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BkyMonster
14th October 2008, 02:59 PM
Dogs are finally here and we are happy to have them. The larger one was mad at us and wouldn't look at us when we got them at the airport to take them back to ChCh. He soon forgave us when we let him out of his carrier. :)
Pethaven was wonderful. I highly recommend them. Both dogs came back a bit skinnier but that is probably due to their eating habits conflicting with Pethaven's feeding habits. The larger one needed to lose a bit of weight and the smaller one only really picks at food throughout the day anyhow.

I have so much I want to talk about so I'll try to divide this into topics so I don't ramble too much ;)

The 3 big cities:
We thought we would end up in Welly but after going there really didn't care for it. We didn't like how it is laid out a bit like an octopus with a commute necessary to get between the major suburbs. We thought the cost of living would be too high just with the gas necessary to combat the wind and get around. We also had a really hard time finding internet access (though our hotel advertised it did not deliver. It was a dreadful motel in Lower Hutt/Petone. DePont.) and so though we were there for a week we weren't able to really job hunt at all. We ended up going to the Library in Porirura (really nice) every time we wanted to check the internet. We didn't think we would like Auckland but it grew on us. It was overwhelming at first but after going back a second time it isn't as big as it seems. Once you learn some major roads it isn't as bad to navigate as we first thought. I don't care as much for the weather and my husband developed some allergies as there is more pollen up there than in ChCh. So we ended up in Christchurch and we like it for the ease of getting around, there is so much conveinient shopping, and it is really pedestrian friendly compared to what we saw of the other cities. The bus system is great. I highly recommend using the bus and possibly even getting a metrocard (discounts the price of bus fare and automatically deducts from the card) even if you are on a visit. Unfortunately the buses were on strike in Welly when we were there so no way to compare. As for the ChCh smog/haze.... it doesn't hold a candle to what we used to see in Oregon or California. I'm sure it gets worse in fall when logburners start going, but it really isn't that bad. It is just worse than other places in NZ. So far we have only seen it from the tops of hills.

Housing:
We first stayed with some friends parents in Bucklands Beach. They are fairly well off and retired. The house was a little cold but not so bad. We then moved from motel to motel (the worst being the one in Welly, and we didn't see any in the Lower Hutt area that looked much better :no) and the best by far being the Arena in ChCh.
Once my OH had secured his job offer and work permit (more on that in a bit) we started looking for a place that would take our dogs. Harcourts was quite helpful and if we hadn't found a private landlord through HomeAds with cheaper houses that would allow dogs we would have gone with them.
We want to live as cheaply as possible so we can replenish our savings and buy a house. The low price from Harcourts for dog friendly houses was about 290/wk. This was a bit more than we had planned to spend but still doable. We found one place for 180/wk but it was a unit and shared walls, a yard and a laundry line. The layout was a bit questionable as well. The one we ended up with is 230/wk and a small house with a yard near a park. The house, however, is 100+ years old. This is good and bad. The good is that there is none of this modern room to room flow nonsense that can make heating difficult. There are distinct living areas and doors to keep the heat in each area. We live in the large kitchen which gets all day sun. If we are still here in winter we will probably move into the lounge with the log burner. The bad is that...well it is 100 years old. Things are a bit funky. wires go along the wall not through them and who knows about insulation if any. There isn't a foundation (which seems optional here in any case) and the floor slopes alarmingly in some areas.
We have Power manager power via merdian I think. It is neat as you can see what is sucking down the power and adjust accordingly. We have to take the card down to a bakery down the street to put more money on it, but i gather that Meridian also has an online viewing service for the power as well if you don't have a card. We hope to use about 80 a month.
Our oven uses 80c/hour. We bought a 5 fin oil heater---50c+ an hour! The water heater is a bit unavoidable at 30 something c per hour when it is heating. And def get energy efficient lightbulbs! We have a 100w outside and if we leave it on by accident it can suck down a dollar or two over night!
So to save power we are doing the following:
Not using the oven. The stovetop is fine as we only use up to 2 burners at a time. I plan on getting a slow cooker and already have a breadmaker. This is far more economical than using the oven.
No oil fin heater. we found a little blower type heater that is much cheaper to use.
We also invested in a warm mattress pad, a good duvet inner and a coverlet type blanket for under the duvet. Despite 0 and -1C temperatures a bit ago we were just fine in our unheated bedroom all night. it will probably get colder come winter but I think adding more blankets and warm pyjamas is a better and more economical option for us than heating the room or electric blankets.

