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mikewalkerfrom
22nd May 2008, 09:24 PM
Hi All!

I thought I'd drop a message as I've slipped out of sight for a couple of months. Sorry its a bit of a long one, feel free to fall asleep :roll

We’ve been in Chch for almost 5 weeks now and our feet are just touching the ground. When we landed we moved straight into a fully furnished holiday home for 3 weeks (great move as we have a 1 and a 3 year old).

In the first 2 weeks we managed to get our bank accounts set up, bought a car, I got a job (in my second week now and all’s going well), we found a new(ish) townhouse to rent for 6 months that’s warm and has double glazing etc, and we got our 3 year old into a good preschool which he started this week. Busy busy busy.

The weekends have been great fun exploring. And the fun is cheap. 10 minutes to the beach. Parks everywhere, Hagley park is great for running, feeding the ducks etc.

Some initial observations (in no particular order)

1. The food is MUCH better in NZ, you can actually taste vegetables. Nearly all the veges in the supermarket are local too (i.e. grown in NZ) – you have to go out of your way to find veges from overseas.

2. The cost of living is quite high (although we’re working on that as our cupboards slowly fill up with all the things we left behind – your first couple of months are always going to be more expensive). Our food budget is $250 a week, and we’re currently on about $320 - $340. We found a butcher where we can get all our weeks meat for $25 – That’s 4 chicken breasts, 500gm of casserole steak, 6 sausages and 2x300gm packs of mince. Finding cheap veges is next…

3. Nappies are REALLY expensive in NZ. It’s criminal!

4. You still have to deal with Indian call centers…. ggggrrrrrrr

5. The customer service is outstanding. Banks, telecom, even the car dealer I bought our car off was brilliant (the test drive was an hour long showing us all the southern suburbs)

6. NZ drivers take a bit of getting used to. Muppets with loud exhausts and the give way rule sucks…

7. Children and baby facilities are much better than the UK . The parks are bigger and more fun – having said that you do see kids over here with broken arms etc a hell of a lot more than the UK ….

8. Time with my kids. I no longer spend 1.5 > 2 hours in a car a day. I get another 45 minutes with my kids in the morning, and another 30 minutes in the evening. Priceless.

9. We’re about 10 minutes to the beach and New Brighton Pier which we love. The longest beach, hardly any people on it, with a great café. My son loves drawing in the sand with sticks and chasing the waves in and out. He can run and run and run which makes me so proud. There’s so much space.

10. Allied Pickfords removals were brilliant. One broken glass desert bowl. And the container was early which meant we had to really get a move on finding somewhere to live. Top marks. And they met the lowest quote with no argument (£3014 by memory)

11. $400 MAF bill. I thought it was steep until I saw how many boxes they’d opened. I stopped counting at 30. I think they opened around 40 boxes. I’d budgeted for $450 so I wasn’t overly concerned. We have lots of outdoors stuff.

12. The weather is pretty good. 4 days rain in the last month.

13. Hells pizza with kumera chips is the best Friday night meal going (IMO). Take a look at https://www.hell.co.nz/index.jsp?city=Christchurch&p=false

14. Coffee in NZ is brilliant

15. Overseas calls are cheap. Telecom NZ does an overseas calling package for $45 a month for 6000 minutes. That’s about 3 x 1 hour calls per day, per month. You may be able to get it cheaper using calling cards, but it wont be by much…

16. The TV is suprisingly good.... we have 5 main channels in Chch (plus a few odd ball ones... There a christian surfing channel (as in hang 10 dude not web surfing)... VERY odd)

17. And last... things are much more relaxed.

So everything’s going well so far. I think we’ve been really lucky, and have worked hard for the rest. Not too many home-sickness boughts as yet, but its early days. Now it’s just about getting into a happy routine and getting through the winter. I cant wait to take my kids to the snow for a days play.

We’ll start looking for a house in 6 months time if the circumstances look good, but we’re under no pressure. The NZ dollar is starting to slip, NZ house prices are starting to slowly dip, and a couple of banks have even dropped their mortgage rates!

I‘d like to thank everyone on this forum who posted ideas, experiences and shortcuts. You guys have made our move so much easier. We knew pretty much what to expect right from the start, so our expectations have “been managed”

Thanks to Stuart and Pip for the house warming plant and fudge which we’re still eating!

Mike

nippa&pippa
22nd May 2008, 09:33 PM
welcome to christchurch :clap fab place for kids isn't?!

Nappies, I agree with you, that why my baby is using cloth nappies, very cheap!:clap

Keep practice on food budget, it will come down once you know what in seasons etc. Look at The money diet post for more tips.

