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jan
15th January 2005, 07:57 AM
To all you kiwi folk,

Whats a Snapper???

Jan xx :?

Bubbles
15th January 2005, 08:00 AM
It's a fish.

Timbo
15th January 2005, 08:01 AM
It is a very tasty species of fish. Tis found more or less everywhere around NZ as well as plenty of other places. Most decent fishmongers here sell it. Amazingly, it comes in at roughly the same price for NZ snapper here as it does in NZ.

jan
15th January 2005, 08:07 AM
It was astrange question of mine especially as we were watching a prog on sky called `choppers` about air ambulance in NZ. The paramedic mentioned it, as he was given it as a present off someone he had just attended to.

Timbo your information about `this and that` would suggest you have lived or been to NZ before, is this the case????

jan xx :P

Timbo
15th January 2005, 08:10 AM
Have only been out the once, and that was all too brief. But, I have bben busy researching as much as possible for well over a year now. One aspect pretty close to my heart is the NZ fishing scene. I think fishing is probably more popular in New Zealand than rugby, as a participation sport.

Diny
15th January 2005, 09:45 AM
Mmmmmmm Snapper.

Being abit of a fish lover I can tell you that it's a darn fine fish, Nothing flash about it but it takes some beating.

My father in law had a small boat which he would just go out from the beach for just a couple of hundred yards and sit and catch enough snapper for dinner. Their house was a beach front property, mother in law would sit on the porch watching him, when she saw him chugging back in she'd go inside and get everything ready to cook the fish. Just wonderful.

Once again I digress.

Diny

Danpoll
15th January 2005, 09:53 AM
there is the variety of red snapper as well common off the florida cost and the west indies. A fish best related to turbot I believe particullary nice with garlic lemon and fennel bbq'd in tin foil, hmmmm tin foil



Dan

Pakeha Boy
15th January 2005, 03:21 PM
yeah but, innit spelt schnapper?
Peeple wot carnt spel rite reely get up my noes.

Beach Kiwi
15th January 2005, 04:55 PM
yeah but, innit spelt schnapper?


Correct! :nice1

Here's a picture of a really big one: CLICK ME (http://www.fishing.net.nz/images/topshots/Bruce_Martin_22lb.jpg)

Diny
15th January 2005, 09:28 PM
PB my love.

Far be it from me to dispute how a word is spelt. Last night I was looking at some sites on the 'puter' and found quite abit of info on fishing. Without exception every mention of the fish in question was spelt 'snapper'.

Schnapper sounds like something you'd drink - or maybe a German Prostitute.

Diny x

Pakeha Boy
15th January 2005, 09:34 PM
Well ven, wivvout ecksepshun, var all bluddy rong ven, intnay!

BeachK, now thats what I call a SCHNAPPER!

Diny
15th January 2005, 09:37 PM
Here you go my love ....... have a look at these.

http://www.thecoromandel.com/coromandel_fishing_tips.html
http://www.seatours.co.nz/Fishing.html

Also - this is what the Oxfordd Reference Library says:


Results from your search for snapper
Displaying 1 to 7 of 7 results


1. snapper (100%)
Marine food fish found in tropical waters of the Indo-Pacific and Atlantic Oceans. Length: to 90cm (3ft); weight: 50kg (110lb). The 250 species include the red snapper ( Lutianus campechanus ) , yellowtail ( Ocyurus chrysurus ) and Atlantic grey ( L. ...
(From World Encyclopedia in Encyclopedia)


2. snapper n. (100%)
a marine fish noted for snapping its toothed jaws. • Many species, chiefly in the family Lutjanidae.
(From The Concise Oxford English Dictionary in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses)


3. The Winter's Tale (69%)
My father named me Autolycus; who being, as I am, littered under Mercury, was likewise a snapper-up of unconsidered trifles.
(From The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Quotations in Quotations)


4. red snapper n. (67%)
an edible reddish marine fish. • Sebastes ruberrimus (N. Pacific) and genus Lutjanus (tropics).
(From The Concise Oxford English Dictionary in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses)


5. alligator snapper n. (67%)
a large snapping turtle occurring in fresh water around the Gulf of Mexico. • Macroclemys temminckii .
(From The Concise Oxford English Dictionary in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses)


6. red snapper (36%)
pargo
(From The Concise Oxford Spanish Dictionary (English-Spanish) in Bilingual Dictionaries)


7. red snapper (36%)
vivaneau m .
(From The Concise Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary (English-French) in Bilingual Dictionaries


Then I searched for 'schnapper' ....


