Car Seats, Planes & Heathrow Booster
Tia Maria
2nd November 2007, 01:36 PM
We have booked a seat for our not so little 1 year old, on our flight back to the UK. So we will need to use our car seat, its a Britax, similar to this:
www.mothercare.com/gp/product/B000ILIPOY/sr=1-3/qid=1193959525/ref=sr_1_3/026-6356305-1480463?ie=UTF8&m=A2LBKNDJ2KZUGQ&n=44452031&mcb=core
We've always had the youngest kids on our lap before and never used this option so I just wondered if their were any problems using car seats on planes?
Also we are flying Air Singapore and so far the people I've contacted haven't been able to tell us if there is a size issue with car seats in airplane seats. Although one person helpfully said 'you can ask them when you check in', I politely pointed out that might be a tad too late to find out it didn't fit! :(
Also, our car hire company only supplies car seats for 'up to age 5' and doesn't do booster seats. Is there anywhere at Heathrow we can get a booster seat for our 6 year old. I'd rather buy a new one for £10-£15 when we get to the UK than loose the luggage space bringing ours with us.
Oh the joys of travelling with children!
Cheers
Tia
jubjub
2nd November 2007, 01:46 PM
I knew I had seen it somewhere.... (scroll to bottom of page....)
http://www.airnz.co.nz/travelinfo/travelsupport/travelling_with_infants_and.htm#seatingforchildren
Now assuming all airline seats are the same, then these measurements should apply equally to Singapore Airlines....
jackie m
2nd November 2007, 02:16 PM
Tia
We had this problem on the way over (we flew singapore airlines), you can have them on the plane or they will put them in the hold no charge or extra baggage. We were going to have them both on the plane till the check in guy said its along way for them to go sitting in one, if they are just in the plane seat they have more room to move around & putting the arms up gave them more room (some of which was ours:uhoh ) Hope this makes sense
Jackie
ps try Boots when you land for a booster seat
Chiba
2nd November 2007, 02:43 PM
IMHO you really don't want a car seat on a plane. Total PITA to set up, take up loads of room, uncomfortable for more than a few hours, jam you in the elbows, etc. Not that I've ever done it, but I've seen people with them. Better off just letting junior catch some Z's in a regular seat. A one year old can easily fit into even in an economy class seat. As a six footer, oh how I've envied our two kids as they've curled up and dropped off, while I've sat there wondering whether Homo Aeroplanus will evolve to have more joints in their legs...
Caroline and Dave
2nd November 2007, 04:23 PM
Hi Tia,
When I came over recently with Singapore Air, there were 4 families with very young kids all of whom had child car seats and the air hostesses were able to secure them all to the seats.
A bit is mentioned here about it
https://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/before/plan/specialneeds.jsp#Header5
Scroll down and you will find it.
Hope this helps
Dave and Caroline
sizzlingbadger
2nd November 2007, 08:17 PM
I would put it in the hold, shouldn't count as extra baggage but double check with SIA. We took all three high back boosters down to Chch on top of our luggage allowance twice now with Air NZ and they don't bat an eyelid.
If you don't have a car seat for your child on take off and landing you will have to have them on you lap as they're under two. With Virgin Atlantic they supplied they're own booster seat, it was brilliant and meant for take off and landing our 13mth could sit on his own. Not sure if Singapore Air have anything like this.
Tia Maria
2nd November 2007, 10:35 PM
Thanks everyone, much better informed than the Singapore Air staff!
We're still not sure whether to have a car seat on the plane or not. If he was a mellow baby, not having it would be fine but he has the dangerous combination of not only being strong willed but also strong. Hence, the thought of having to restrain him for any longer than take off and landing is quite exhausting. Now if the airplane seat had a 5 point harness there wouldn't be a problem!
Perhaps I should be asking if anyone has had a good experience of using a car seat on a plane?!
Our booster seat is just one of the small ones and I assumed they only put larger objects in the hold but maybe they would be OK.
