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lockstock
22nd September 2008, 08:58 PM
Seething:mad:


When I resigned from my teaching job a couple of months (long story) to take a term off and reassess the situation, OH decided he would look for a full time job to keep us going. He applied for a job with a well-known organisation whose responsibilty it is to return wayward folk to the straight and narrow. He was sent an info pack the size of a volume of the Encyclopaedia Britannica and asked to fill in an application for plus send his CV. Just after the closing date they phoned him to say he had an interview and they would confirm this in writing. They did.

OH went to the offices to see how the set up was and spoke at length with the Organgrinder. He liked what he saw. A week or so later he was interviewed but before they offered him the job, they asked him if he preferred part-time Saturdays or full-time Saturdays. Now, OH is a cricket freak and didn't like the idea of all his Saturdays being taken up so he told them that he wouldn't mind doing Saturday every so often if he could swap a day in the week.

What week? they asked. This is a Saturday job.
That's not what the advert says - OH shows advert neatly clipped from the Waikato Times.
Oh sorry there's been a mistake. They put the wrong ad in. Never mind Mr Lockstock - do you still want the job?
Two words, second one 'off'. (Not really, but you get the picture.)

Last week Mr Organgrinder phones up to say there is now a 4 day/week permanent job would OH be interested.
Yes of course.
OK we'll get back to you?

They phoned today to say they've given the job to the 'other' bloke. Hope that's ok. OH said he thought he'd been offered the job. Oh no, there was never a job offer, just checking to see if he was interested.

We are devasted. It's been over two months since the first non-existent job was advertised, and now this. OH has given notice to the school thinking he could start work asap. Now there's no job anywhere.

OK, so we should have waited til there was something in writing but having been interviewed and then called back with a better job, you'd have thought it was a pretty safe bet.

Are we talking total incompetence here or just pure lack of consideration?

JoJo76
22nd September 2008, 09:04 PM
That's shocking! What an awful way to treat someone :-(

Hope he finds something better soon.

NZ Hopeful
22nd September 2008, 09:20 PM
What a shambles, I would say it's more incompetence than lack of consideration. :(

And this company help wayward people?! What hope have they got! :eek:

M-Squared
22nd September 2008, 09:21 PM
^^ agreed. I guess the moral of this story is not to hand in your notice until you have the signed contract in your hands. :( I hope something else shows up soon!

JandM
22nd September 2008, 09:25 PM
^^From me, too.

buzztalks
22nd September 2008, 09:38 PM
having been here for 14 months, and encountered various :mad: situations, I have come to the conclusion that there is a percentage element of the NZ experience that is 'un-reconstructed'. Putting a high-spec printer cartridge into a major named franchise for re-filling, and having it come back worse than when it went in, complete with a strip of brown parcel tape over the drum, would serve as an example.

(Thanks Cartridge World - Kilbirnie).....

This sounds like 'un-reconstructed' recruitment of the highest order.

lockstock
22nd September 2008, 09:41 PM
And this company help wayward people?! What hope have they got! :eek:


er, did I mention it was a government dept?

Cardy
22nd September 2008, 10:03 PM
my other half mrs cardy had a good part time job,wanted to swap to full time ,got interview got job offer verbally ,put in notice then got phone call from new employer sorry your not suitable,!!!! Old employer wouldnt take back notice so she became unemploted with no redress whatsoever. Always get it in writing before giving in your notice is my advice but then they can probably still fob you off,luckily i have a good job so it wasnt so much of a struggle but still not very pleasant.

NikT
22nd September 2008, 10:37 PM
er, did I mention it was a government dept?

Ah, that explains it.:exit

I'm sure something will turn up.:)

Nick.:cheers

Leccy-Lee
22nd September 2008, 10:52 PM
Blimey thats sounds terrible Gilly :(

benandclare
22nd September 2008, 11:48 PM
What a bummer :mad::mad:

Philip10
23rd September 2008, 12:24 AM
I guess on the up side Gilly your are lucking not to to be working for such a crap department

NZ Hopeful
23rd September 2008, 04:57 AM
er, did I mention it was a government dept?

Definately incompetance then! :exit

Mrs Pony
23rd September 2008, 07:36 AM
yikes! Sounds like something I went though when I was looking for a place to buy! Offers back and forth... then someone else got it... that fell though so they called me back... put in my offer and they went with someone else... :(

You'll get it sorted!

dilanium
23rd September 2008, 08:32 AM
:(

dusk
23rd September 2008, 08:50 AM
bad luck. hope things work out soon for you both

jubjub
23rd September 2008, 08:53 AM
that sucks, I would take legal advice, if you want to take it further. apparently a verbal job offer can form a contract. a friend of ours just had the same situation, was verbally offered a contract after interview, but no start date... so he spoke them weekly, no probs they said, so he sold his business.... no start date ever came forward and he was eventually told there wasnt a job there at all.

pinkpiggy
23rd September 2008, 07:05 PM
Oh Gilly I'm so sorry. Sam told me the 'good news' on Friday after the cricket and I thought at long last something was going right for you. I'd feel exactly the same. Was going to ring you this week so will try and ring you tonight.

Flutterby
24th September 2008, 07:40 AM
i would have earmarked them incompetant after the discovery that the advert was incorrect and not looked back. It seems that some people in this world just like to mess you around, no matter what country you live in.

lockstock
24th September 2008, 09:30 AM
i would have earmarked them incompetant after the discovery that the advert was incorrect and not looked back. It seems that some people in this world just like to mess you around, no matter what country you live in.


We did but didn't anticipate the phone call with the job 'offer' two weeks later. It did seem at the time like they were acknowledging the error. Job=money=staying in New Zealand, yes?

Tia Maria
24th September 2008, 02:09 PM
I guess on the up side Gilly your are lucking not to to be working for such a crap department

Good point!

The OH has just finished the whole job hunting thing and was amazed at how long some companies took with the interview process and how casual some were. He got a couple of offers after he'd finally accepted a position, they'd obviously expected him to just hang around waiting for them to get their act together.

Hope it all works out.

Cheers

Tia

JasonS
24th September 2008, 02:58 PM
Good point!

The OH has just finished the whole job hunting thing and was amazed at how long some companies took with the interview process and how casual some were. He got a couple of offers after he'd finally accepted a position, they'd obviously expected him to just hang around waiting for them to get their act together.





gee, you are not kidding of how slow some companies can be...:uhoh

i just received a "thanks, but no thanks" rejection letter the other day to a job i applied for back in early july. luckily, i have excepted another position and was not waiting around for this job. i had pretty much forgotten all about it.

laurel

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