Results from your search for schnapper
Displaying 1 to 1 of 1 result


1. catch (43%)
transitive verb, caught capture fangen; lay hold of fassen; packen; ~ somebody by the arm jemanden am Arm packen od. fassen; ~ hold of somebody / something jemanden / etwas festhalten; to stop oneself falling sich an jemandem / etwas festhalten; ...
(From The Concise Oxford-Duden German Dictionary (English-German) in Bilingual Dictionaries)

Not that I'm one to gloat but ...........

Y O U ' R E W R O N G !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

Diny

Pakeha Boy
15th January 2005, 10:02 PM
Ummm, I don't know, but I have never known an on-line dictionary to be wrong..........
So, I' s'pose honey bunch, that I win! HAH (again!)


Dictionary - Thesaurus - Web

Get the Most Popular Sites for "schnapper"

1 entry found for schnapper.
schnap·per ( P ) Pronunciation Key (shnpr, snp-)
n.
A porgy (Chrysophrys guttulatus) of Australia, Tasmania, and New Zealand, having a large bony protuberance on the nape when fully grown and prized as a sport fish and food fish. Also called (incorrectly) snapper.


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[Alteration (influenced by German Schnapper, snap, schnapper), of snapper.]

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Diny
15th January 2005, 10:06 PM
No no no

I know you're trick about doing abit of cutting and pasting ..... you've added in the 'incorrectly' bit yourself.

Folks - I've seen him do this trick .... he's a cad and a bounder !!!!

Can't argue with the Oxford Dictionary can you. :nice1

Diny xxxxx

Diny
15th January 2005, 10:09 PM
OK

I think this will show that there's 2 ways of spelling this.

I've posted the link so that I can't do any nifty 'text changes' like 'you know who'.

http://www.abc.net.au/northandwest/stories/s1092031.htm

However, I think I'll go with majority rule. It appears as 'snapper' far more than 'schnapper'. :nice1

Nah nah nah nah nah.

Diny

jan
15th January 2005, 10:17 PM
Diny, I love your style.

When you get started you are like a Terrier. I can see you don`t let thing pass you lightly.

Keep it up your so entertaining. :nice1

P.B keep trying. Not sure you are going to get too much over your BETTER HALF!!! :mrgreen:

jan xx

Timbo
15th January 2005, 10:52 PM
PB, I hate to have to tell you, but if you refer to the link below you will find that 100% of the (your fellow kiwis) fishos spell it SNAPPER.


http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/default.asp?ForumID=0

joanne
16th January 2005, 12:18 AM
We had red snapper alot when we stayed on a small island called Gilli Menu, Indonesia.
The 'restaurants" are extentions of peoples own houses. If we ordered a fruit juice all the lights dimmed when they swithed on the blender!
We once asked what was the catch of the day and the owned grabed his snorkel and said 'dunno, havent caught it yet - what would you like?"... then he waded into the sea to cath it.

A fantastic place.

Pakeha Boy
16th January 2005, 12:48 AM
OK Diny
1) Oxford Dictionary doesn't count cos it's written by a bunch of pseudo-intellectual lexiconological pommie basta*ds who never get out of their halls of study long enough to see the sun, let alone know anything about fish.
2) Your reference link to the recipe doesn't count cos its posted by a daft aussie housewife who is too busy daydreaming about fishie recipes, housework and wondering what to feed the family for dinner and keeping mum about that little thing shes got going with the postman to know anything about fish.
and Timbo, you disappoint me,
3) everyone knows that 100% of those "kiwi fishos" can't spell due to the fact that if they're lazy enough to take up a slack-arse past-time like fishing instead of say, mountain climbing, then they're lazy enough to leave out the "ch" to make writing the damn word that much easier!
And you even proved the point by the very fact that you shortened fishermen right down to "fisho" for crying out loud!!!