Shopping:
Go to stores often if you need things. There are sales on all the time for ridiculous amounts off. $100 duvet cover for $20, 20-50% off is common on stuff. For food I recommend buying bulk of course. I loooove my local BinnInn. I'm so far getting my meat at Pak and Save (along with other assorted things) and vegetables/fruit from Raewards (which is a SI only chain I think?). I have yet to check out the Funky Pumpkin for veggies and The Mad Butcher for meat prices. Not super impressed with what I've seen in thrift like Salvation Army stores but have gotten some good deals off TradeMe. You do have to hunt a bit to get something below the average going rate on TM but it is possible. We did buy our computer chairs from a used/new furniture store for a good deal. Prices are exorbitant new! Some things are cheaper or about the same as what we are used to. For example, printers, computer peripherals. Other things are a lot more expensive, appliances especially microwaves and computer games.
I'm a little sad that finding black beans is a bit difficult. I found some at BinnInn but they were about $6 kg. I'm used to about 60c USD per pound.I guess that would be about 2.20 NZd per kg? ..but then beans like that are kind of a mexican product so it is understandable.
We are having a hard time finding anything decently spicy. I bought some pepper--spicy capsicum? seeds and am trying and kind of failing to grow them. Until then we have some Siracha sauce. The vegetables taste great. I can't get over this. veggies in the US are size over flavor and as such are somewhat nutritionally empty. Rice is a little harder to find...or I should say brown rice. My huband is miffed over the absence of Doritos corn chips but is making do with penguin flavored potato chips for now. Not penguin FLAVORED...but uh penguin brand flavored...

If you want something and don't like the price shop around. You will probably find it for cheaper somewhere else. Also each store in a chain kind of has its own stuff. Not all Warehouses/Briscoes etc have the same items so check around for that as well.

Dog kibble is expensive but dog rolls are cheap. Not sure how to manage a dog roll or how much to feed the dogs really. It kind of seems like its similar to canned food in the US but is denser and meatier with less...well juice. It looks like ground up pressed meat stuff. They like it fine and for now I am mixing. We have a local pet shop that sells dog meat and bones for fairly cheap so I may try that. I haven't yet had a look for things for them to chew so we will see.

....more below

BkyMonster
14th October 2008, 03:00 PM
Finding work:
My Oh had an interview lined up in ChCh before we left. We thought he had another maybe job offer in Lower Hutt as well but they filled it I guess as they didn't get back to us when we were there. A lot of companies didn't want to talk to him until he was here and as such we put off looking too much more until we got here. Once we got here he went to the ChCh interview and then we went up to Welly. We had the intention of looking for work and interviewing up there but reliable internet (with nearby power for the laptops for more than 2 hours of searching at a time) was so hard to come by that this wasn't really an option for us. There wasn't any Esquires that we could find and Starbucks paypage didn't work for us and Robert Harris didn't either. :( Our hotel which had advertised an internet cafe and wireless had...get this... one internet terminal in the front office with a coffee vending machine next to it. At $2 per 15 minutes we gave up that idea. The wireless wasn't really working either. We got 1kps or something stupid.
so anyhow, my Oh was offered the job in ChCh and he decided he really liked it so he took that one before we had too much of a chance to look for other work. So I think it was 2 weeks from arrival to job acceptance? We went into the ChCh immigration office in the morning and were done about 45 minutes after they opened. I don't have a partnership work permit yet. I guess that office is really backed up and they said it could take 9 months. If not too much goes wrong with the PR we should have that long before.
Our PR is now fast tracked so we'll see how that goes...

The pay is a bit low but they renegotiate in 3 months and we don't need that much to live on really. So we will see.

My job prospects are fairly non-existent. I would like to find *something* but as I have no work permit and I haven't even found something advertised in which I am qualified I don't have high hopes. I can't get a retail job as I don't have a work permit and there are no jobs I've seen for Micro/molecular biologists that don't require some kind of blood handling certificate or something, so I'll just be a SAHM of dogs for now.


Other stuff:
We discovered early on that you probably shouldn't run around in a black baseball cap and a hoody. This is pretty normal get up for my OH along with jeans and converse but we got a lot of really funny looks. No more cap, no more funny looks. For the first few weeks I felt really out of place. Most of the women here have much shorter hair (mine is shoulder length) and kiwi fashion is distinctly different than west coast US. Kind of a bit 80's in a way. I usually run a bit scruffy to keep people from looking at me/asking for money, but I felt a lot scruffy even in my better clothes. I felt a bit awkward wearing sneakers when all other females are wearing high heels and or boots. I got over that though and I suspect it was just a bit of culture shock. People can't really tell how old we are as we don't have the sun damage ot the face that the average person our age does. We are a bit old I think actually as NZ has a much younger population than the US.
Kiwi men don't talk on the phone well. Most conversations (with landlord, trademe etc) have consisted of grunts and long silences on their end. Just fine and usually very friendly in person, not good on the phone.
I feel a bit like my personal space is being invaded when in the queue at stores.
Kids are more respectful here so far. I got shoved out of the way at the airport baggage claim by some kids and it turned out they were american children. Pretty common in the US to get pushed around by younger (under 12) kids at aquariums and museums so they can be in front of you.
Kids are also everywhere here. Playing and out with parents and doing stuff. It's nice.
People have had a hard time placing our accent. Gotten a few guesses of canadians (which one man said was said to avoid calling canadians americans, and thus offending them haha) and a few UK (??) and a few North Island (???). Its interesting as we don't have enough of an accent in the US for other US people to notice, but here it is different enough from the TV accent that it confuses people.

