[StevieD]

Well, phone call this morning from our admin lady tells me that we are all being made redundant. What great news ahead of Anzac weekend!!

Big boss phoned me to confirm, but the lowdown is that we all now have to re-apply for our jobs and that we are all in limbo about what may come of it all.

Not the best of positions to be in, considering I have been off with my knee damage for a while now, just waiting for an operation, but not exactly a strong bargaining position.

Time will tell, and we'll just have to see what happens over the coming weeks.

As the saying goes **#* happens! :roll :roll :roll

[dilanium]

Fingers crossed for you!

[Moorf]

:( Sorry to hear your awful news Stevie... everything crossed that you're fit and back at work soon. x

[peebles16]

What a nightmare Stevie - hope the interview goes in your favour and the knee gets sorted soon :yes

Best of luck and keep us posted
Karenx

[ellenmelon]

to coin a rather overused phrase...stink :(
good luck with the interview x

[StevieD]

Ellen, I love that advert too!! "AAAhh stink", but yes, that just about sums it up, thanks for your wished everyone. xx

[jubjub]

Stevie, that sucks...

i hate it when I hear of companies doing that... it can make a pretty bad atmosphere too while the process is underway.

Hopefully your job will be safe...

[ellenmelon]

Ellen, I love that advert too!! "AAAhh stink", but yes, that just about sums it up, thanks for your wished everyone. xx

Hehe me too. It is a rather inclusive term to use when no other words seem adequate lol, and usually lightens the mood!

[zardell]

Awful news.

Thinking of you and wishing you well....

Julie

xx

[Lambuel+Ruby]

I'm so sorry to hear that.

One thought though, I work in HR in the US and I really hesitate to lay off anyone who is on family or medical leave. It can be misconstrued as punitive and get my company into all kinds of legal trouble.

I've no idea if there are similar exposures in your region, but could it be worth looking into?

Wishing you health and happiness!

[jackie m]

So sorry to hear that Stevie.

Fingers crossed from me too.

Jackie

[LesleyS]

Stevie...that sucks!!!!

[gil]

Hope it turns out as you want Stevie, fingers crossed,

Gil
x

[Kim39]

Holy Kakapuku mate, not exactly the news you want to hear as you say considering your plight at this moment. At least you have that elusive NZ work experience that will stand you in good stead at a later date if needed.


Kim

[StevieD]

I'm so sorry to hear that.

One thought though, I work in HR in the US and I really hesitate to lay off anyone who is on family or medical leave. It can be misconstrued as punitive and get my company into all kinds of legal trouble.

I've no idea if there are similar exposures in your region, but could it be worth looking into?

Wishing you health and happiness!


Thanks for that, but it isn't just me, the whole company has gone to the wall!!! We'll just have to wait and see... but thanks again to everyone.

Kim, what is this - holy kakapuku :laugh

I suppose I could apply for a position with the Hauraki crowd, maybe apply for the position of "on yer back man" and forge a new relationship with my sidekick "Throbbin" :laugh

[Jo Jo]

Awww, I'm sorry for your trouble, Stevie. Good luck with it all.

[granger]

I hope you get better news soon Stevie.

[Tia Maria]

Well, phone call this morning from our admin lady tells me that we are all being made redundant. What great news ahead of Anzac weekend!!

Big boss phoned me to confirm, but the lowdown is that we all now have to re-apply for our jobs and that we are all in limbo about what may come of it all.



Sorry to hear that!

Excuse my ignorance, but why do they make everyone redundant and then make you reapply? Why not pick those they want to let go?

Cheers

Tia

[Milliemoo]

Sorry to hear that!

Excuse my ignorance, but why do they make everyone redundant and then make you reapply? Why not pick those they want to let go?

Cheers

Tia

It's the job that's redundant, not the person. In theory. In reality, it's a good way to get rid of a few people and/or keep the rest on at a lesser salary by saying their job is redundant and then making them apply of a very similar position for less money.

Bitter? Moi?

Milliemoo

p.s My OH has just been made redundant to :uhoh ho hum

[Tia Maria]

It's the job that's redundant, not the person. In theory. In reality, it's a good way to get rid of a few people and/or keep the rest on at a lesser salary by saying their job is redundant and then making them apply of a very similar position for less money.

