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Carey
1st December 2007, 06:41 AM
Well we seem to be going no-where; have not got the primary teaching interviews I'd hoped for, jobs are drying up because too little time before new term in Feb, our EOI is realistically too low to be selected at 110 points, if we're not going to be in NZ by Feb, then our eldest will miss out on one year as a Yr 8 which we'd hoped for before High School...yet we have friends who are keen to buy our house, we're sure we want to go but our chance seem so slim. Plan B is too risky with 3 kids, ie. to go and hope to get jobs, when obviously there are enough NZ teachers to fill the posts.....just feeling a bit low that our hopes may not be met after all.....I need some encouragement please!!

Jennispink
1st December 2007, 07:19 AM
Sorry I can't be of much practical help but we're with you and hoping for you all the way. It will happen eventually if you want it badly enough:yes

Oregonkiwi
1st December 2007, 07:24 AM
when obviously there are enough NZ teachers to fill the posts

Not according to this:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=329&objectid=10477408

Ministry of Education spokesman Iain Butler said the ministry had acknowledged a shortage of primary and secondary school teachers.

He said it had a range of strategies in place, including increased recruiting for overseas-trained teachers and New Zealand-trained teachers who were living abroad.

Keep trying, it will all work out!

ourquest
1st December 2007, 07:35 AM
Hey Carey,
If it means anything then the vast majority of emigrants hit some hurdles along the way. So many on the forum seem, for example, to have everything lined up, and then they can't get their house sold. There are many similar sort of stories. Luckily things have a habit of sorting themselves out for the best in the end.

Much as it seems risky to take the plunge and arrive on visitor's visas, a commonly accepted fact is that jobs are much easier to come by once you are in New Zealand. Not just from a logistics point of view, but because it sends a clear message of your intentions to any prospective employer. Still, a big and stressful adventure if you did take it on, and understandably not the most ideal option. If it is your only way in though, then it has to be worth it in the end to give it a try, depending on your commitment to making the move to NZ in the first place, which I have no doubt from your post is strong enough.

Having just read the previous post which came in between me replying and editing, I recall some sort of government directive to reduce teacher pupil ratios in primary schools down to 1:19 (I think). Surely this would support Oregonkiwi's information above that teachers will be in short supply? Perhaps do a search on teacher pupil ratios or something.

I wish you the best; maybe everyone reading this can think positive thoughts for you.

peebles16
1st December 2007, 07:39 AM
Oh Carey
Can't be of much help on the job front but just what others have said really - keep your chin up it'll happen for you am sure :)
All the best
Karen

Rusty
1st December 2007, 09:58 AM
Well we seem to be going no-where; have not got the primary teaching interviews I'd hoped for, jobs are drying up because too little time before new term in Feb, our EOI is realistically too low to be selected at 110 points, if we're not going to be in NZ by Feb, then our eldest will miss out on one year as a Yr 8 which we'd hoped for before High School...yet we have friends who are keen to buy our house, we're sure we want to go but our chance seem so slim. Plan B is too risky with 3 kids, ie. to go and hope to get jobs, when obviously there are enough NZ teachers to fill the posts.....just feeling a bit low that our hopes may not be met after all.....I need some encouragement please!!

It is a hard journey/experience with ups and downs.
The only comment I can make is a question my wife asked me when we were doubting if we would get selected (happaned a lot) "if the reasons for wanting to go are still there, selected or not, why not just go anyway and take the chance".
It depends on how much of a risk you are willing to take, but as a qualified teacher, as others said, you should find a job when there.
We also have 3 young kids and understand the worry of uprooting them, but we are also doing it to improve their lives!
The doubts you have are quite common, but think about why you want to go.
If that doesn't work, then a large glass of wine may help ;) :exit

Lupin
1st December 2007, 06:29 PM
Have PM'd you Carey :)

lockstock
1st December 2007, 10:19 PM
Carey - I was feeling that way with 115 points. The jobs are there - after weeks of nothing I got an interview, then a job - then two more offers! I realise you have more to risk than we do but just look at the Ed gazette pages. They are screaming out for primary teachers. Keep plugging away. Don't give up.:nice1

Nick88
2nd December 2007, 12:18 AM
I agree with Ourquest. If you're going to do then sell the house and go. As long as you have the funds to keep yourself going until March when the first paycheque comes in I reckon you will be fine. Getting the job will be much much easier once you are here and they can interview you in person.

We came over on tourist visas.....

