[ant7jen]

I need to make the next step on moving me, my wife, and 11 year old daughter to New Zealand. We have all talked about it and decided to go for it. I find alot of this stuff confusing to read sometimes. I have been reading every night for the last 6 weeks and my brain is fried! I wish there was a simple way to migrate to NZ!

I have already hit a roadblock. I have 13 years experience in printing and is on the Immediate skills shortage list, but I have no degree!:wah
I am too old to get a Holiday Visa by one year. (36) Now, I need to decide which route to take.

This was listed on this site http://www.new-zealand-immigration.com/Self_assessment/Recognised_qualification.php

Other Trade qualifications not listed below require assessment by the NZQA.
• Aeronautical Engineering Craft Studies
• Agricultural Mechanics
• Bakery
• Brickwork
• Carpentry and Joinery
• Cooking for the Catering Industry
• Electronics Servicing
• Electrical Installation Work
• Engineering Craft Studies
• Fabrication and Welding Engineering Craft
Studies
• Furniture Craft Studies
• Gas fitting
• Hairdressing
• Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning
• Instrument Fitting
• Machine Woodworking
• Masonry
• Mechanical Engineering Craft Studies
• Mechanical Engineering Maintenance
• Motor Vehicle Craft Studies
• Motor Vehicle Craft Studies (Light Vehicles,
Heavy Vehicles, Vehicle Electricians, Fuel
Injection Equipment Mechanics)
• Painting and Decorating
• Plumbing
• Printing:bluebanana
• Radio, Television and Electronics
• Refrigeration and Air-Conditioning
• Sheet Metal and Thin Plate Craft Studies
• Structural and Thick Plate Craft Studies
• Yacht and Boat Building Craft Studies

Also on the site, it says printing is a skill that is in demand in NZ. Kinda confused on what to do since I have no degree or certificate. I read somewhere on the NZQA that my job is a level 3. What does that mean? Also, does it mean anything without a degree?

[Spooky]

Hi, I will feebly try to help but there are others who can offer more information...:)

As far as I am aware, you do not need to have a degree. What the degree does is to give you more points in your EOI lodging to increase your chances of meeting the required minimum points. You can also claim EOI points for having 10 years of related work experience and the relevance of your work experience to the shortage you have identified. Your employer's letter will also help verify the relevance and scope of the work you have done to help NZIS decide if what you claim (in your EOI) can be corroborated.

As for NZQA and job level, I am not sure about your case...but I am sure someone else will come along soon to answer that.

[ant7jen]

Thanks spooky. Added some good points to your reputation.:nice1

A forgot to mention that my wife has a private investigtors license here in the US and would be open to do it in NZ, but I don't think she would make much there unless we lived in a very populted town which we are trying to avoid. Would like some peice and quiet but not true isolation. She was a banker and does not plan on doing it again but you never know. She presently works part time aside from doing her private investigating as an executive assistant (personal secretary). I assume she could apply for a business permit but again, I don't see her bringing in a steady income like I would in printing. Does NZ question your income if you have a buisness of your own? Is there a minimum of income you have to make to be a PR?

[udang]

To score points for qualification in the skilled migrant category, my understanding is that NZIS needs to assess some sort of qualification as a starting point. A qualification can be academic such as a degree, diploma, certificate etc. issued by an institution. It can also be a professionally accredited title in some special trades or industries, accorded by renowned or recognized bodies. If such qualification is not in the NZIS list, then assessment by NZQA is necessary. NZQA does qualification assessment thus requires a qualification to assess. I believe a job or work experience alone cannot be assessed for qualification. So, from my perspective, not too good news for your "qualification".

However there are other points you can claim such as your age, work experience, immediate skill shortage list, family support in NZ etc. Try the "points indicator" in NZIS website to see how many points you can get. If you are able to collect enough points without an NZ recognized qualification, you may as well just forget to worry the whole thing about getting your qualification assessed because you don't need one and still can get an NZ PR.