Cheers
Tia
Tia Maria
11th November 2007, 09:43 PM
Still, can't work out if our car seat will fit, anyone tried to use a car seat with Singapore Air only to discover it doesn't fit?
Cheers
Tia
extinctkiwi
12th November 2007, 05:40 AM
Hi
we are planning on doing the same for our 5 month old baby in january. We pla to fly with air nz and they have the max sizes on the website in the flying with infants section of the website so would imagine they are quite simliar seats to singapore airlines? Maybe measure the car seat up against those and if it wont fit for air nz then you may have a problem and ask for the relevant figures from singapore airlines they may be able to look into it for you.
Heres the figures for Air New Zealand:
For a rearfacing seat for those under 9 kg the max width is 43cm and the max height is 48 cm
for a forward facing seat the maximum width is 43cm and max width 65cm
These dimensions apply to B747, B777, B767, B737 and A320 aircraft
Tia Maria
12th November 2007, 10:26 AM
Thanks,
Yes I'd seen those dimensions but they seem very restrictive, we have 2 forward facing car seats and a friend has another and none of them would comply with that width. That's why I wondered if anyone had found a make that would or wouldn't fit.
I have a vague memory of seeing a Britax car seat similar to ours on the plane last time I flew but obviously didn't go up and have a proper look.
We've asked several people at Air Singapore but they always suggest we ask someone else, as they never know! Life would be a lot simpler if they just let us hire an airline approved one.
I guess we'll just go and see, it probably depends on the day, who you speak to and how helpful they are feeling.
I thought this was an interesting idea:
www.amazon.com/Traveling-Toddler-Attach-Rolling-Carry/dp/B000JHN3AS
www.hammacher.com/publish/67232.asp
Might consider this on the way back if the car seat is too big (our sone is 15 months):
www.kidsflysafe.com/index.php
This USA site has got some flying products and tips:
www.flyingwithkids.com/
Car seat thread:
www.travelwithyourkids.com/on-the-plane/should-you-use-a-car-seat-on-the-plane
Cheers
Ti
jubjub
12th November 2007, 10:32 AM
Tia, if its the harness thats the main thing to keep monkey stil;, how about old fashioned reigns and thread the airline seat belt through them?
You can get those travel car seat things here too, http://www.stork-to-chalk.co.nz/thepod.html hadnt thought of that for you, they look a great idea
extinctkiwi
12th November 2007, 11:57 AM
Hi
My mum has just bought a new car seat and it looks good, very easy to use so i will measure it and let you know! I may have to go to the shops and measure up a few as i was going to buy a new one for the journey. I will let you know how i get on and if i find one that fits.
I agree that we shouldnt have to be worrying about this. If you are sold a seat they should provide the car seat it is not like we havent paid enough! If you get car hire they provide a car seat suitable for the car so whats the difference.
They really make travelling with kids hard. I have just booked my flights with air NZ after doing alot of research about bassinets to be told we wont be automatically allocated one. I went back on the site and it does say you are pre-allocated one if the baby is under 8 months so rang again to check and we were allocated one then. You shouldnt be having to chase around when you have just spent £2040 for three one way seats! They could at least have a list of seats which fit.
rant over. Good luck and if i find one that fits i will post it on the forum.
Tia Maria
12th November 2007, 12:17 PM
Jub Jub - you star! I'll borrow some off a friend and then it can act as a back up.
I notice they don't give dimensions for that stroller car seat, wonder if it fits?
good luck with your flight in January. I did a flight earlier in the year with just me and the baby, if you do a search for 'bassinet' it should bring up quite a few posts about people's experiences of using one, plus some good tips.
We fly on weds, so too late for us to get a new seat anyway. I seem to remember seeing something about a car seat, especially designed for flying, that folded up into a piece of hand luggage - can't find the link now.
Cheers
Tia
Tia Maria
12th November 2007, 10:29 PM
Loads of info here:
http://parents.berkeley.edu/recommend/where2buy/carseats/travel.html
Pity I won't have time to read it before we go! :roll
Cheers
Tia
hoffenberg
12th November 2007, 10:51 PM
we are also taking a baby seat with us as our daughter will only be under 1 years old when we leave for new zealand
Familyofmonkeys
13th November 2007, 02:12 PM
Tia, if its the harness thats the main thing to keep monkey stil;, how about old fashioned reigns and thread the airline seat belt through them?
