[Moorf]

I thought long and hard before posting this as I really don't want to sound like a wuss... but... having travelled extensiviely in the past with NO worries etc I have been increasingly worried about flying... so much so that we avoided a UK / USA based airline to go to NZ.

Is there anyone else out there who is having the same worries... the Oz Embassy bombing yesterday didn't do much for my arguement that we'd be out of range in NZ... I'm just being silly aren't I... ?

[Kim39]

Moorf my good friend i think you have the right to worry along with the rest of the world. We all know this threat is here and is probably here for the foreseeable future. I think the situation to a degree resembles the problems we have had in the past with certain groups within our own borders. We all trod carefully then and we will just have to be aware once again. I agree that trying to stay away from anything that is related to the US is the best policy, but this was not the case with the attack in Bali, that was an attack on anyone and everyone.
Think what you have said " i am being silly" no is quite simply the answer, we all have the same thoughts regarding this. Hey you could always go by boat, but there again the plane could fall out of the sky and sink your boat. Sorry had to drop a bit of humour within this serious question.

[Tanya]

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Think what you have said " i am being silly" no is quite simply the answer, we all have the same thoughts regarding this. Hey you could always go by boat, but there again the plane could fall out of the sky and sink your boat. Sorry had to drop a bit of humour within this serious question.

Hmmm reminds me of what the Guy from Britannia told me this week about containers.

Aparently Ellen McCarthur(you know the famous yachtswomen) said the thing that caused her the most problems was night sailing as she had to navigate around the containers that we floating in the sea! :eek :eek more than the icebergs so she couldn't put the boat on autopilot as she had to keep checking what was in her path.

Tanya :angel

[coastcat]

Australia, Japan, and the UK supported the U.S. in the Iraq war; NZ, China, and Canada were not part of the "coalition of the willing". This doesn't mean that Kiwi interests overseas won't ever be targeted, but it's not as likely. If you want to be extra-cautious, fly Air NZ, Cathay Pacific, or Air Canada to Akl/Chch. No guarantees, of course.

[Raeven]

Hi, Moorf,

I think we all can identify with your fears and concerns, and it's not silly. Unlikely, though, and you already know that. Still, why take chances when you needn't? I agree with coastcat. Book on a mild-mannered airline and minimize the risk to the extent you can.

We'll be flying out of LAX, which I never look forward to. It's a crap shoot, but what can you do?

As for NZ being a target, well, everywhere is a target. But I doubt Al Qaeda would get much mileage out of bombing a remote place with a bunch of sheep and vineyards. And on the bright side, NZ's borders are MUCH easier to control than, say, those of the UK or the US! The extent of NZ's contribution to the "coalition of the willing" has been reconstructive and supportive in nature, not military. All 50 of them, I think!

Tanya, loved the Ellen McCarthur story.. except I can just see it being our container she's dodging!! Oh, well. Any excuse for a new houseful of furniture, eh?

We'll all get there, I know it!

Huuuuuuugggggggggssssssss to all, Rae

[Michelle and Richard]

Moorf

I have flown for 17 years and my biggest worry was the 53 mile drive down the M62 when I went to work.

Michelle

[Mildred]

Moorf

I can put your mind at ease :hopeso When I last had reflexology on my feet the reflexologist informed me that a prophet (not Nostradamus but she couldn't remember who) had predicted that there was going to be a World War III and there would be only two countries not involved. One was NZ and she couldn't remember the other!!!

Now is this because NZ is going to be hit by the killer earthquake/volcano/tidal wave first or even the return of the killer bunnies :?

On another point in the UK we have lived with terrorism for years. Before having kids 10 years ago I used to be a Woman Police Officer and unfortunately Kent was not exempt from terrorism attacks, the last being at Deal Barracks where many young marines were killed which I was unlucky enough to have had to attend within hours of the bombing.

Terrorism has gone on for centuries in one form or another and throughout the world. If we worried too much about it we would never do anything in life and the terrorists would have won.

[Annierobrigado]

Moorf

I can put your mind at ease :hopeso When I last had reflexology on my feet the reflexologist informed me that a prophet (not Nostradamus but she couldn't remember who) had predicted that there was going to be a World War III and there would be only two countries not involved. One was NZ and she couldn't remember the other!!!

Now is this because NZ is going to be hit by the killer earthquake/volcano/tidal wave first or even the return of the killer bunnies :?

On another point in the UK we have lived with terrorism for years. Before having kids 10 years ago I used to be a Woman Police Officer and unfortunately Kent was not exempt from terrorism attacks, the last being at Deal Barracks where many young marines were killed which I was unlucky enough to have had to attend within hours of the bombing.

Terrorism has gone on for centuries in one form or another and throughout the world. If we worried too much about it we would never do anything in life and the terrorists would have won.


hello frances

the other country not involved with ww3 besides nz is the philippines, coz nobody will be in the country anymore, every filipino is out in other countries. hehehe.

yes, terrrorism abounds, even in our country. so sad, coz it keeps other countries from visiting our islands, which have long been a tourist attraction. and we do need to increase our tourism business so our economy can improve!

but that's only in some remote towns or islands. the rest of the country is still peaceful and fun to explore. i guess that's true for all other countries, even the usa. but in new zealand, better watch out for that sheep that's run amok! kidding... :laugh

good luck to you, and keep smiling!

annie

[Timbo]

Hi Annie. Some good friends of ours moved out to San Guillermo, Morong, Rizal just over a year ago. They have just been back to uk to tie up some loose ends, but insist they will not be back again. They just love it out there, and feel quite safe in fact compared to when in London.
From the pics I have seen, your country is indeed very beautiful.

[Annierobrigado]

hello timbo,

yes, thanks for the compliment. actually, i find it heartening and uplifting to see many foreigners, whether UK or US or australia or europe or other asian countries for that matter, enjoy their trip to the philippines and often return, and even make this their 2nd home. sometimes you don't appreciate your own, until someone else does it for you.

actually many of the filipinos who are old enough to have gone through the EDSA revolution, but young enough to have small kids or even teenagers, would still opt to stay in the country if it were up to themselves only. however, the future of these small kids and teenagers seem kind of bleak, they would have to compete more fiercely with their peers for the same kind of opportunities that their parents were able to find for themselves. thus the idea of migration, or at least working overseas to send precious dollars back home so that the kids can go to school and have a roof (with electricity) over their heads.

but thanks to your friends who affirm that the philippines is a good place to stay. now if only we earned in pounds... :laugh

as i've mentioned in another thread in this forum, we filipinos would just like to have the opportunities that the countries of the first world offer. many of my countrymen find it in the US, and many still believe the US is still the land of plentiful, that it is easy to get their american dream. but my husband and i prefer to find those opportunities in a place that is off the beaten path (well, not so off, anyway, there is a McDonald's in NZ). I mean, we'd like to go the road less traveled. NZ may not be as rich as UK or USA, but it has more value, and culturally, it is a more conducive place for growing up. I think NZ has hazy borders that allow merging or diffusion of what is best in anybody who would want to live there.

did i bore you with my posturing? hope not :mrgreen:

see ya

annie

[Moorf]

Yep bookish - and now my worries look silly :oops:

[Annierobrigado]

Moorf!

you got all your airplanes! you are now a NZ guru!

hats off to you, ma'am :nice1

annie