to bob the engineer.
Regards
Yikes! That sounds terrible, thanks for the post boatieman.
I live in crime free, wealthy Tauranga.
One area to avoid is Merivale Road. There is a mongrel mob house on one corner, The other end of the street has a black power house, there is a white supremacy house and a skinhead house in the same street.
Looks like lower to very lower income sort of suburb. Everyone knows what's there and everyone avoids it.
Lets all not go down the strand!
The strand is a road by the harbour and has bars and restaurants. Recently, a couple of jolly bashings, got out of hand leading to just a couple of fatal stabbings. There's usually a bashing or several, about midnight either friday or Sat night, sometimes both. The police station is 500M down the road.
Tauranga city council, is about to install cctv to try and deter the perpetrators of a spate of muggings that have taken place around the bus station.
One of kiwi friends, who lives in a middle income area of papamoa,(rapidly becoming known as pommie-moa. Had his pajero, 4x4, broken into. Not for the first time. He is an ex-police inspector. He did'nt bother to tell local police as they are too busy.
As regards wealth, did you know that this is nicknamed "ten Dollar Tauranga".
We've been looking for the wealthy part of town, maybe it's called brigadoon, and will appear in 100 years time.
Maybe I'm in a parallel universe, the bad one! Maybe its because I observe and read the NZ Herald and the Bay of Plenty Times.
So as regards Nz being crime free.
I suggest that everyone goes to Napier, as its just perfectly crime free according to bob the engineer.
Regards
Yikes! That sounds terrible, thanks for the post boatieman.
kowhai
18th January 2008, 03:22 PM
"there is a white supremacy house and a skinhead house in the same street.
there's usually a bashing or several, about midnight either Friday or Sat night, sometimes both.
We've been looking for the wealthy part of town, maybe it's called brigadoon, and will appear in 100 years time.
Maybe I'm in a parallel universe, the bad one!"
As a New Zealander who just happens to know this location intimately, I simply cannot ignore this tripe.What utter nonsense you spout. I have NEVER seen a white supremacist in Tauranga - maybe thats because I honestly don't know what one looks like. A really pale and sickly individual perhaps who thinks hes a bit of a dude ? Skinheads? Yes I must admit I have met a few bald headed blokes in Tauranga - whats wrong with being bald ???
The last bashing I heard of in The Strand was a fight between a group of Brazilian tourists !
Let me assure you ... there are some VERY nice homes - often in understated streets and discreetly tucked away. Tauranga is indeed a very wealthy city. ( by NZ standards I must add )
Am not saying Taurangas perfect but IMHO its pretty darn close.
there's usually a bashing or several, about midnight either Friday or Sat night, sometimes both.
We've been looking for the wealthy part of town, maybe it's called brigadoon, and will appear in 100 years time.
Maybe I'm in a parallel universe, the bad one!"
As a New Zealander who just happens to know this location intimately, I simply cannot ignore this tripe.What utter nonsense you spout. I have NEVER seen a white supremacist in Tauranga - maybe thats because I honestly don't know what one looks like. A really pale and sickly individual perhaps who thinks hes a bit of a dude ? Skinheads? Yes I must admit I have met a few bald headed blokes in Tauranga - whats wrong with being bald ???
The last bashing I heard of in The Strand was a fight between a group of Brazilian tourists !
Let me assure you ... there are some VERY nice homes - often in understated streets and discreetly tucked away. Tauranga is indeed a very wealthy city. ( by NZ standards I must add )
Am not saying Taurangas perfect but IMHO its pretty darn close.
Moorf
18th January 2008, 04:41 PM
Now... this is what I've been trying to get my head round for ages. :confused:
So many people see places in such very different ways - one person sees violence and baddies, another sees none of this, even disputes it.
This is exactly what is causing such disparity between immigrants and I, personally, have been amazed at just how differently people here view their lives/environment.
PS - I know nothing of Tauranga - but I have lived in, and know people who have lived in "bad" areas of Chch and it really has been like living in parallel universes - one person's description bears no resemblance to anothers!
Ho-hum.. just thinking out loud with my first Pinot of the evening....
So many people see places in such very different ways - one person sees violence and baddies, another sees none of this, even disputes it.
This is exactly what is causing such disparity between immigrants and I, personally, have been amazed at just how differently people here view their lives/environment.
PS - I know nothing of Tauranga - but I have lived in, and know people who have lived in "bad" areas of Chch and it really has been like living in parallel universes - one person's description bears no resemblance to anothers!
Ho-hum.. just thinking out loud with my first Pinot of the evening....
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