DaveH
28th March 2008, 07:43 AM
Sorry to bother you again here, I've been looking at how many points I have on the EOI and it doesn't seem to quite come up to 100 (more like 95). This is basically as I'm a recent graduate my work experience is pretty non-existent (although I do have modules in a skills shortage area auditing). I have family out there in Auckland and am wondering what the best thing would do to be. I've been advised by my family to just get a working holiday visa then try and get a job once I'm there as they'll give me free accommodation for a few months. Or would it simply be better to apply for jobs on-line before I go and try and get a proper working visa then? I'm so confused at the moment I'm basically thinking the lack of work experience within the field of my degree is going to count against me but hoping that my family ties there and me being 23 and having a degree may help. Any advice would be appreciated greatly,
Dave
Familyofmonkeys
28th March 2008, 07:51 AM
You might get less points for work experience, but you have more for age instead. You might well find it easier to get a job over here as future employers can meet you face to face. While it is possible to get a job from UK (plenty have done so) I imagine without many years of personal experience to discuss on a telephone interview...it is likely to be harder going.
StevieD
28th March 2008, 08:15 AM
I'd second that, being on the ground here makes a huge amount of difference, and free accomodation? Don't turn that down my friend :laugh
Once you have a job getting a visa is a bit easier I believe.
Good luck
DaveH
28th March 2008, 08:25 AM
I'd second that, being on the ground here makes a huge amount of difference, and free accomodation? Don't turn that down my friend :laugh
Once you have a job getting a visa is a bit easier I believe.
Good luck
Thanks guys, as I said I'm just confusing myself but I can't wait to get there myself. I think my family is slowly moving over there :laugh
DaveH
29th March 2008, 02:26 AM
So you think the best idea is to simply get a 12 month visa (working holiday) then try and get a job when I get there, making use of the free accommodation my family provides in the meantime? I will be applying for jobs in advance but as you said its much better to do it in person as I'm not the greatest telephone interviewee in the world. The once if I get a graduate type of job then apply for residence or a longer working visa?
Pebbles
29th March 2008, 03:43 AM
Check out the limitations on a WHV though.
I remember reading somewhere that u can't take any job.
DaveH
29th March 2008, 04:04 AM
Check out the limitations on a WHV though.
I remember reading somewhere that u can't take any job.
Yeah I keep reading that,
Quote -http://www.visasforaustralia.co.uk/pages/visas/newzealandworkingholidayvisa.php
[Quote]The New Zealand Government must be happy that your main purpose in applying for a New Zealand working holiday visa is to holiday and not to work.[/End Quote]
It says I can get a job whilst I'm there but as I'm realistically looking for a career not a part time job to keep me going on holiday. Would you guys say this is the wrong type of visa for me? If so which one would you suggest as I want to move there properly (not for a holiday) and get a job settle down etc in the long term so I want to make sure I do everything right.
migratory birds
29th March 2008, 04:18 AM
I know nothing about family sponsorship other than it exists. Not sure how far out the definition of "family" extends (Parents/children - yes; Siblings? Cousins? Aunts/uncles?) Look into it.
DaveH
29th March 2008, 04:31 AM
It clearly doesn't look like any non-immediate family members count as "family" rather unfortunately. Would anyone be able to recommend me what to do next. I was phoned up today and told I can have a 12 month working holiday visa, but if that means I can't do full time work and look properly for a career than I may have to look for another alternative.
Cheers,
Dave
JandM
29th March 2008, 05:23 AM
This is advice from my son, who is in NZ. Go and stay with your relatives on a visitor visa. Then look around for work. When you're offered a job, apply for a Work To Residence visa from within the country. http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/work/ He says, when you're in the country, and somebody wants you as an employee, things get pushed through.
DaveH
29th March 2008, 11:47 PM
This is advice from my son, who is in NZ. Go and stay with your relatives on a visitor visa. Then look around for work. When you're offered a job, apply for a Work To Residence visa from within the country. http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/work/ He says, when you're in the country, and somebody wants you as an employee, things get pushed through.
Thanks, it looks like that's the best option for me right now. Now to start saving money and making sure I get everything sorted!
JandM
30th March 2008, 06:09 AM
All the best.:nice1
Zoenatcat
30th March 2008, 07:20 PM
Hi Dave
Advice would be to come over on a visitors visa, stay with your relatives and get a job. If you want to work - you will be able to get a job. There are loads of vacancies out there - just look at seek.co.nz for examples. Once you get the job offer you apply for the work visa (couple of weeks), then it is easy to apply for the PR. All costs though.... Immigration know how to charge! Good luck
Zoenatcat
DaveH
31st March 2008, 01:53 AM
Hi Dave
Advice would be to come over on a visitors visa, stay with your relatives and get a job. If you want to work - you will be able to get a job. There are loads of vacancies out there - just look at seek.co.nz for examples. Once you get the job offer you apply for the work visa (couple of weeks), then it is easy to apply for the PR. All costs though.... Immigration know how to charge! Good luck
Zoenatcat
Thanks, according to the immigration website I don't need a visa as I'm a UK citizen and can stay for up to six months. Does that mean literally turn up once I've got the money and look for jobs once I'm there? I thought it may be a bit harder than that.
Looks like I've still got to apply at least and provide evidence of funds (and, or) proof of sponsorship from once when I get there
JandM
31st March 2008, 02:09 AM
Thanks, according to the immigration website I don't need a visa as I'm a UK citizen and can stay for up to six months. Does that mean literally turn up once I've got the money and look for jobs once I'm there? I thought it may be a bit harder than that.
It's literally book your ticket, get on the plane, and arrive. They ask you when you land why you're there, and it's probably better to be tactful at that point and only say, 'I've come to see my aunty' (or whoever it is) - although some forum members have posted that they've said they want to get work and been allowed in, the official isn't supposed to be happy with that with no permit, but will happily stamp your passport with the six months' holiday visa. By the way, you'll have to have a return air ticket, as, allegedly, you're intending to leave the country at the end of your holiday, and nobody is supposed to have one-way tickets who hasn't got residency - you shouldn't be allowed on the aircraft in that case.
As has been said before, once you get a job offer, you apply for a WTR visa from within the country - then you'll have to go through all the stuff of police checks and medicals (details to be found on the NZ Immigration Service website).
DaveH
31st March 2008, 02:13 AM
Cheers guys you've been a great help in giving me advice and making everything seem much clearer. Not being much of a traveller in the past it's all been a bit confusing and your advice has been great. Can't wait till I get there :)
JandM
31st March 2008, 02:19 AM
Just seen your edit. You won't have sponsorship unless you have a parent or sibling already there and speaking up for you. Or unless you take up with a NZ citizen - and they couldn't sponsor you until the relationship had lasted 12 months or more. The proving you have funds (if you're on a visitor's visa) has never happened to any of our family - it CAN be demanded, but apparently doesn't happen if you arrive with a return ticket on one of the major airlines.
JandM
31st March 2008, 02:22 AM
This stuff is brain-crushing - you're not the only one to find it so.:)
DaveH
31st March 2008, 02:58 AM
Yeah it is really, but obviously worth it in the long term. Lets just hope I can find a job!
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