mesh2008
6th March 2008, 07:44 PM
I checked the form 1134 and I can see a question about the military service. I completed the one-year obligatory service a while ago, the question asks only for roles, units and serial number. Will they ever request any additional paperwork?
I'm a bit worried as I don't know whether it is legal to send this kind of information to foreign country or not. Please advice.
Thank you
AM
KelvinAng
6th March 2008, 08:16 PM
Hi,
As far as I'm aware it is in accordance to the Geneva Convention that any POW can and need only reveal their rank, name, and ID number. I'm assuming that it applies to all soldiers (prisoners or not) in countries that signed the Geneva Convention. I'm in the same situation and not sure about the part on unit, but I suppose by stating the unit you're actually not giving any secrets away.
Kelvin
mesh2008
6th March 2008, 08:19 PM
mmm, great so I can reveal the details with no problems then. But do you have any idea whether NZ require any kind of paperwork? or just the details? actually I searched their guide but I didn't find any paperwork required for military service, do you have any idea?
KelvinAng
6th March 2008, 08:25 PM
Sorry I've got no idea. I've received the ITA but in the documents they didn't mention any paperwork relating to military services so I'm assuming they're just curious :-)
I've edited my previous post (about the part on "unit") so please note that...
mesh2008
6th March 2008, 08:30 PM
This is great! Since you submitted your qualification to NZQA, did you have to send any ID (e.g. passport) or something to them or just the qualification? Also, I asked my bank for a bank draft but since it is a US bank, they told me that they could issue a draft in USD only. I'm too worried about the exchange rate when my application is received, do you think I should add any extra $$ just in case the exchange rate changes or something?
KelvinAng
6th March 2008, 08:55 PM
I sent NZQA just the qualifications and prove of current and past employment in the form of testimonials and job offer letters (not sure why they needed that, but they asked for it so I supplied it). No IDs.
I went with the credit card payment route so I don't know about the bank draft, sorry.
mesh2008
6th March 2008, 10:02 PM
Thank you very much for your great help :)
AM
Croft
7th March 2008, 02:16 AM
Hi,
As far as I'm aware it is in accordance to the Geneva Convention that any POW can and need only reveal their rank, name, and ID number. I'm assuming that it applies to all soldiers (prisoners or not) in countries that signed the Geneva Convention. I'm in the same situation and not sure about the part on unit, but I suppose by stating the unit you're actually not giving any secrets away.
Kelvin
There are of course several Geneva Conventions dealing with many ways that war is fought, signed over several decades. Some countries are not signatories, but that does not preclude the country that has signed it from not following its guidance.
You are permitted to reveal 6 items of information:
Name
Rank
Number
DOB
Religion
Blood Group
Not your unit (that can give away to the enemy what force structure and/or intentions are).
I don't think what INZ are requesting falls into this category! If need be, be very general and just put in service, ie Navy, Army Air Force.
BkyMonster
7th March 2008, 04:18 AM
I know the US military has a document (dd214) that basically says they don't own you anymore when your service term is up. If you have something like that it might be good to include in your ITA packet if you need to prove that you are no longer a member of the military.
Croft
7th March 2008, 04:42 AM
I know the US military has a document (dd214) that basically says they don't own you anymore when your service term is up. If you have something like that it might be good to include in your ITA packet if you need to prove that you are no longer a member of the military.
In the UK this depends on your length of regular service, but all attract some recall liability for a number of years. For shorter service it's typically 4 years, but some engagements/commissions it lasts until 65!!
Some European countries reserve the right to recall all those who have completed conscription at any point should there be a national danger.
So many people fall into these categories that I wouldn't worry about it.
tomo1340
7th March 2008, 05:17 AM
In the UK this depends on your length of regular service, but all attract some recall liability for a number of years. For shorter service it's typically 4 years, but some engagements/commissions it lasts until 65!!
Some European countries reserve the right to recall all those who have completed conscription at any point should there be a national danger.
So many people fall into these categories that I wouldn't worry about it.
When I left the army I was asked if I was either planning on living abroad or in Northern Ireland, as they wouldn't place anyone on the reserve list in this situation.
Croft
7th March 2008, 09:14 AM
When I left the army I was asked if I was either planning on living abroad or in Northern Ireland, as they wouldn't place anyone on the reserve list in this situation.
Didn't ask me when I left the regulars - and I know many reserves who live abroad!
mesh2008
8th March 2008, 06:03 AM
Thank you guys for your reply :)
AM
tomo1340
8th March 2008, 08:20 AM
Didn't ask me when I left the regulars - and I know many reserves who live abroad!
No idea then, I left in 2001 and had to fill out a form. I was in a protected trade at the time and they weren't very happy about letting me go either.:exit
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