We flew Singapore Airlines and had straps round our 2 year old...they made us take them off for take-off and landing as against their Health & Safety regs :( ....apparently they cannot be released quickly in an 'event'. They also made me take off papouse for baby....again due to regs. They reckon it is safer for tiny baby to be strapped to your knee in one of those loose kids belts that in papouse...even though baby was tiny and not supporting own head properly.
extinctkiwi
17th November 2007, 09:07 AM
Ok
I have looked into this in detail and took a trip to Manchester to go to a big mothercare to measure all the seats.
The ones i think will be ok for use in a plane seat are the Bebe Confort Iseos safe side and Britax First Class SI and Britax First Class SI Ultra (the ultra is the same seat with different fabric).
The Britax is forward and rear facing and measures 43 cm wide if you squash the fabric in a bit, so will fit into an air new zealand seat. It has a thread for the lap belt round the base of the seat so would secure with a airplane lap belt. Is is supposed to be used with a car seat belt with a diagonal strap too (3 point) but the diagonal belt only hooks on the back of the back rest so it makes not that much difference. Some of the seats don't threat the lap belt round the base so they wouldn't have been secure with only a plane lap belt. This seat is up to regs ECE 44-04 which is the newest of the European Standards.
The Bebe Confort Iseos is made in a combination seat (birth to 4) and a forward only seat for babies over 9kg. The combination version is only up to ECE 44-03 which is not the newest regs but ok for the plane as Air New Zealand only specify ECE 44. The seat can still be used it in the car it is just not the latest regs but acceptable for use in the UK.
However, the forward facing Iseos seat is up to ECE44-04 so this would be better as a new standard , but only if your baby is over 9kg.
The Bebe Comfort Iseos is particularly good because it has sides which expand and retract, so at check in you can retract it to 40cm width which is well under and then expand it on the plane as much as possible for the seat you are in. This feature is the same for the Iseos combination and forward only seat.
The Britax First Class SI is more padded than the Iseos hence the need to squash the fabric in 1/2 cm to make it 43 cm but the plane seat would do this anyway and the padding will reduce when it has been used by the baby in the car for a while anyway. It is 43cm if you remove the side padding. There are many other comments on the forum from people saying they have seen people with a Britax on the plane and it was ok. This is the smallest Britax i have seen so i assume it will be fine.
I have chosen to my the Britax First Class SI as it is a bit more padded for the baby as she is under 9 kg and small. If she was bigger i would have gone for the Bebe Confort Iseos forward facing seat as the seat looks better, the fabric looks easier to clean and the adjustable sides are just a great idea and would fit any plane seat as you can just adjust it to fit.
The bebe confort iseos also fits with a lap belt that thread round the base and would be secure in my opinion on the plane but it is designed to be used in a car with a normal car seat belt using the diagonal bit too.
The only other seat i could see that would fit was the maxi cost tobi but it looked like it wouldn't secure with a lap belt in my opinion, as it does not thread the lap belt through the base like the others above. However, if you already have this seat it measured up ok so you could use it when the seat belt sign is off and strap the baby on you knee for take off and landing to save buying a new seat. Personally, i prefer to buy one which is buckled in to as great an extent as possible with a lap belt.
There is only one seat which is specifically designed to fit with a lap belt and it is a Britiax but was too large for air new zealand so i have not written about it and is a 9kg plus seat, so no good if like me baby is under 9kg.
hope this helps. This is my findings only. My advice is have a look at these seats and decide if they suit your needs, at least the measuring part is done for you! I would also check all this with your carrier to be sure. I am going to ring when my seat arrives and i have had a good look at it to double check the requirements. Air New Zealand do not mention about the type of seat belt the seat needs to be approved to use on their website. The only requirements seem to be for width and height and that it meets ECE 44 which the Britax First Class SI and the Bebe Confort Iseos do. NB Bebe Confort Iseos safe side combination seat only ECE 44 - 03 so if you want that one check thats ok with the airline.