Bitter? Moi?

Milliemoo

p.s My OH has just been made redundant to :uhoh ho hum

So does that mean you go back to square one with things like holiday?

Cheers

Tia

[benandclare]

Bad luck Steve , hope things pick up for you soon

[StevieD]

Probably all those things and more re holidays etc.

It all stinks really, the company who have bought them out are a very big company, but like anything there is no guarantee of your job, and as mentioned, usually for less money than you were on.

Saying that, I have just looked at their website and they are advertising for positions much more suited to my background, didn't get an answer to my phone call but it is Anzac weekend, but will be on the phone to them Monday as soon as the "get the bullet" meeting is over.

[Milliemoo]

So does that mean you go back to square one with things like holiday?

Cheers

Tia

Shouldn't do....so long as you're continuously employed. It's things like 'career breaks' that can seriously mess with you're employment rights eg: pension, maternity benefits.

Milliemoo

[Steadybears]

Sorry Stevie - hope things work out well for you- we holding thumbs all works out for u all


Jayne

[StevieD]

Thanks Jayne and everyone else, bit of a crap day all round really, Jan just came home from work really upset too, not the nicest of atmospheres in the house at the moment.

[holland]

grrr...feel for you stevie and family...sometimes things just all seem to happen at once.

Hope your luck changes soon and a fab job is around the corner!

j x

[StevieD]

Thanks J. the support from this forum is, as always, superb :)

[holland]

Always nice to have somewhere to share things and vent isn't it!

Just been having a nosey at your blog! Must take you ages!

[Belmont Babes]

Hi Stevie,

Sorry about that news Mate. What a ******. Was about to call you tonight about BBQ. Is it still on?

[StevieD]

Always nice to have somewhere to share things and vent isn't it!

Just been having a nosey at your blog! Must take you ages!


What the blog?? Good job I can touch type isn't it :laugh:laugh

I got a lot more time on my hand now by the looks of it too - just sat out in the spa, looking up at the stars with a glass of wine, musing over things. I don't feel particularly bad, just determined that I going to get a better thing out of this. I don't expect to be down for long!

[StevieD]

Natalie, gizza shout.. pm'd the number in case you lost it.....

Hi Stevie,

Sorry about that news Mate. What a ******. Was about to call you tonight about BBQ. Is it still on?

[Bruckner]

I got a lot more time on my hand now by the looks of it too - just sat out in the spa, looking up at the stars with a glass of wine, musing over things. I don't feel particularly bad, just determined that I going to get a better thing out of this. I don't expect to be down for long!

Very true StevieD. When one door closes another door opens. There's something else out there for you and you'll find it!

Emily

[JandM]

Very true StevieD. When one door closes another door opens. There's something else out there for you and you'll find it!

Emily


That's the way. All the best to you and the family while you work through this.:cheers

[dusk]

ack, bad news. Best of luck with the process.

I was once made redundant 3 times in 3 years, twice by the same company! it sucks :yes but you can get through it and come out the other side! :D

[StevieD]

I love this forum, thanks everyone!! :)

[catt]

StevieD its pants while its happening. Think of it as an opportunity, grab it by the scruff of the neck, shake it, then come out the other side with something bigger and better. Good luck!!!!! :cheers

[holland]

;) Something good will come out of this EVERYTHING happens for a reason,having been were yoy are twice you will come through a better stronger person have faith

[StevieD]

:)

[vixxann]

to repeat many people already - what crappy news Steve :(

Hope things work out well for you in the end.. hope the beer bottle is surviving in the meanwhile :)

[StevieD]

hic!!! ;)

[smitjo]

Just seen your post...really sorry to hear your awful news :(
I know it must be a really difficult time for you all but like everyone else has said, you will come out of it stronger and I'm sure there is an even better job out there for you.
Keep you chin up and keep smiling

[andrewp]

that's not nice Stevie. Hang in there.

[JayBee]

Sorry to hear your news - this type of thing happens the world over and whatever line you're in these days and I know from experience what it feels like.
Fingers crossed that something good comes out of all this for you.

