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KelvinAng
24th June 2008, 10:10 PM
Last year, 29 July 2007, I submitted my EOI online with 115 points and no job offer. A few days later on 1 August, it was selected. On 12 November an email came from my EOI officer (Bangkok branch) bringing the good news that my EOI has a "Decision Successful" status, and four days later the ITA documents arrived in my Inbox. I was thrilled.

Off I went to gather my qualifications and courier them to NZQA on 10 December. Applied for the Singapore police certificate on 21 December, received it two weeks later on 4 January 2008. Knowing that NZQA would take approximately three months to process my qualification, based on the experience of others on this forum, I waited till 13 February to do my medicals. Got the full report by 18th, but still no sign of the NZQA report.

It finally arrived on 6th March 2008 but it was not good news. My Bachelor of Science (Computer Science with Business) degree from the Open University, UK, is graded as a Level 6 instead of the expected Level 7. NZQA reasoned that I do not have enough Level 3 and above computer science module credits for it to be awarded a Level 7, being a non-Honours degree and the fact that I did a Business minor. I was gutted! Being an IT professional I require a Level 7 grading in order to receive points for work experience, and without these points in work experience I have only 90 (30 for age under 30 years old, 50 for a Level 6 qualification, and 10 for general work experience). The application was on its way to being dropped. It wouldn't even be returned to the EOI pool.

A search on this forum found that Jane (Lara Croft) has exactly the same problem with NZQA and her Computer Science degree from the Open Uni, and after exchanging a few messages with her she encouraged me and suggest I give it a try by coming to New Zealand to look for a job. It was really an ultimatum... I packed up, quit my job and left Singapore within two weeks, on 16 March.

Two weeks after arriving New Zealand (first Auckland, then Christchurch), I received two job offers in Christchurch - my city of choice in New Zealand - and accepted one of them. Posted my ITA sometime mid-April. While my residency was being considered, I applied for a work permit so that I can start work with the company. Based on the experience of others on this forum I've assumed that with a job now in the list of long term shortage list, applying for my residency would be a walk in the park. Dropped off my application and started to arrange for my belongings to be shipped over. Got my New Zealand driving license (both car and motorcycle) and bought a scooter, heater, stereo... and was looking out for a good deal on a nice motorbike and a car. You know... big boy's toys.

Then came the bad news. It appears that my contract of 6 months was deem insufficient to be considered "sustainable employment". My application would be declined unless I can get another contract or job.

But as luck would have it, a few days before I receive that letter from Immigration, my company offered me permanent employment. I was told it was a rare move on the part of the company because (1) my contract of 6 months has just begun, and (2) permanent contract in an IT role is a rare offer in New Zealand. I happily updated Immigration with my new contract, and this time kept my fingers crossed.

The next letter that came from soul destroying. In a nutshell, my Case Officer acknowledged that my job is a permanent role in the list of long-term skills shortages, and is located outside of Auckland (hence supposedly qualifies for additional bonus points), but because I do not have a Level 7 certificate OR 5 years of prior working experience in a related field (based on the recent changes to Immigration selection criteria), I cannot claim *any* points at all with regards to this employment!

I wrote back, requesting for double confirmation as I firmly believed I would qualify based on the experience of others here, and was met with a stern reply saying that the points calculation is correct. As it stood I had only 90 points, and unless I can provide a Level 7 certification, or show evidence of 5 years of related work experience, I will be unable to meet the requirements and my application will "most likely be unsuccessful".

I was only able to prove 4 years and 9 months of IT-related work, as one of the companies where I worked for almost two years had a change in management and the new management ignored my three requests over the past 6 months for a testimonial, and that I was unable to prove my employment with them - no pay slips, no bank statements, not even tax returns as my pay back then was below taxation requirement.

At this point in time I was extremely tired with going to-and-fro with my Case Officer in the last two months. She wasn't particularly responsive to emails and when she does respond it was always a canned reply. By this time I basically accepted the idea that I will not be granted residency and was debating with myself whether I should head back to Singapore upon the expiry of my work permit, or to renew it when the time comes. Or to consider other options like Work to Residence permit, or perhaps to try for residency again after a year since by then I would have the experience required, and to treat this experience as a very expensive lesson. I've been here for 3 months now and I do miss my family however, I miss Singapore's food, and the winter here isn't helping. If I decide to return to Singapore, I better start to sell off my toys on Trade Me. And my recently-imported computer that cost a few hundy just to ship it. A lot of conflicting, confusing thoughts are going through my head.