The following seats are too big (over 43cm width):
concord ultimax
mamas and papas pro-logic
graco junior
graco junior mini
plus loads of other just cant remember what they were called. I was in Mothercare for 2 hours measuring. PS they dont have a clue in there it was like talking to a robot. No name tags, no prices, no idea....... computer says no!!!
One other hint, the car seats use up some of the luggage allowance on air new zealand so if this is important for you the Britax First class SI is lighter than the Bebe Confort Iseos. Remember you are going to have to carry it round the airport.
Jo Jo
17th November 2007, 10:59 AM
What an informative post. My sister is bringing her baby to visit me next year, so I shall send this info to her. Thanks!
Tia Maria
7th February 2008, 01:40 PM
I've been meaning to give an update on this:
OK our car seat did fit in the seats despite its dimensions being too big according to the website, although we did wedge a pillow under it to make it less rocky. :clap They basically agreed to let us try it on the plane with the understanding that it would be checked into the hold with the buggy if it was too big (I had reins as a back up!).
However, they did check it several times for an 'airplane approved sticker', I know they have these on some car seats in the USA but not sure about the UK. It didn't have one but they let us on anyway as it was obviously safer for him to sit in a 5 point harness car seat than directly on the seat with a lab belt.
One stewardess at the gate (Auckland airport) complained that it was a car seat and not an 'airplane seat' (ie with the sticker) and she was going to refuse to let us use it, but her colleagues convinced her otherwise. I wouldn't mind so much but it is near impossible to find out which car seats are approved and fit and then you are just at the mercy of the people on the day.
The car seat was considered part of our carry on allowance, so in other words it was the baby's hand luggage. And despite checking-in very early we didn't always get bulk head seats :( . The reason for this is because the car seat needs to go in a window seat (for safety) and there are only a few bulk head window seats.
So in summary if you are paying for a seat for your baby and using a car seat with it, then:
1) If buying a new car seat, look for an 'airplane approved' sticker
2) Reserve your seats in advance by phone, make sure they are window bulk head seats as the air stewardess will move you.
3) If you are willing to risk it, some car seats that are bigger than the online dimensions do fit. However, be prepared for if they don't!
4) Send OH ahead to fix car seat in before you walk on with the baby, it can be a bit of a fiddle and take a little while - I just walked slowly down the ramp
Another tactic I found that worked, was to arrive quite late at the gate with a screaming baby, then they let you get away with almost anything! :D
Cheers
Tia
mgbridges
7th February 2008, 09:18 PM
[QUOTE I notice they don't give dimensions for that stroller car seat, wonder if it fits? [/QUOTE]
We saw somebody checking in with Emirates at Auckland airport with one of these and they looked like seasoned travellers so I rather assumed it would fit on the airplane. Whether it does or not I thought it was a pretty nifty idea.
Anneliese
mikewalkerfrom
7th February 2008, 10:26 PM
Brilliant post. Our Daughter will be 14 months when we fly and both our car seats are the Britax seats you mention (although our son wont need his on the plane as he's almost 3).
Now, if we could find out how to get an airplane sticker to avoid the grumpy stewardess we'll be set!
Mike
talisker
7th February 2008, 10:56 PM
We've had some success with car seats on planes. The main thing is to get the right seats - the maximum width restriction rules out the majority of car seats on the market. You may be able to get a wider one to fit, but the problem is you can't guarantee it, so it's quite risky. Also, if you happen to be in the bulkhead row (maybe because you've got a younger kid in the bassinet), the armrests are usually fixed and it's even harder to fit a seat in. We did find suitably narrow seats, but we had to trawl round loads of shops with a tape measure. It was Kmart where we eventually found some. I can't remember the make, it's not one I'd heard of. It tends to be the cheaper, less luxurious looking ones that fit the bill.