[slider]

:( Sorry to hear that Steve. Hope it all works out for you.
Does NZ not have an equivalent process to TUPE or is the role changing substantially (if you have been told what it is yet)?

[StevieD]

thanks everyone.

don't know yet slider, we only have a meeting coming Monday to lay out the facts for us.....

[Kerry and David]

Sorry Steve to hear your news, hope everthing works out.

K x

[vixxann]

Good grief Steve - did you get ANY sleep last night ;)

[themilkybarkid]

Stevie

I'm a bit late in replying here - sorry - you must have been a bit gutted. Only consolation is that it wasn't personal to do with you - it was everyone! But it certainly affects you all the same. Bad news - but good can come out of bad things.

Anyway you're a Scouser ... unemployment is our heritage!! LOL


All the best - one door closes another opens.

take care

MBK

[M&J]

That really is **** news, hope it all works out for you. Maybe see you at the BBQ thos afternoon. Do you know where they live?????

[AndyR]

Thats terrible dude! All my best wishes are with you for sorting out the situation and being back in work.

[StevieD]

1 Pohutukawa Drive, Pukete, Hamilton, look it up on SMAPS - here.

http://www.smaps.co.nz/nz/hamilton/pukete/pohutukawa+drive/

[StevieD]

Good grief Steve - did you get ANY sleep last night ;)


Not much Vicky, got up to go to the dawn Anzac day service, back home to pick Jan and Kieran up as he was involved with the Scouts in the later parade, he ended up taking a wreath up to the cenotaph with a few of the other little scouts. Very nice and very moving occasion. Just before he was due to go up a lone piper played the tune "The leaving of Liverpool" an old sea shanty, then one of the NZAF planes flew overhead. Good stuff.

[shakyle2906]

Sorry to hear your news StevieD

I hope something will come your way soon

Sharon
x

[DMcG]

I'm, fairly certain it's illegal to make everyone redundant as part of a restructure and then re-hire people back to do similar jobs.

This (http://www.emacentral.org.nz/nzte/restructuring_redundancy.asp) more or less says that.

Wait until you've got something in writing about their intentions, then contact the Department of Labour and ask them if what they're doing is legal. I would start job hunting anyway - I'm sure I wouldn't stick around with a company that valued it's work force so little.

Good luck! You never know where this might take you ... being made redundant brought me to New Zealand :D

Dougie

[willsken]

Sorry Steve I've only just seen this. What a horrible thing to happen. The best of luck on Monday with the meeting, I really hope things work out for you.

[StevieD]

I'm, fairly certain it's illegal to make everyone redundant as part of a restructure and then re-hire people back to do similar jobs.

This (http://www.emacentral.org.nz/nzte/restructuring_redundancy.asp) more or less says that.

Wait until you've got something in writing about their intentions, then contact the Department of Labour and ask them if what they're doing is legal. I would start job hunting anyway - I'm sure I wouldn't stick around with a company that valued it's work force so little.

Good luck! You never know where this might take you ... being made redundant brought me to New Zealand :D

Dougie


Thanks for the info Dougie, I'll have a trawl through the info when I get clearer information on Monday.

Nicola, no worries, as others have said, it may be a blessing in disguise. As it is, I am on ACC at the moment anyway, waiting for my knee operation so I at least have a fallback of sorts, not the best but better than a kick up the bum as you say.

:nice1 :nice1

[StevieD]

I also think I should clarify the situation, the company is going out of business and a bigger company has offered to buy it. I think that makes a big difference in it all....

[Leccy-Lee]

Sorry to hear about this Steve, i did hear when i was up your way, only just back online.

Been "laid-off" 3 times in UK, once was a huge shock coming into work and finding men in suits padlocking things up and told to "go home and find a new job sir". I feel for you.

[StevieD]

Thanks Lee, it does stink a bit.

It is amazing how companies can treat employees and more often than not get away scott free.

Time will tell anyway, until I find out the details I can't really get too excited!

[mgbridges]

Just back off hols and catching up with Forum news, so sorry to hear its bad news for you Stevie.