I now hold in my cold little hands, a letter from my Case Officer saying my application is approved in principle. Just arrived. I read it three times. It also says I have 155 points and that I should be making my payment for Migrant Levy before December.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry, but I'm very, very glad that the one-year roller coaster ride has finally come to an end.

:cheers to this wonderful community, especially to Jane who is very encouraging and generous in sharing her own experience with me in PMs.

:raebanana:raebanana:raebanana

Red Devil
24th June 2008, 10:23 PM
Wow... what a rollercoaster ride, time to unbuckle the seat belt :eek:

So pleased to read the good news at the end of your post... fantastic news :cheers

Best of luck settling in and hope everything works out for you, keep us posted :nice1

benhila
24th June 2008, 10:23 PM
These are great news and just show that sometimes hitting your head against the wall actually can shatter the bricks (although I can't start imagining the resulting headache....). Now at long last you can go on with your life and live your dream! :cheers

Hila

Jo Jo
24th June 2008, 10:27 PM
Oh, congratulations - that's wonderful news.

:raebanana:raebanana:raebanana

Mels
24th June 2008, 10:37 PM
What an amazing story. Many congratulations:cheers

:raebanana:raebanana:raebanana

Mels

cappuccino
24th June 2008, 10:49 PM
I'm pleased it has all worked out for you in the end. :nice1
Just goes to show how we all need to stay strong and positive throughout this roller coaster immigration lark.

slider
24th June 2008, 11:11 PM
Congratulations and well done. :raebanana:raebanana
Your persistence has really paid off, and it was good to hear how the support from the forum helped you through the process.
Next stop Christchurch :nice1

benandclare
24th June 2008, 11:21 PM
Wow what a story........ so glad it's all worked out for you.

Hope you can make it to the meet on sat for a celebratory muffin :yes:yes

Beetle
24th June 2008, 11:56 PM
Congratulations KelvinAng !!! :cheers What a great news...!!!

/Jini

KelvinAng
24th June 2008, 11:59 PM
Thanks everybody :cheers

Thanks for the invite Ben. Afraid I've gotta give it a miss at the moment! Hopefully I can join in the next meet or something.

To anyone who's in the process of applying for residency... keep at it, even if it looks like it might not work out! I went from being really positive about it, to being really disappointed about it, and am glad it turns out fine in the end. Here's hoping the letter I received is not sent in error... I better keep my fingers crossed until that blue sticker is firmly stuck onto my passport!

peebles16
25th June 2008, 12:05 AM
Can't imagine how you must be feeling KelvinAng after all you've been through but, blooming heck, well done for seeing it through :clap

Congrats on finally getting what you so obviously deserve and have some more :raebanana:raebanana:raebanana

Karenx

JandM
25th June 2008, 12:21 AM
:raebanana:cheers:raebanana

dusk
25th June 2008, 01:57 AM
blimey, that's a ride and a half! many congratulations on finally getting your PR granted, sounds like you deserve it :D

Best of luck with life in NZ ;)

andrewp
25th June 2008, 02:09 AM
Wow KelvinAng. What a story and what awesome news.

yossarian
25th June 2008, 03:57 AM
congratulations kelvin! :)

thewoodies
25th June 2008, 04:23 AM
what amount of stress must you have gone through :clap:cheers:raebanana

ricktee
25th June 2008, 06:02 AM
That was an inspiring story. I'm glad it had a happy ending.

Leanne
25th June 2008, 07:09 AM
I was stressed just reading your post. I can't imagine how it must have been actually living it. I'm so happy that it all worked out in the end!
:raebanana:raebanana:raebanana:raebanana

CJ22
25th June 2008, 10:05 AM
Great news Kelvin. Well done for seeing it through to the bitter end.

Scotty69
25th June 2008, 12:17 PM
Congratulations
:raebanana:raebanana:raebanana:raebanana

KelvinAng
25th June 2008, 04:38 PM
Thank you, everybody! :clap

xanctus
25th June 2008, 05:06 PM
Whoa man, that is a long journey indeed...
but Congratulations on your approval...

