tea drinker
14th January 2008, 10:08 PM
If any teachers saw this mornings programme (hoping that you recorded it as otherwise you were watching it with your class:D ) about a teacher and family moving to Napier do you agree with her thoughts that the school/education was not as 'stimulating' or 'exciting' ?(sorry cant remember the exact word she used) as her job in Cardiff.
Did I miss something? Did the programme makers cut out something?
Class size seemed ok. room looked a bit small but that happens here too. Wall displays were colourful and full of childrens work....
mmmm...what does anyone else think?
Any teachers already in NZ got any thoughts?
Ta
:confused:
Jennispink
14th January 2008, 11:48 PM
Haven't seen the programme yet(recorded to watch with family later) but I think all the NZ ones have had rubbish families on. None of them seemed exceeding keen in the first place. :confused:
Or is that just because I'm so keen??:laugh
Ricky
15th January 2008, 12:05 AM
I have seen most of them and I agree with Jenni that the families that want to go to NZ are not always 100% behind the idea. Further the messages from the family and friends at home are sometimes a bit OTT, off course we all miss our family and friends but sometimes you have to look at the greater picture. Is the move good for you and your own family, if it is, then what others think at home should go to second place.
Maybe I might have upset some people now so I better stop here. :exit
Ricky
Belmont Babes
15th January 2008, 12:17 AM
I completely agree. It almost feels like some people applied to the show "on a whim", and as for the school this morning, it seemed great to me.
Mickstim
15th January 2008, 12:18 AM
I felt so irritated by today's applicant's father with his totally manipulative video. Saying he thought they were being very selfish and then following that with 'but you must do what you think is right'. Talk about putting your kids on a guilt trip - that was nasty!
B xx
Andy-Dee
15th January 2008, 02:46 AM
You have to ask yourself how you would feel if your children wanted to go on an adventure somewhere away from you.
Some parents will kick, scream and lay a guilt trip on with a trowel whilst others will be supportive, wave them off with gritted teeth and plan to visit as soon as possible.
I thought the Napier programmes family was very unprepared either that or the researchers had not done their homework as i would have said Wellington would have been a better location for them.
vixxann
15th January 2008, 03:45 AM
I didn't see the Napier one but caught a couple of others (Dunedin and c'church ones) I think in general the families aren't that serious and well researched and perhaps just do it to get a holiday :p (my opinion only!)
tea drinker
15th January 2008, 06:10 AM
I did feel for the family when the father was going on about them being selfish for wanting to leave, how did they feel having that broadcast to the nation? Although the dad did say towards the end that he would support them in their decision.
I couldn't see what was not stimulating about the NZ school and I missed the first few minutes so dont know if they showed the sch in Cardiff. The NZ curriculum looks like it should and could be stimulating and the classroom in the programme appeared to have lots of displays that were colourful and were childrens work?
Rusty
15th January 2008, 06:42 AM
I didn't see the Napier one but caught a couple of others (Dunedin and c'church ones) I think in general the families aren't that serious and well researched and perhaps just do it to get a holiday :p (my opinion only!)
The only family that I know have gone to NZ from this are the ChCH one and they are arriving about now.
K&CS
15th January 2008, 06:45 AM
You have to ask yourself how you would feel if your children wanted to go on an adventure somewhere away from you
Exactly! My children will almost certainly want to do their OE in Europe when they reach that age - in fact I will encourage them to. I think travel and experiencing new places is the most important thing in the world. If any of them decide to settle over there, then maybe when/if that arises, we may consider spending time over there, but I would never ever put a guilt trip on my children. There is simply no excuse for it. You do not own your children.
Obviously haven't seen this series as we're not in UK (hopefully it will be shown here eventually), but I've always found the families used on these sort of programmes annoying. They deliberately pick people who will make for interesting viewing I'm sure. I remember screaming at the TV when watching 'A New Life Down Under' which was shown a few years ago! It isn't interesting watching families who happily settle down and the video thing isn't realistic either. Most people who are emigrating don't watch videos of their families pouring out their hearts when they're a couple of weeks into their reccie. It's just totally unrealistic and done purely for ratings!
On second thoughts, I don't think I want to watch it when it's shown here. It's annoying me already and I haven't even seen it!!