Alison&Stephen
2nd December 2007, 01:20 AM
Hi Carey, I hope you can sense the positives people will be sending you right now and I wish you well. Things do seem to have a way of working out.

It is not an easy process as many will tell you. We are flying out Christmas Eve and our house is not sold so funding is a major issue. One sister and brother-in-law are now basically blanking us and right now it's not good.

Stick with your plans and dreams - we came very close to giving up our dream then it all happened at once.

Best wishes,
Alison

vixxann
2nd December 2007, 01:59 AM
Hi Carey
I know some of our situations are similar and I just wanted to send you a big hug and say I'm sure it will all work out :yes

As soon as our house sells we'll be making the jump with no jobs, no PR and three kids:D I figure its worth the risk - we're fairly positive that a job will be much easier to obtain when in NZ and until then I suppose its one big (frugal!) holiday !!

good luck
Vicki

Carey
2nd December 2007, 04:47 AM
Gosh, thanks everyone!

Just been looking thro' closing dates of jobs I have applied for and there is some hope. Yes there are lots of jobs advertised, actually I've been amazed how many but there must be an awful lot of Kiwis moving around the country to fill them; I'm applying for out of the way, rural adn semi-rural ones, thinking alot of people would want to be in the main cities but maybe not. Do have an agent looking for me too who, when she contacts schools, says they are inundated with applications; who are all these teachers??!!

OH and I talk it thro' endlessly; we'll have our 6 months sitting in the pool then have to make some decisions! As so many say, it's all part of the ups and downs of this ride.

Thanks again all of you!

Tech21
7th December 2007, 03:06 AM
Carey,
Try not to get too despondent....easy to say and hard to do, I know we have been there several times.
We have had hells own job from putting in the EOI...it is a total rollercoaster of a ride...up one moment, down the next...at one point after being picked from the pool we got into a "when is a BSc not a BSc" argument with the NZ Qualifications board...they wanted a BSc with Honours to class as a level 7 qualification and a BSc (done with the OU) was treated as a level 6 but a BSc done without ever having had a job i.e. straight from school to uni was classed as a Level 7....why??

Anyway...long story short...this is what happened and it started to get serious 4 weeks ago : -

My wife is the main applicant….
EOI Submitted 13/3/07,
Selected 14/3/07
ITA received 4/7/07
NZQA disaster!!!
Manchester expo, CV’s distributed to NZ agents.
Phone interview 5/11/07
Video Conference Interview 6/11/07,
Verbal job offer 8/11/07
Due to start work 22nd Jan...
Work visas applied for 24/11/07

Myself and my 8 year old son have managed by some miraculous quirk of fate to get a cabin that has come available on the QE2 of all things (which was all booked up in August). It leaves Southampton on 6th Jan 2008 and after a 46 day half world cruise gets to Auckland 21st Feb 2008...hows that for an astonishing piece of luck and a once in a lifetime oportunity!!

My wife flies out on the 7th or 8th of Jan 2008, starts a job in Wellington on 22 Jan 2008.

Out 7 cats (yes seven) fly out on 10th Jan 2008.

The gods have certainly smiled on us......

So we have gone from total despondency and depression in late October/early November with them saying that we didn't have the points total that we thought we had to…"holy cr#p!!!...we are really going...and we only have 8 weeks including Christmas and new Year"....PANIC.....

So take heart, it can happen and most likely will happen when you are least expecting it....and are least prepared for it.

Best of luck…and hang on in there….

Gareth

Carey
17th December 2007, 02:42 AM
WOW ! sorry only just got back to this, what a journey and your actual journey on the QE2 , will be AMAZING! Thanks for outlining your route and very good luck to you all.

Tech21
18th December 2007, 06:15 AM
Don't worry, it will happen.

Best of luck

Gareth

My wife is the main applicant….
EOI Submitted 13/3/07,
Selected 14/3/07
ITA received 4/7/07
NZQA disaster!!!...Total panic:uhoh
Manchester expo, CV’s distributed to NZ agents.
Phone interview 5/11/07
Video Conference Interview 6/11/07,
Verbal job offer 8/11/07
Due to start work 22nd Jan...
Work visas applied for 24/11/07
1st House sold 1st week in December
Work visas arrived 2nd week in December
Sister-in-law has comitted to buy 2nd house by 1st week in Jan
All flights and sailings booked by 17th December
Bye Bye UK 6th, 7th and the 10th of January 2008:exit
Hello Wellington 8th Jan (Jane) 12th Jan (7x Moggies) 21st Feb Lex and Gareth. :nice1

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