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yossarian
4th December 2007, 06:38 PM
Hi! a question regarding proof of English ability... From nz immigration site (http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/work/skilledmigrant/caniapply/requirements/english/default.htm), we only need one of the several documents. In my case, the easiest and cheapest way (i think) that I could provide is "A recognised qualification from a course taught entirely in English."

The university I attended is among those listed from nz site, and I've taken courses taught entirely in English. Moreover, I've lived my entire life in a country where English is one of the official language (Philippines and Hong Kong). Do you think I still need an IELTS ('cause it's mentioned that it's the best evidence of your English language ability).

Thank you!

ourquest
5th December 2007, 06:46 AM
Its in the hands of the NZIS now. If your specific course was taught entirely in English, and you can prove it, then you should be OK. Hong Kong and Phillipines, because English is not the only official language, won't IMO be sufficient proof of your English capability.

yossarian
5th December 2007, 12:42 PM
i see..i took up some english communication units back in univ, and they were in english of course. the thing is i'm not sure where to catch my professor though! that was 5 years ago! :( thinking of getting the IELTS now...

thanks!

ourquest
5th December 2007, 02:46 PM
I think your whole qualification for which you are claiming qualification points needs to have been taught in english, and not just certain modules or additional subjects.

You might be able to get a letter from the University indicating that they conduct all courses in English...but this might be your problem if they don't necessarily use English. I gather that NZIS need to be satisfied that you are essentially a native english speaker...for eg in South Africa we (OH and I) have school records clearly showing english to be "first language", our particular Universities (when we were there, anyway) teach only in english, I was born in the UK to British parents etc. We are therefore unlikely to be asked for IELTS, but others from South Africa do require it because the country has more than one official language. Still, NZIS always reserve the right to seek any additional proof that they can, although they do seem reasonable with this.

yossarian
5th December 2007, 05:58 PM
got it, guess i really need to take IELTS.
thanks! :)

Lupin
5th December 2007, 06:17 PM
I think your username alone should prove you a 100% worthy resident of NZ :)

yossarian
5th December 2007, 07:50 PM
haha..from heller's? afaik, yossarian's an assyrian there though. :)

Lupin
6th December 2007, 05:09 AM
My all time favourite book :)

Also, I'm fairly certain you'd need a good command of the English Language to get the humour!

ourquest
6th December 2007, 06:13 AM
My all time favourite book :)

Also, I'm fairly certain you'd need a good command of the English Language to get the humour!

Oh dear, I might need that IELTS after all!:laugh Went over my head...

yossarian
6th December 2007, 10:12 PM
really good read! but i'm going on children's now, pullman's 'his dark materials'...i'm just curious by the agnostic intrigue going on.
so before we switch this post into a book club, i'm going to sit for the IELTS exam first thing after the holiday! wish me luck! :)

ourquest
7th December 2007, 05:29 AM
wish me luck! :)

LUCK.:nice1

hoffenberg
21st January 2008, 10:44 PM
just speak english

Annierobrigado
22nd January 2008, 10:57 AM
hi yossarian

are you from the philippines, or hongkong?

i think it depends on your visa officer... ours at first asked us to provide IELTS result as proof of our english proficiency, but before we signed up for the tests, we wrote her a very heartfelt letter of appeal that we have been taught in English from primary school to postgraduate university, we've provided certificates from each of our schools (primary, secondary and tertiary schools) that English is the medium of instruction in those schools, and we added that we are professors in the college of medicine which teaches the entire medical course in english, as certified by the dean of the college of medicine. in addition, my husband who was prinicipal applicant is a high ranking university official who is the main resource for student applications from local and overseas universities, as well as the contact person for confirmation, evaluation and information regarding student records, enrolment, graduation, and other qualifications as required by overseas qualifications boards/institutions, and since correspondence come from all over the world, communication is always done in english.

ms. V.O. agreed that this is enough proof of our proficiency in english and no longer required us to take the exam. whew!!:nice1

maybe you are of similar circumstances? you could try writing your vo before you sit down to ielts... won't hurt, ey?

cheers!
annie

yossarian
1st April 2008, 08:14 PM
hi anne!
i know this is so overdue.. yes, i'm from the philippines, but lived in hong kong for more than 2 years, which means extra work (had to get 2 police clearances).

the thing is, i studied in UP, so i can't mention that the entire course i took there was conducted in english. :(

anyway, i already took the IELTS. fortunately, the result was alright. :)

how is your application going? i'm about to submit my ITA within this week :)

Asli&Mark
1st April 2008, 10:28 PM
Hello Yossarian,

I was just going to write to you as I was thinking you might not need to take the ILTS but apparently I am late.
Well congrats on the resuls and good luck with the rest of the proccess
Asli

yossarian
1st April 2008, 10:35 PM
hi asli!
thanks :)

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