The sticker thing is another problem - some check in staff and cabin crew will insist on it saying Approved for Aircraft use. The seats we found did have this embossed onto the plastic, but most don't.
mikewalkerfrom
7th February 2008, 11:29 PM
I just spoke to Britax about trying to get an airline sticker for our car seats (Britax First Class SI and Britax First Class SI Ultra) and apparently they are not for airline use as they cannot be fitted with just a lap belt.
So I guess you can try and take it on board and see if you can get away with it. We know they'll fit, but if you get a pedantic cabin crew you could be in trouble.
Can anyone let me know if you have actually flown with this type of car seat, and with what airline?
Cheers
Mike
irishliz
19th February 2008, 09:28 PM
We flew with a Britax Renaissance on Singapore Airlines in October, no airplane stickers, and nobody batted an eyelid. Didn't even know there was an issue and didn't stress. We actually couldn't undo it in Singapore and the helpful air steward did it in a jiffy - obviously seasoned. Although fiddly, we found it very helpful on the flight as once baby was asleep, we knew she was attached safely and comfortably. We also managed to use it for the very tired three year old as well.
mikewalkerfrom
19th February 2008, 09:53 PM
Thanks irishliz.
The Britax Renaissance is officially ok (see link below). We have the "First Class" seats which are officially not ok. I'm going to head to Halfords or Mothercare and see if there's much of a size difference. I think we'll take it on board anyway. If they kick up a fuss (which from what I gather is unlikely), they can stick it in the hold (the seat that is :) ).
http://www.britax.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=68
Jo Jo
5th March 2008, 06:10 PM
My sister has just flown from the UK to NZ on Air NZ, and used a Britax Eclipse SI on the plane for the baby.
Bruckner
5th March 2008, 07:57 PM
Thought I'd put my two cents in. We flew from NYC -> LAX -> AKL with the Britax Marathon.
Emily
sizzlingbadger
6th March 2008, 07:55 AM
If you fly with Virgin they can supply you with a booster seat which is great. It's what my 14 month used on the first leg of the journey out to Hong Kong. Second leg no booster and he had to sit on me for take off and landing but because he was so small he curled up on the seat and fell asleep before laying on the floor ! ! ! ! The cabin crew were surprised we weren't offered a cot because he would have fit in one easily at the time :exit :o
Using car seats surely they would get in the way of elbow room ? ? and restrict the child too much. Ours could move around freely and get comfortable in any position with a car seat it would have been a nightmare.
nippa&pippa
6th March 2008, 03:25 PM
Do anyone know about the rule of using car seat in cabin, especially Britax Renaissance that I have which I will have to take it with me anyway, in the Air NZ domestic flight? (from chch to akl and back a week later)
Janey
12th March 2008, 03:57 AM
Hi
we are coming out in May does a 7 yr old need a booster seat in cars in NZ?
nippa&pippa
12th March 2008, 12:17 PM
Hi
we are coming out in May does a 7 yr old need a booster seat in cars in NZ?
I have heard on news that it is car seat check week (http://www.plunket.org.nz/Content/NavigationMenu/About/Media/2008MediaReleases/MR82/default.htm) this week, and police and plunkets are trying to get all under 9 years old to be in booster seat...so maybe yes
Tia Maria
13th March 2008, 03:20 PM
We use a booster for our 7 year old although plenty of other parents don't. I guess we had it drummed into us in the UK and it certainly doesn't seem like the roads are any safer in NZ, so I take the view of doing what's right for my child rather than what is required by the law.
Cheers
Tia
extinctkiwi
4th April 2008, 11:25 PM
Re Britax First Class SI Car Seat (see earlier post)
We did fly in the end with the britax first class si (air NZ) and it was fine. They did not check the seat in anyway which annoyed me after all the hassle of getting it but it fitted well and the stewardess fitted the lap belt for us.
You are right that there is only 1 seat that is actually designed to only use a lap belt and therefore is exactly right for a plane but we did not like it at all when we looked in the shops. I also think the seat in question (cant remember the make) was too big on the dimensions.
