[ddz]

Hi all,
I read the NZIS web site and I didn't understand the requirements for getting a work visa.
Is it possible to get a work visa without having a job offer?
Why companies asks me a working visa if I can't get it without their job offer?
It seems to be a conditional loop...how it is possible?

Thanks for your attention,

ddz

[veronica]

I think (but I am not certain) that if you are in NZ and apply for a job you can get a work visa if you are offered the job. If you are applying over the internet through agencies it is more difficult as they are not too keen to shortlist someone who hasn't got a visa. If your job is in the shortages list then you have more chance of getting a visa easily but again most of the companies would want some form of interview, whether in NZ or over the phone. Best I can do to help and that is just from what I have gathered from reading other peoples posts.

[wilson182]

If you are the primary applicant you cannot get a work visa without a job offer. I know some people have got offers without being in NZ, but I think this is quite hard. The best way to get a job offer is to arrange a visit to NZ for interviews. It will show the companies you apply to that you are serious in your intentions of moving to NZ. Applying through agencies is more difficult, and I'm sure I've read posts of people who wont be considered until they have PR.

IMHO I think if you haven't been to NZ before this is the better way to go, cause, as some people have discovered, NZ is not the place for everyone.

[ddz]

Hi and thanks for your answers.
Indeed, my plan is to go in NZ under the work holiday scheme and then try to have some job interviews. But before the job interview I will never have a work visa so how it is possible that they ask me something that I can't have before?

I was thinking to contact via e-mails some companies before my departure and tell them when I will be in NZ and if it is possible to arrange a job interview if they are interested in my profile.

Do you think it's a good strategy to have "something" before arriving there?

Thanks for your help,

Ddz

[wilson182]

More than likely, it may depend on what you do. Hubby is a welder which is on the shortage list, and we took a chance and didn't arrange any interviews until we got there.

It may be worth noting that a lot of companies don't completely understand the immigration process. They may be aware that you need a work permit, but not understand that you can't get one until you have an offer.

Good luck :hopeso

[daventi]

Hi ddz. My hubby is a bricklayer and contacted construction companies via e-mail with his cv attached.There was no way at the time, we could take time off to apply in person.Anyway 2 weeks later we recieved a phone call from a company saying they were interested.We recieved a contract of employment and used this to apply for our visa.Maybe trying it this way could be an option before flying out there.You never know you might be successful.Which ever way you go about it, i wish you all the best. :yes Bev :hopeso :hopeso

[veronica]

At the moment tradesmen/women are something NZ is really short of.
ddz what line of work are you in because that will make a real difference to your chances of getting work.

[Dave & Sandra]

Ddz

Line up some interviews before you get here and then once you have a job offer :hopeso go to immigration and apply for a work visa with your offer of employment and qualifications.

[ddz]

Hi all and thanks everybody for your answers.
I just started sending e-mails and I had a phone interview with an nz employer. He told me that he is very interested in my profile but his request of approval in principle has been denied. Anyway he genuinely searched for someone in NZ but he didn't find the ideal candidate.
His job is temporary and in the Information Technology sector.

I read this on the nzis website:

http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/work/worktemporarily/caniworkinnz/whatisrequired/

You need to:

have a job offer from a New Zealand employer who can prove there are no suitable New Zealand workers available for the job

The employer assured me he can prove it because he advertised that position for different months.
So it is possible that I can be hired if the employer doesn't have the approval in principle but he still can prove that he didn't find anyone suitable for the position offered?

In this case, will I get the work visa or permit?

Thanks again,
ddz

[Dave & Sandra]

Yes.

The same thing happened to Dave. His employer proved to NZIS that they had advertised the job but had no suitable applications from Kiwis so he was given a work visa

[veronica]

As I understand it the work permit is put in your passport if you are outside the country and the work visa is activated once you enter the country. so it won't matter which it is if I have that right.

[ddz]

Yes.

The same thing happened to Dave. His employer proved to NZIS that they had advertised the job but had no suitable applications from Kiwis so he was given a work visa

Hi,
just a question: Did the employer of Dave had the approval in principle?

Because in my case, my potential employer doesn't have it.
Thanks
Ddz

[Dave & Sandra]

Hi Ddz

I presume you mean - are they an accredited employer, so they don't have to get permission to employ a non-resident.

No, Dave's company are not accredited and had to provide proof that they had advertised the job over a long period.

[veronica]

ddz what line of work are you in.

[ddz]

Hi Ddz

I presume you mean - are they an accredited employer, so they don't have to get permission to employ a non-resident.

No, Dave's company are not accredited and had to provide proof that they had advertised the job over a long period.

I see. IMHO, my case seems to be the same because my potential employer is not accredited and doesn't have the approval in principle but can prove he advertised the job offer for different months.

But I phoned the nz embassy here and they told that to get a work visa it is mandatory that the nz employer has got an approval in principle!!
They told me to read the NZIS web site but I read it and there is another "condition" where the approval in principle is not even mentioned. This condition was the one I pasted in the previous post.
But anyway "they" don't know about it... So I just don't know what do in this case unless I go to embassy and _I_ show them what is wrote on the NZIS web site!

Thanks anyway,
ddz

[ddz]

ddz what line of work are you in.

Hi Veronica, I'm sorry if I didn't answer u before. The job is in the Information Technology field. I checked the short and long term shortage skills in this field but my particular position is not listed.

Ddz

[veronica]

Shame because that makes it that much harder. Was hoping for you that it was something obscure that NZ was short of.