[BodaciousBean]

Hi there,

I will also do my best to help. :laugh

You can apply and claim your work experience BUT, you cannot claim any BONUS points without a degree. Fill an EOI just for reference and see how many points you and your wife end up with. I cannot remember if I read this but did your wife receive a degree? If so, you can claim those bonus points for her when you do all her info on the EOI, which will add more points.

You MAY end up having to do a NZQA but I am not an expert on that. I did not have to do one say and a little fuzzy with the NZQA.

Hope this helps and good luck with the plans.:nice1

[victoria24]

I'm sure I read on the new combined lists today that printers don't need qualifications and that experience would suffice of which you have plenty!

[benrus]

I have similar case.. 15 years of work experience in IT but without a degree. I only have diploma in industrial electronics. I still decided to send whatever qualifications and work certificates I have to NZQA. However, I only managed to get Level4 from NZQA comparable to National Certificate in Electronic Engineering. I was hoping that they will recognize my work experience in IT and give me higher assessment but it never materialized. Having Leve4 assessment by NZQA still meet the minimum requirement of recognized qualification by NZIS. I submitted our EOI and managed to get ITA.
My advise is for you is to just go for it....we may encounter some obstacles but there will always be a way to overcome it....good luck....:)

[osmyth]

In my case I have decided to do the NZQA bit first, and if given the level i'm hoping for it should give me enough points on the EOI without a job offer. Also, we're not in a rush as we have a young baby.

If you're in a rush then the EOI and possibly trying to get a job offer may be a better route.

[ant7jen]

Guys, thank you
thank you
thank you
for the help. :)

Be on the lookout because I may have some more questions. Honestly, I find a lot of these terms and terminology confusing but I do try to understand and interpret it in laymans terms. My wife, thankfully has the brains of the family. But I did tell het I would take care of the paperwork so she wouldnt have to do everything. lol

[ant7jen]

OK, I just saw this and wanted to share


3923 - Printers
Printers set up and operate letterpress, lithographic, flexographic, gravure, newspaper, instant, digital and offset printing presses.

Tasks

setting, adjusting and monitoring substrate-feed mechanisms, delivery mechanisms, inking systems and other printing machine functions
mixing ink and solvents to standard, and regulating paper and ink supply during print runs
monitoring, evaluating and determining press operations manually and by computer to check print quality standards against proofs and detect malfunctions
producing a variety of printed products using relief, lithographic, flexographic and gravure printing presses, and in-line finishing systems
preparing plates, blankets and impression cylinders on small offset lithographic printing presses
loading paper into feeding mechanisms
monitoring machine operations and quality of printing
undertaking maintenance, adjustment, repair and cleaning of machines
producing and managing digital print images, and transferring and outputting images
may set up and operate paper and bookbinding guillotines
Specialisations

392311 Printing Machinist
Flexographic Printing Machinist
Label Printing Machinist
Letterpress Printing Machinist
Reel Fed Printer
Sheet Fed Printer
392312 Small Offset Printer
Digital Printer
Minimum Requirements

ANZSCO Skill Level 3
If the above ANZSCO code 3923 for Printer is your current occupation then you have a very good chance of qualifying for a skilled New Zealand visa.:raebanana


If I have a job offer, more points, right?
If I read right, I can apply for PR after working in NZ for 3 months under the Skilled Migrant Category?

[Hejwitch_uk]

Can't help much with the current questions, but wanted to say welcome, and wish you all the best for the process - it is daunting, but you get there in the end, especially with the help you'll receive via this forum. Good luck! :D

[ant7jen]

OK, I feel that I have to go with NZQA for the first step. But all I have to give them is my word and that's it. The last thing I want to do is to pay NZQA and tell me that I dont have no paperwork to back up my qualifications. I feel like im in a pickle.

[icemaiden]

You'll definitely need more than your word for NZQA. Don't waste your money if you don't have the paper to back up what you are telling them. Can't you get your employers to back up your work experience? That would seem the best way, other than getting yourself a job first then applying for residency. Good luck with it all.

[ant7jen]

If I could, I would get a job in NZ but I hope it is not too hard. I will never know unless I try.

I think I should get my work experience from my employer and send it to NZQA. Then if everything goes good, I will try to go and apply for PR.