I'm right, :yes I know it, :yes BeachK knows it, :nice1 and anyone who doesn't know it is, well, in the words of the great Tony Blair......
"Just plain dumb!!!"

Timbo
16th January 2005, 01:39 AM
Dammmit, there is no emoticon for "I surrender".
Now, if I recall, someone on this forum quite recently accused you Kiwis of being somewhat challenged in the humour dept.
I think you have well and truly put that one to bed PB.

Diny
16th January 2005, 02:35 AM
Sweetheart.

Here's the deal.

The first time we walk into a NZ fish & chip shop and see snapper advertised as 'schnapper' ..... I'll take my clothes off and run the length of the high street.

How about that.

Diny

Diny
16th January 2005, 02:53 AM
Oh - and here's another one:

Snapper
Chrysophris pagrus
Colloquial names: reds, bream & brim (small snapper)

(Sometimes erroneously spelt as Schnapper, usually in restaurants where they cover the poor fish in fancy sauces, and charge even fancier prices.)


Similar to the sea bream of the Atlantic, but no relation to the true snappers of tropical and subtropical waters. Found also in Australia.

Average Size 30-50cm, reaching over 80cm. Weight to 18kg (40lb). Probably New Zealand's favourite sport and table fish. Tough fighters and absolutely delicious to eat.

For anybody unsure of the meaning of the word erroneous it means:
'based on or containing error; incorrect'

The above text can be found at: http://bishfish.co.nz/fishid/snapper.htm

Now - lets call time on this one.

Diny

Pakeha Boy
16th January 2005, 02:54 AM
No No No................
Here's the deal;

Any of you girls in NZ right now, gotta be one of the girls cos I don't trust blokes, (I know what they're like) (OK OK, I did do a little editing earlier)
(but you lot don't know what I'm up against with HER!)

Yeah, right, any of you girls right, next random fish & chip shop you're in, check out the menu blackboard and return your results to this thread.

Honesty please ladies...............
and we'll all have a bit of Diny grovelling here, which she does so well I might add! NOT!

Timbo
16th January 2005, 03:04 AM
Save your energy ladies, the proof is right here.

http://www.swashbucklers.co.nz/


Go to menus>pirates menu>mains.....and there it is.

Sorry PB, shall we call it a draw?
I wish I had`nt read that menu now, I am starving all of a sudden.

Diny
16th January 2005, 04:24 AM
Timbo

Where abouts is Swashbucklers?

Think we may have to visit that place (and I'll be able to keep my clothes on).

Diny

Timbo
16th January 2005, 05:03 AM
It is in Auckland Diny. I cant remember the ady. but if you visit their website it should tell you.
Do you think that has settled things now?

Yep, just checked it....Westhaven Drive.

Beach Kiwi
16th January 2005, 07:53 AM
I guess this is one of those 'you say potato, and I say...' things. :?

When I was growing up I seem to remember the name 'schnapper' being used in fish shops. However, over the last twenty years the tern 'snapper' seems to have taken its place. Both names are correct for this type of fish, but snapper seems to now be the one that is 'preferred' in New Zealand.

The New Zealand Food Standards Authority (http://www.nzfsa.govt.nz/animalproducts/legislation/notices/animal-material-product/human-consumption/scientific-names-of-fish.pdf) lists both as the common name for this fish, so I guess no one is 100% correct. ;)

markkellaway
16th January 2005, 07:58 AM
Beach Kiwi,

Can you post the address where they call them Schnappers? We can all meet there while Diny does her thing. :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

Mark. :P

Diny
16th January 2005, 08:03 AM
That's a good site - so many different fish.

However, I notice that SNAPPER is at the top of the list and in bold, whilst schnapper is below it and not in bold.