Have you see the paddling pools yet in hagley park? brilliant

mikewalkerfrom
22nd May 2008, 09:49 PM
We're about 10 minutes walk to Hagley. We were watching remote control sail boats there last weekend and feeding the ducks. It's one of the best parks I've been in. Like a smaller Hyde park but without the people :yes

Having said that there are so many good parks here!

peebles16
22nd May 2008, 09:58 PM
What a great post and good to hear your settling in :) We were in a motel just next to Hagley Park for the first 3 weeks and my kids spent most days there - loved it :D
Totaly agree on the nappy thing my youngest is in pull-ups just at night and ridiculously expensive :yes Our weekly shopping budget has actaully come down a wee bit week on week as we get used to being here and I also think we spent a lot buying essential 'cupboard stuff' or things you always had lurking around initially so it all adds up.

Hope you keep enjoying and keep us posted
Karenx

Moorf
22nd May 2008, 10:00 PM
Welcome to Canterbury :nice1 glad you're enjoying life - hopefully you weren't the shocked-looking family that watched as our dogs decided to, errm, scatter the ducks at the pond where the remote boats are usually sailed :uhoh:exit

Pip
22nd May 2008, 10:08 PM
Hey - no worries! I just feel bad we ended up staying so late chatting (where did the time go!) -you must have been shattered!

Really glad that you're settling in and looks like the snow is on the way for a lot of the resorts judging by some footage on the news tonight. :D

Sophia (nippa & pippa) is preparing me for trying out ' real nappies', and I've stockpiled quite a few packets of disposables whilst I was still earning, so hopefully the cost won't be too much of a shock. Failing that, I guess I'll be using the babys 10K of luggage allowance to bring back nappies from the UK! :D

hope to see you soon, assuming we're not on the 'undesirable list' for outstaying our welcome. :D Kev will confirm, I'm not usually known for my late night socialising and often found to be tucked up in bed by 10:30pm with a book and a mug of milo!

benandclare
22nd May 2008, 10:09 PM
Hi Mike, sounds like you're having a whale of a time....... and a new dump of snow on those mountains for the skiing :clap:clap

Welcome to Christchurch :clap

mikewalkerfrom
22nd May 2008, 10:10 PM
Nope, it wasn't us Moorf. My 3 year old is usually the one scattering the dogs! It'll be nice to catch up with a few of you at the next Christchurch meet.

It's strange being this side of the fence time zone wise. The people who usually replied immediately are on there way to work, and the people who usually replied the next day are online!

JayBee
22nd May 2008, 10:27 PM
Great post - and well done on the job so soon:clap
Tried Hell's pizza and kumara chips when we visited NZ- mmmmm!!!! Mind you I think I was beginning to develop a kumara addiction, love it!

Look forward to more updates.

Rusty
22nd May 2008, 10:40 PM
Sounds like all is going well. Makes me jealous as I just want to get there now.
What part of ChCh are you in? Near Nth Brighton sounds like it's near where we are looking at, Parklands?

Red Devil
22nd May 2008, 11:41 PM
Hi Mike

What a great post, look forward to more future updates... we've fallen for Christchurch also and OH hopes to land a nursing position there around November/December of this year, so we very much appreciated your views and comments.

Chuckled when we read your comment about the parks being so much bigger and more fun... our son commented something similar and he's only 5 years of age :D... in fact don't think we came across a bad park in the whole of NZ, they really do know how to cater for children and young families.

Like I say, keep us updated... look forward to your "3 months in" post :)

Pebbles
23rd May 2008, 01:23 AM
Great post, Mike! :clap
We will be out there in 4 weeks time. I needed reminding that things will work out fine. You've put my mind at rest for now.

Are all overseas telephone costs that cheap or is it a special rate for UK, US etc?

stephenandjulie
23rd May 2008, 08:04 AM
Welcome to Christchurch. Sounds like you are having a good time and all going to plan.
stephenandjulie

napiers
23rd May 2008, 08:24 AM
Great to see such a positive, but practical, first post. Glad you're all settling in well.

slider
23rd May 2008, 08:30 AM
A very comprehensive, balanced post.:nice1
Sounds like you're settling in very well

IanW99
23rd May 2008, 08:33 AM
Great post, Mike! :clap
We will be out there in 4 weeks time. I needed reminding that things will work out fine. You've put my mind at rest for now.

Are all overseas telephone costs that cheap or is it a special rate for UK, US etc?