If I were you, I don't know if I'd stayed here...hahaha

dilanium
25th June 2008, 06:03 PM
Congratulations, glad it worked out for you!

Lara Croft
25th June 2008, 06:42 PM
Hi there!
I haven't logged into the Forum for ages, and this is the first message I saw today.... great news - well done :clap

I'm really pleased it's all finally sorted out for you. Take care,

Jane

benrus
26th June 2008, 06:24 PM
Congratulations Kelvin :clap.. Your post is very inspiring and really a good motivation for us not to lose hope and to just keep believing in our dream. :cheers

doowrehsij
26th June 2008, 10:20 PM
KelvinAng - sounds like a bit of a journey.. but at least you've come good. Hang in there if you've only been there 3 months. Winter is a depressing time wherever you are, so if you slog through it, you'll come out of the blues period and will be better for it. I think any place takes 6mnths - 1 year to feel like home.

M-Squared
26th June 2008, 10:25 PM
Oh wow what a post/thread! And please DON'T DO THAT with the subject line!!! :laugh I thought it was going to be an unhappy ending. I'm SO pleased I was wrong! :D :nice1 Many many congratulations! :)

KelvinAng
27th June 2008, 02:20 AM
Perhaps I should have titled it "The Beginning of a New Journey" :D

Dropped my passport with a bank cheque for the Migrant Levy into the applications box in Christchurch office today. I'm still a bit surprised with the idea that I was on my way to being declined but received positive news... Until my passport returns with the elusive blue sticker I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

My landlady is organising a little "Welcome to NZ" dinner/party for me this weekend. We're having roast lamb and pavlova. I've even started a little, err... beer appreciation :D (I'm not a beer person but actually find Steinlager Pure to be pretty good!)

I'm looking forward to Spring. I've always wanted to see Lake Tekapo in Spring and there's no better way to do it than a ChCh-Tekapo motorbike ride. It will be awesome.

Thanks again everyone :cheers

fuhsiang
14th July 2008, 03:34 AM
congrats from me as well!!! It's always refreshing to read testimonials for newbies like me.

Kiwi-In-Texas
14th July 2008, 04:45 AM
What a great story with a happy ending. Congratulations.

nickydwuk
14th July 2008, 06:15 AM
What an inspiration - lesser people would have given up. Well done. See you in Chch.:nice1

JandL
14th July 2008, 09:25 AM
Wow, that's a story and a-half. Well done to you!!! How did they come up with the new points if you dont mind me asking?

Belmont Babes
14th July 2008, 11:09 AM
Yeah I am intrigued about the points too....but doesn't matter now hey! Hats off to you K, what a fab story. :cheers

KelvinAng
14th July 2008, 09:55 PM
Thanks again, everybody!

Frankly I've got no idea. From what I can work out, based on the new selection criteria (either Level 7 degree, OR 5 years of related work experience, in order to claim points of job offer in long term skills shortage list), strictly speaking I would not have qualified. I can only provide evidence of 4 years and 9 months, and I've explained to my case officer that I cannot prove a further 2 years of work experience as that company has changed management and the new management ignored my 3 requests over the past 6 months for a testimonial. It was for a job in 2002-2004 and I have no other records (no pay slips, not even tax returns as my pay then was tax-free).

However at the point of approval, I would have an additional 3 months work experience with the company in Christchurch. In other words, should they reject me and I make a fresh new application immediately, I would certainly qualify.

I'm guessing here that Immigration approves of the application based on my current situation, and that they believe that I indeed have two years of work experience that I've been unable to prove which would have otherwise made the application a breeze. I believe they might have been lenient with me... or had applied "common sense" to the situation. When I first arrived and was opening a bank account, the application form asks me for details of my other family members or friends in NZ... to which I have none (well, I have acquaintance here but I don't know them terribly well to associate my opening of bank account with their name and address on the application form). I left that section blank, the lady at the bank asked me why I left it blank and I explained, and she accepted my explanation and opened the account without fuss. That section was marked on the form as a compulsory section to fill up.

In any case I'm truly glad that it's all over and all that pushing against a brick wall paid off after all. I'm also intrigued by how the final calculation of 155 points came about, but I'm not going to argue about it!

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