How about we go for a 60% / 40% right/wrong thing ;) ;)

Beach Kiwi
16th January 2005, 08:16 AM
Beach Kiwi,

Can you post the address where they call them Schnappers? We can all meet there while Diny does her thing. :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh



I'll see if I can find a place. But due to the cost of *that fish*, and the fact I'm not much of a fish eating person, it could take a while. ;)

Beach Kiwi
16th January 2005, 08:18 AM
How about we go for a 60% / 40% right/wrong thing ;) ;)

Like I said, 'snapper' has taken the place of 'schnapper', so it's only to be expected that it now gets 'pride of place'. ;) :mrgreen:

Beach Kiwi
16th January 2005, 08:24 AM
Can you post the address where they call them Schnappers?

Hey, it was easier than I thought! :laugh

Time to strut your stuff, Diny! ;)
CLICK ME :cheers (http://www.time2dine.co.nz/menu.php/tonys)

jo b
16th January 2005, 08:54 AM
Sorry
to but in here but Diny did mention that they probably call it schnapper in restaurant to make them sound exotic and charge exotic prices.

I seem to remember she said 'fish and chip shops'
:nice1
Jo

Beach Kiwi
16th January 2005, 09:01 AM
I seem to remember she said 'fish and chip shops'


How many fish and chip shops are going to have a website that we can visit? ;) :mrgreen:

Here's some more places to go:

Option: 1 (http://www.kaurigrove.co.nz/lunch.html)

Option: 2 (http://www.letsgo.co.nz/zones/detail_accomodation.asp?id=1458&regionid=1&tourtyp e=4)

Option: 3 (http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~glenora/glen5.htm)

Option: 4 (http://www.schnapparock.co.nz/)

markkellaway
16th January 2005, 09:10 AM
Could someone please clarify the definition of "Fish and Chip Shop"? There's a lot riding on this! :laugh

Mark. :P

Diny
16th January 2005, 09:53 AM
:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

Thanks for that Jo.

You will also note that when I made such a brash comment I was making it to PB - and I said:

Quote:

The first time we walk into a NZ fish & chip shop and see snapper advertised as 'schnapper' ..... I'll take my clothes off and run the length of the high street.

So guys, I'll abide by my original deal :nice1

Diny

Beach Kiwi
16th January 2005, 05:13 PM
The first time we walk into a NZ fish & chip shop and see snapper advertised as 'schnapper' ..... I'll take my clothes off and run the length of the high street.


I mentioned this discussion of ours with some friends of mine, and wouldn't you know it, one of them had a picture of a fish and chip shop in Northland that seems to fit the bill. :nice1

http://www.netlane.nm.ru/rosies1.jpg

Pakeha Boy
16th January 2005, 06:53 PM
Well Done BeachK :nice1

Diny, the writings on the wall :laugh :laugh :laugh

Diny
16th January 2005, 08:53 PM
Yep - can't argue with that. :nice1

If/when we walk into that fish & chip shop, the gear will come off and the streak down the high street will commence.

The conditions of my ORIGINAL DEAL still stand firm - watch this space.

Diny

foolsgold99
9th June 2005, 04:17 PM
I'm the 7 weeks I've been here, I've visited a few fish and chip shops, and without exception the have all spelled it schnapper :nice1

chips
9th June 2005, 07:14 PM
We had a massive fish gorge out on sunday night. someone had GIVEN us a 10lb snapper and a 1.5kg fresh crayfish.
Hubbie went out during the day and caught fresh snapper ,and we had that thinnly sliced ,raw ,along with a fish salad which was made with fresh kahawai ( caught by me!) (4lb) ,left in lemon over night ,then with onion and coconut milk.
Some of you will go wild for the fishing, a fun day out in the fresh air ,and then you generally bring home something for tea.
The only thing that i don't like about fishing ,is the killing of the fish. :uhoh
good hunting for all .!

P.s if you would like to see a picture of a kahawai , PM ,and i can give you a link to the one i caught. fight like hell they do!

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