Good luck and hope it all comes good in the end.

Anneliese

[Cardy]

Hi Stevie just read this. I,m sure you will be ok look at how many jobs me and kim have found,:D It Does sound dodgy what there doing though.nearly as dodgy as what happened to bev, she got a new job put her notice in and then the supposed new employer rang her to say they had got bad references,
She only gave two ,her old job in england which we got a copy of and her present employer who denies giving bad reference, End result bev becomes unem,ployed and we checked and had no legal redress. luckily as her present employer was feeling guilty we reckon she was offered an extra six weeks work and has now got another job and we certainly arent using her present employer for references,:( anyway good luck mate i,m sure something will turn up
cardy:nice1

[StevieD]

Hi Stevie just read this. I,m sure you will be ok look at how many jobs me and kim have found,:D It Does sound dodgy what there doing though.nearly as dodgy as what happened to bev, she got a new job put her notice in and then the supposed new employer rang her to say they had got bad references,
She only gave two ,her old job in england which we got a copy of and her present employer who denies giving bad reference, End result bev becomes unem,ployed and we checked and had no legal redress. luckily as her present employer was feeling guilty we reckon she was offered an extra six weeks work and has now got another job and we certainly arent using her present employer for references,:( anyway good luck mate i,m sure something will turn up
cardy:nice1


Thanks Paul, in the meantime, any odd jobs need doing by a tradesman with a gammy knee :laugh

[mossum]

how horrible for you !

Paul's company did this at the start of the year & it was stressful - we naively hope that there would be none of this here as we've been through it a time or 3 back in the UK .

Vic

[StevieD]

Yes Vicky, it does stink a bit! Got a meeting in the morning, getting collected by the secretary and going to learn our fate from the horses mouth.

Mixed feelings on it. Not exactly surprised, saw some signs over Xmas that things weren't quite right. Anyway, we'll see......

Steve

[thezorbster]

Only just read this Stevie so sorry to hear the news. Hope all works out well for you.

[Carol]

Same here Steve....... anything on the horizon?

[Kim39]

Question Steve: how is your ACC affected by this as the company no longer exists, which means there isn't a levy being paid for your injury by the company. Also does the same apply for the operation?


Kim

[StevieD]

Question Steve: how is your ACC affected by this as the company no longer exists, which means there isn't a levy being paid for your injury by the company. Also does the same apply for the operation?


Kim

Pass, will ask them this tomorrow!!

Just had the meeting, they looking at us all applying for our jobs, very quickly mind because our branch is the last one to have been seen by the management. They want it all sorted by next week. I guess it will just have to be a case of wait and see...

[katandbob]

hi steve, just got my laptop back, good luck for the meeting - or has it happened?

bit mussed on the days, as I am busy packing for our trip to old blighty

but i am sure that you'll be ok

cheers from down south

[bob_the_engineer]

Dam it eh SteveD, what a pain.

If you end up needing a job (and can move to Welly) give me a shout, I know where there are quite a few going.

Bob

[Carol]

Dam it eh SteveD, what a pain.

If you end up needing a job (and can move to Welly) give me a shout, I know where there are quite a few going.

Bob
and I know where a rental is about to be re-launched in Whitby!
;-)

[Jennispink]

Horrible news,

Hope it all turns out to be for the best in the long run. Everything happens for a reason is one of my most over used phrases!

[Moorf]

Hope your meeting went well StevieD... :nice1

[Steadybears]

Shame cant stop thinking of you and your family - if you needing abed and some grub - we can help out anytime

Surely they have had the meeting by now - I keep checking to see if you have heard anything. Hope it goes well
Jayne

[StevieD]

Thanks Jayne, aren't people so lovely on here!!!

Had the meeting yesterday morning. We have to re-apply for our jobs, new bigger company taking over. The gist of the meeting was that they don't have any technicians with our experience in this area, they are taking over the current contracts that the existing company service, so things could be promising. I have already put my expression of interest form in and sent my CV off to HR as soon as I got home from the office.

Now we'll just have to wait and see what goes......

Thanks to everyone for your care and consideration, it really is a great help.