The rules re car seats and planes do not say the seat has to be specifically for plane use (ie lap belt only) just that it fits the dimensions and is the correct regulation.
The Britax First Class Si with the way the belt threads through at the back under the bottom of the seat was very secure in the plane seat and i felt comfortable with it. The stewardess was well aware of how to fit the belt on the seats when they only have a lap belt. Takes a bit of doing to get them in due to lack of arm room but once its all done it is secure.
I would recommend the Britax First Calss SI - the seat and the baby were fine on the flight, she seemed very happy in there. In fact not a peep the entire flight. It was also much easier to feed her sat in the seat. We changed her round a lot between having a cuddles with us, to sitting in the chair with a book and then once she was sleeping we put her in the skycot.
It was an enjoyable flight and it was not the nightmare i had imagined and we flew via LA with just the 2 hour stop.
Only problems to watch out for when flying with an infant:
-they said they had evian water on board to make the bottles (this is ok for babys straight from the bottle after 4 months). They did not have evian. You can buy evian in the terminal at healthrow from boots so i would buy some before you set off just in case.
- we ordered a infant meal for the baby on the plane. This should have been provided several times throughout the flight at meal times. They had not done the infant meal and again if i had not bought spare food at boots as a precaution she would have not had have any food for 24 hours. Def buy food at boots before you set off, its not worth the risk of not having anything. They did have some jars of food which were for emergencies but still dont risk it.
- the walk from the shop area in heathrow to the air NZ gate is really far when you have a baby, 3 hand luggages, 3 bags of water and baby food and a car seat. They gave us no pre-boarding get to the gate announcement just said boarding so we were running with all the get up and it must be a mile or 2 - it seemed really really far! Once you get the baby food from boots get up there asap to save the stress of a big run.
- they do not let water through secruity even though the govt in the Uk say water for a baby is OK. It was to be milk and you have to test it (so cartons have to be emptied which is no good as it will go off). They also would not let juice through. Take powder and then buy evian in the terminal to mix it up with as this is ok if the baby is over 4 months. If it is under 4 months buy cartons from boots instead (once in the terminal). You have to take everything off the plane at LA when you go into the transit lounge but do not have to do xrays etc again so the water will be ok to come off the plane.
Good luck anyone traveling with a baby - i am sure it will be fine if you plan ahead.
nippa&pippa
5th April 2008, 12:29 AM
- we ordered a infant meal for the baby on the plane. This should have been provided several times throughout the flight at meal times. They had not done the infant meal and again if i had not bought spare food at boots as a precaution she would have not had have any food for 24 hours. Def buy food at boots before you set off, its not worth the risk of not having anything. They did have some jars of food which were for emergencies but still dont risk it.
Baby food jars is better ideal to buy at heathrow after you have been to custom, rather before arrive airport like I did, to save lots of hassles at custom. My OH end up had to taste every jars at custom after they won't let have jars with us but we explained that our daughter got food allergies because airline won't provide our daughter's foods, in the end they did let us have it but oddly, the airline will prepared to provide my OH and our son's foods with special requirements :confused: but airline did failed to provide allergy-free foods anyway for whole flights due to "communication problems" between airline HQ and airline's catering:roll
I am going up to auckland soon and have email to Air NZ about having car seat in the cabin of domestic flights. They have replied back, yes I can but I am not sure if they are going to help me carry the car seat to the plane for me because I will be carry 7 months old baby, holding 26months old toddler and changing bag :o I will let you know how it goes!!
extinctkiwi
5th April 2008, 09:41 AM
Sophia
When we did the long walk to the gate and were really struggling there were these carts with seats parked along the side. No one was in them so we asked the driver if we could get a lift to the gate. She said no but that you can prebook them if you have kids or are disabled - ie if there is a good reason as to why you will struggle to get to the gate. (those things that famous people get driven away in - a bit like a golf cart)
I would contact the airport customer service and look into how to book one. It is a real struggle to get there with the car seats, babys, hand luggage, the tons of food you have bought from boots in the terminal shops etc.
Worth a go?