Rental cars;
Omega treated us really well in several cities and they also recommended Go! rentals to us in ChCh which was good too.
Both Apex (Auckland) and Jucy/EZY (ChCh) gave us manuals without asking!! My OH can drive them but still, seems a little dangerous. You don't really notice until you've signed off and gotten in the car. Apex in ChCh was nice, but they were pretty bad at Auckland airport.

Things that we would do differently?

Know where we were going. We spent a lot of money checking out the different cities. Buying a car earlier would have been a good idea as well. A large part of our expenses was travel and finding out where to live. Hotels at 80-90/night and rental cars at 30/40 day add up. The flights were cheaper than that. Our big mistake was trying to get motels that had internet in them. Don't bother I think because they are probably being sneaky about it. If it is an issue call them up and see what they really have. Otherwise, libraries and coffee shops are your internet friends. We have actually stolen a few mbs of peoples unsecured wireless as well. :uhoh:

Buy a prepaid credit card. I wasn't expecting to have to use a credit card as much. I had to put hotels and other online bookings on it when I would have rather used eftpos or bank transfers. Now we have to pay that off and it is in the US so that will be annoying.
Shipped more and packed less. Packing around luggage wasn't really fun. we put half of it in storage in Auckland. Of course I'm happy to have the stuff but I could have done without it for another week or so until our shipped stuff arrives.

Things we would do the same/would recommend.
Get a prepaid NZ phone number. very useful and handy.
Do invest in a gps if you will be driving. Reaaally helpful when you don't know a city.
Have a laptop...but maybe not 2 :D they can get heavy!
When you want something soon after winning a trademe auction...pay in cash. Bank transfers take a bit longer than I thought. We were waiting a few days for our fridge because of this.



I think that is about it for now.
As of posting this we finally have our own internet. Yay.

dharder
14th October 2008, 04:20 PM
People can't really tell how old we are as we don't have the sun damage ot the face that the average person our age does.

I find this, too :) And I constantly am on the verge of exclaiming 'REALLY? She's just xy? Looks MUCH older!', but am usually managing to keep myself in check...

Thanks for the update, :)

Daniela

Sam B
14th October 2008, 05:56 PM
Great update - you sound like you have gone native already with your attention to detail over prices, bargains etc. Hope it all works out for you.

peebles16
14th October 2008, 06:10 PM
Great update Becky and give me a shout if you want to chat about lab jobs as OH may be able to offer a bit of advice :nice1

Karenx

swissmissdesigner
14th October 2008, 06:13 PM
excellent post!
and
wish you good luck..

IanW99
14th October 2008, 09:05 PM
...
We thought we would end up in Welly but after going there really didn't care for it. We didn't like how it is laid out a bit like an octopus with a commute necessary to get between the major suburbs. We thought the cost of living would be too high just with the gas necessary to combat the wind and get around. We also had a really hard time finding internet access (though our hotel advertised it did not deliver. It was a dreadful motel in Lower Hutt/Petone. DePont.) and so though we were there for a week we weren't able to really job hunt at all. We ended up going to the Library in Porirura (really nice) every time we wanted to check the internet...

...When you want something soon after winning a trademe auction...pay in cash. Bank transfers take a bit longer than I thought. We were waiting a few days for our fridge because of this.
...


Not sure why you couldn't locate any esquire coffee shops as there is one in Porirua not far from the library. If anyone else needs the locations then Esquire store locations (http://www.esquires.co.nz/store/locator/index) should help.

For the paying trademe, what kind of bank transfer were you doing, AFAIK, most banks can pay a trademe sale immediately and would certainly be easier / quicker than using cash. For example, with ASB you can use "fast cheque".

Ian

BkyMonster
14th October 2008, 09:09 PM
Actually the one in Porirua was nowhere to be seen. That is actually how we found the library--looking for the esquires. There was another coffee shop but they were without wireless, alas.
The bank transfers I was doing just took a couple days for the payments to show up in the sellers accounts is all. On the Westpac site there is an option to pay anyone and is even suggests trademe payments. I just found that the sellers were not getting the money as fast as I wanted to pick up the stuff is all.

The locals in a Dick Smiths actually told us the one in Courtenay Place didn't do internet (though i see the website says it has it) so we didn't go looking for that one.

IanW99
14th October 2008, 09:13 PM
Actually the one in Porirua was nowhere to be seen. That is actually how we found the library--looking for the esquires. There was another coffee shop but they were without wireless, alas.
The bank transfers I was doing just took a couple days for the payments to show up in the sellers accounts is all. On the Westpac site there is an option to pay anyone and is even suggests trademe payments. I just found that the sellers were not getting the money as fast as I wanted to pick up the stuff is all.

If you went into the North City mall in Porirua then I would bet money that you walked straight past it. It isn't a shop, it is actually in the middle of one of the malls.

Ian

TaoCoyote
14th October 2008, 09:23 PM
I'll bet you money that we did not, unless it was tucked away inside a store. The streets are rather twisty there and we probably missed the area it is in. The internet works quite well at the library though, and the coffee in their cafe was quite good. :)

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