This is the telecom deal:-
Talk It Up New Zealand and Overseas
From your home phone call any landline in New Zealand, Australia, USA, Canada, UK, Ireland, China*, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Malaysia and Singapore and talk for up to 2 hours per call for the flat fee of $45 per month. A maximum monthly allowance of 6000 minutes applies. Your usual Homeline or Anytime monthly plan charges also apply.
*excludes Macau

If you talk on the phone alot then this may be a good deal, otherwise I would suggest looking into services such as SkypeOut.

Ian

Joanne100
23rd May 2008, 09:41 AM
Welcome to Christchurch Mike and Family :raebanana

Your post was spot on, and it only took u 3 weeks to figure it all out amazing, hope to meet u all soon.

Joanne & Family

djchicane
23rd May 2008, 12:09 PM
fab post! I echo pretty much all your comments, don't have any kids though :)

I have been here 4 weeks now myself, and just dumped the rental car back, so off for a wander into town to buy a car!

Living just off Bealey Avenue, in a peaceful block. Is there a meet coming up soon?

Cheers,

Dave

Moorf
23rd May 2008, 12:42 PM
Lots of newbies in Chch - a meet is definitely in order..... I'm completely snowed under at the moment with work but name a date and time and we'll be there :yes

mikewalkerfrom
23rd May 2008, 07:36 PM
I think a weekend late lunch meet is in order somehow! Anyone know of a place big enough for coffee, meals (if anyone wants one) and kids?

We're living in a street off Bealy ave and Papanui rd. It's very close to the middle of the city so it only takes me 20 minutes to walk to work in Hereford St (7 minutes on my bike!). It still only takes us 10 minutes to get to Brighton beach in the weekend. You can get anywhere here quite quickly

I honestly think the reason we got sorted so quickly is because of this forum. I got so many shortcuts from other peoples experiences. I saved a lot of time, money and hassel. Knowing what to expect gives you such a lot of power and confidence.

I'll definately do a 3 month email.

Dinner time! Fish pie and a beer :raebanana

Red Devil
23rd May 2008, 07:36 PM
... an organised meet for January 2009 will be good :D (if our plans materialise for us) :nice1

dusk
24th May 2008, 08:42 AM
glad to hear you and your family aer settling in so well! best of luck for the future

benandclare
24th May 2008, 09:54 AM
Ok thought I'd get the ball rolling for a meet.

How about June 21st and does anybody know how big the Museum cafe is for a possible venue ?

Say around 1 ish?

Ben

PS Red Devil, sure we'll be having one in Jan 2009 too :cheers

dilanium
24th May 2008, 10:57 AM
Great Post. Glad to hear everything is going so well!

Moorf
24th May 2008, 01:20 PM
Ok thought I'd get the ball rolling for a meet.

How about June 21st and does anybody know how big the Museum cafe is for a possible venue ?

Say around 1 ish?

Ben

PS Red Devil, sure we'll be having one in Jan 2009 too :cheers

June 21st is MidWinter Christmas so I'm afraid we'll probably have people staying or be away...

migratory birds
25th May 2008, 12:40 AM
Great post - glad to hear you're doing so well!

On scattering ducks, saw a couple of younger boys(7-9 yrs old) throwing rocks at ducks in the water a few years ago. Grrr! I asked if those were their scooters over by the playground? Yes, they said. I told them there were some ducks taking off on them. Their jaws dropped, eyes bugged out and off they ran (AWAY from the ducks - yes!) to retrieve their scooters from the DUCKS! :nice1

What's the "give-way rule"? I blew that one when I was driving in NZ a few months ago! Never did quite understand it...and I heard about it with horn toots as I drove right by!

Is that the one where you must yield to cars turning left? In certain business districts, is it? And, is it, only at intersections without traffic signals?

StevieD
25th May 2008, 12:54 AM
Mike, just caught up with your post, but had an op so been a bit fuzzy last couple of days. Good post and welcome to NZ.

Bozeman
25th May 2008, 04:38 AM
Nice post! We land in Christchurch ourselves on June 2. Thanks to this forum we have a holiday home lined up and are feeling less stressed out than would have been the case otherwise.

stephenandjulie
25th May 2008, 08:25 AM
Ok thought I'd get the ball rolling for a meet.

How about June 21st and does anybody know how big the Museum cafe is for a possible venue ?

Say around 1 ish?

Ben

PS Red Devil, sure we'll be having one in Jan 2009 too :cheers

Hey Ben

You like to keep busy. Isn't the 21st the big rugby day?

Good idea though for a meet, very central.

Julie

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