Kate
nippa&pippa
15th January 2008, 07:41 AM
Just recieved email from my mum wrote about this programme and she watched with interest, just looking at background!!! Christchurch programme brought back memories for her as i live next to lincoln township & my ds' kindy is nearby to lincoln hospital :nice1
Btw the programme maker always picked rubbish people to get people to watch the tv and maybe had something from government as deal to ensure they stay in UK afterward????:laugh
Myrkk
15th January 2008, 07:53 AM
I found todays couple really irritating. The woman was busy saying how she hoped the kiwis were open to other cultures [not something I've found the Welsh to be and I'm sorry if I upset any Welsh on here, that is not my intention] and the clips kept showing her teaching the kids in the school about wales....... she was no way going to move.
It seems they went out on a whim, the man was had itchy feet, and were in no way serious.
vanmarwijk
15th January 2008, 08:12 AM
I accidentally saw the Napier one this morning and I was wondering 'why?' most of the time... If Napier is too quiet, why not go and have a look at Auckland or Wellington? Why is her father calling them selfish? Why is a class room full of quiet children not 'challenging'?
It was sort of a fun watch, but it was pretty obvious they were there on a whim (wich is not necessarily a bad thing).
James 1077
16th January 2008, 03:39 AM
I don't get the whole parents being against the move thing. My in-laws are completely for us going to NZ as they know that they have an open invitation to stay and so will use us going there as a base for exploring the region.
To be honest if they come over every year or so they will probably see more of us in NZ than they do here as they'll be practically living with us for a few weeks each year rather than catching a couple of hours here and there.
And with Skype they'll even be able to see their grandkids growing up as well.
Mickstim
16th January 2008, 06:33 AM
That's how we feel James! We have kids (grown up ones) in NZ, US and S Africa and love being able to visit them all. We also find that when they come to us we actually spend quality time together. We raised our kids to be happy, independent people and are thrilled for them if they get the chance to live the lives they want.
B x
craig1234564
17th January 2008, 09:50 AM
I also dont get how people can get so emotional when they have only been gone a week!
I have to say I didnt like the look of Napier it looks a dull place, dont really care about art deco.
I noticed rugby seemed to be forced onto the kids and making them do the stupid haka, although it did look fun to try as a one off :)
Is it different in christchurch or does everyone have to do the haka there too? I wonder if they realised that when you stick your tongue out it means I will eat you for breakfast !!? :clap :clap
so far may fav programme was the dunedin one, wow that place looks fantastic! shame its probably too cold there!
willsken
17th January 2008, 11:15 AM
the stupid haka
Why is it stupid?:confused: I love watching the kids in school doing the haka and no, it's not forced on them. The group has also helped keep some kids from getting involved with gangs, given them a sense of identity other than what the gangs offer them.
sizzlingbadger
17th January 2008, 11:39 AM
Have to say craig1234564 I hope I've read your post the wrong way and it's meant to be tongue and cheek :uhoh
Can't understand why you're wanting to move to NZ with some of the comments you made in your post :confused: The haka is part of kiwi history and if that's your attitude to it you're going to end up with very few if any kiwi friends. How can you say that a place is boring just by seeing it on tv ? Have you ever visited it before ?
As I have said I hope I've just read it the wrong way.
K&CS
17th January 2008, 02:48 PM
I imagine he means it tongue in cheek! My girls do Kappa Haka at school and took part in the cultural festival in August which they just loved. Even my two year old was doing the haka in the car - it was hysterical. Nothing is forced on them. They learn some basic Maori at school and greet the teachers in Maori which I think is great.
I haven't been to Napier but it's top of my list of places in the NI to go to - it certainly doesn't look dull! Obviously I haven't seen the programme so maybe they made it look dull??
Kate
river11
17th January 2008, 09:39 PM
I haven't been to Napier but it's top of my list of places in the NI to go to - it certainly doesn't look dull! Obviously I haven't seen the programme so maybe they made it look dull??
Kate
The programme makers did make the place look dull, probably due to the beach looking a bit rubbish by one of the houses, it being cloudy and looking cold (it was winter) and the the fact that the family had no intention of moving there, so weren't exactly enthusiastic. I actually loved the look of the place.
Ricky
18th January 2008, 12:08 AM
Kate
if you change your mind and you want to watch it then click on the following link http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ and click on W fro Wanted Down under, after that you can go outside and start screaming :wah .
Ricky
IanW99
18th January 2008, 05:24 AM
Kate
if you change your mind and you want to watch it then click on the following link http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ and click on W fro Wanted Down under, after that you can go outside and start screaming :wah .
Ricky
She is likely to start screaming because it will tell her that she isn't in UK and so is unable to download the program :exit
Ian
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