Anyone who has booked one it would be great to have some more info.
thanks
extinctkiwi
5th April 2008, 09:58 AM
I am becoming a postaholic!
Just to clarify re the baby food and baby milk (formula) - you must buy it all when you have gone through security for the last time before takeoff.
So if you are flying from somewhere else ie Manchester to Heathrow dont buy the baby food in Manchester as you will loose it at heathrow security.
You must buy the baby food, water, cartons of milk etc after the last set of security checks - ie at the heathrow boots in the shops after security.
If you have any children with dietary issues then contact boots prior to getting to the airport to arrange for them to get the food in and have it ready for you. We did this when we flew to Jamaica from Manchester. We contacted boots in the terminal explained about the baby food issues and they offered to order it in and have it ready for us. We just had to ring back a week before the flight to confirm what we needed. They were very helpful, I am sure heathrow boots would be able to do the same if there were specific dietary needs?
If they do not have dietary needs boot in heathrow stocked a wide range of cartons of ready made formula or you can get evian which is suitable for mixing with powdered formula after the baby is 4 months old. They also sold a good range of baby food jars, both meals and desserts. They also had baby juices and flavored water. I cant see any need to order it in if there are no special needs as they had plenty.
Tia Maria
5th April 2008, 01:09 PM
You can take sealed sachets of baby milk (the individual portions) through security, and sealed boxes of baby cereal through. (Its liquid and gels they have a problem with). You can then ask the air hostess to provide you with hot or boiled water on the plane to mix it up. Just allow enough time for it to cool down.
I found the flavoured cereal I got from Sainsburys a godsend as I could just mix up as much as I needed when I needed it, but do try the babies on it first to check they like it, as some might be use to it mixed with milk rather than water.
As for the 'golf carts' I wasn't allowed to ride on with a baby, due to safety issues. So I think there may be age restrictions although I'm sure it varies depending on where you go or who you get on the day.
Sophie - if you are traveling on your own, have you considered a MAAS? (Meet and Assist). They will help you get to the gate and you get to skip lots of queues. They definitely do it on International flights, not sure about domestic ones, might be worth an email to find out.
Cheers
Tia
urban78
5th April 2008, 02:01 PM
I would contact the airport customer service and look into how to book one. It is a real struggle to get there with the car seats, babys, hand luggage, the tons of food you have bought from boots in the terminal shops etc.
Just a heads up on this...Airport customer services will rarely provide the extra help unless it has been booked prior with the airline, like a Meet and Assist (like Tia mentioned). So if you want the extra help, book it with the relevant airline first and double check again a few days before you travel :nice1
Jen
nippa&pippa
5th April 2008, 02:19 PM
Thannks guys, I will ask about "meet and assist" unless I am already have it that are cover under "disability assistance", do anyone know about disability's side of it, what i will expect they will do for me as deaf passenger?
urban78
5th April 2008, 02:27 PM
Thannks guys, I will ask about "meet and assist" unless I am already have it that are cover under "disability assistance", do anyone know about disability's side of it, what i will expect they will do for me as deaf passenger?
Sophia,
Here's Air NZ policy on people travelling with hearing disabilities:
http://www.airnz.co.nz/travelinfo/travelsupport/specialassistance/visual_hearing_disabilities.htm
You should actually mention it so the airport and crew are alerted, at least they will make sure you are aware of all the security procedures on board and make sure you're ok :)
I'd be quite interested to know how your trip went cos my mom is hard of hearing and hopefully she will be visiting me soon so any info would be great :clap
Jen
nippa&pippa
5th April 2008, 02:29 PM
Sophia,
Here's Air NZ policy on people travelling with hearing disabilities:
http://www.airnz.co.nz/travelinfo/travelsupport/specialassistance/visual_hearing_disabilities.htm
You should actually mention it so the airport and crew are alerted, at least they will make sure you are aware of all the security procedures on board and make sure you're ok :)
I'd be quite interested to know how your trip went cos my mom is hard of hearing and hopefully she will be visiting me soon so any info would be great :clap
Jen
Will do! ;)