[Aug & Feb]

Hi everyone here,

I am new to this forum. I have been reading all postings with great interest and enjoyment. The sense of humour and fun here are simply great!! Learn quite a fair bit from many of the wise folks here. Thank you for sharing. We feel less lonely.... :P

Hope you all could help us with these questions:- :no

Background
(I) My husband is the principal applicant.
(II) We were recently interviewed.
(III) The officer said that he may grant us work to residency 2 years (although we hope and pray for PR approval in principle instead of WTR :hopeso )

Questions:-
(1) If we receive WTR 2 years (although I am not the principal applicant) and if I move to NZ by myself first, find a job and achieve the 3 months and $45K requirement, can I obtain PR for my whole family ? :eek

(2) How to increase the likelihood of NZIS granting PR instead of WTR 2 years ? :wah


Thanks :mrgreen:

[Diny]

Hi Aug & Feb. Sorry I can't help with your questons because I didn't go down that route to obtain PR.

There's plenty of people on here that will be able to help, I just wanted to say 'Welcome to the forum'.

Diny

[Lil]

Sorry can't help much either, but hello and welcome. Malaysia is my favourite country in the whole world - odd that I'm moving to NZ in a few weeks, but could not resist a brief stopover in Malaysia on the way. Where in Malaysia are you?

Since you've already had your interview, I'd say there was nothing more you could do to improve your chances of PR. I have not heard so far of anyone on any of the forums I frequent who has not got PR. So I'm afraid it's all down to prayers and fingers crossed for the next few days.

:hopeso :hopeso

[voth30]

Hi Aug and Feb,

Welcome to the forum especially from someone from this part of the world.

I am in the same situation as yourself, that is we had the face to face interview last week in Singapore and the case officer mentioned that there is 2 possibilities now - either a WTR or a straight PR. As Lil has mentioned, there is nothing you can do now but just keep your fingers cross and hope for the best.

As for the second question on whether you can re apply for PR if you are not the principal applicant, the answer is yes. According to my case officer, there is a group of immigration officers in different parts of NZ called "Keep in Touch" who will be helping you to settle in when you first step onto NZ ground. If any of the applicant, that is you in this case, get a job offer ahead of the principal applicant, the "Keep in Touch" team has the authority to issue the PR directly.

Hope this help. PM me if you need any help.

Vincent from Singapore

[Aug & Feb]

Thanks everybody for your encouraging replies. We guess we just have to wait for NZIS' decision....... :angel :hopeso :hopeso :hopeso

Diny, thanks for the warm welcome :P

Lil, very happy to know that Malaysia is your favourite country. We're from Johor, the southern state of Malaysia. :yes

Vincent, it is really nice to know you from this part of the world. :mrgreen: Thanks for your warm welcome and helpful information. We will PM you. Wish you the best outcome from your recent interview. :hopeso :hopeso :nice1

[jesselyn]

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welcome to the forum!

all the best,
jes

[xanctus]

welcome aboard..

[pandanleave]

Hi All

I have just registered but I have been reading all the forum topics and have found that most of the information shared to be very helpful (except for the "can I survive on $XXX pa?" questions)

Hi Vincent: I too had my face-face interview in Mar 05 in Singapore with the Thai Branch. Have you a job offer or do you intend to retire here? I have been blessed with 2 job offers just before the interview with NZIS and have accepted one and they mentioned that they would expedite the process of PR or a Work Permit if that PR process takes too long. I hope to be in Auckland by late Apr05 and commence work Mid May 05. Lots of logistic to handle at the moment!! :oops:

[Aug & Feb]

Congratulations Pandan Leave, you will get a positive reply fron NZIS soon !!

Which profession are you in ?
Did you apply for these 2 jobs via emails and telephone or did you travel to NZ and stayed there to seek for jobs ? If you travel to NZ, how long did you stay ?



:cheers :raebanana

[pandanleave]

I am a traffic engineer which is in shortage in NZ. Interview was carried out over the phone while I was in Singapore. Thank God I did not need to fly to NZ for an interview. :clap

[ToadFish]

Traffic and transportation engineers are in such short supply that I have a job offer in that field, after two telephone interviews never having been to NZ before. And I haven't worked in that industry for 8 years having been seduced into IT after graduating as a civil engineer. We were already in the queue for PR based on Toadfish as principle applicant so the job offer speeded everything up and got us both PR straight off.

Recommendation is that anyone in civil engineering and in particular transportation should get their CV into the NZ systems because the 'no visa no job offer' doesn't seem to apply to this field in the current climate.

Good luck
Ruth

[pandanleave]

Hi Toadfish

Were you offered the PR during the interview? (Same date stated).

I am currently awaiting the recommendation by NZIS. PR or WP (Accredited Employer). Seem to be taking quite some time taking into account that I had my interview on 7 Mar 05.

Toadfish: what were the subsequent adminstratives activities required after you were informed that you would be offered PR? Did these take long?

Thanks for sharing

[evelien]

Pandanleave wrote: [quote]
I have just registered but I have been reading all the forum topics and have found that most of the information shared to be very helpful (except for the "can I survive on $XXX pa?" questions)

:uhoh
Just out of curiosity. How come you're not interested in 'can I survive on $xxxx' issues?

Are you so rich? You don't need money to buy food? You eat thin air and scenery? You get my point.

Don't mean to be rude. It really puzzles me!

[pandanleave]

:uhoh
Just out of curiosity. How come you're not interested in 'can I survive on $xxxx' issues?

Are you so rich? You don't need money to buy food? You eat thin air and scenery? You get my point.

Don't mean to be rude. It really puzzles me![/quote]


No. I am certainly not rich. Neither would I be getting a huge paycheck. Just that the response that question is so varied. Some claim that they can bearly surviving on a 100K salary while others say they can for 60K. So I dont know what to make of it. Mmmm ... I may have given the impression that I was boasting ... ....oh dear :uhoh ....I am not. Sorry if I had given you (and others reading) such an impression :oops:

[evelien]

Hi Pandanleave, and others of course,

IMHO those cost issues with all the varying answers and experiences of people are very valuable. I noticed that there is a big difference when being there with or without children.

Furthermore, the cases all vary. To some you can relate more than to others. I think it gives an overall view and presents different perspectives. In my personal situation it would not be a good idea to move to New Zealand. Others, I know, did go and are happy and in the right place. Good for them. For you: good luck with decision making!

Cheers :nice1

[pandanleave]

[quote="evelien"] Thanks Evelien.

You got kids too? Why is it not suitable to go NZ yet for you if you dont mind me asking?

[evelien]

Hi Pandanleave,

I've got 2 kids (13 & 15 years). The outdoors life would indeed be great from them, but there are other aspects to the matter. I lived in NZ when I was 5 years old. Returned to Holland when I was 9. I have a brother and a sister 5 and 7 years older than me.

I was to young then to have an opinion on this, but both my brother and sister say they were never really accepted by the NZ-kids. Were called 'dubble-dutch' and such things. I heard it from other immigrants also. In Australia more than in NZ, but it does excist in NZ.

For me personally there is another reason. My youngest has severe learning difficulties. In NZ special needs education is basically not comparable with the Dutch system. And more important: it stops when the child is 20. There are no institutions like here.

So she would be completely dependent on us for the rest of her life. What happens when we die prematurely (accident, dicease ???). She will be on her own literally on the other side of the globe. In Holland she has other family members and a social system which will take care of her.

But that's not really the answer to your question.

I meant kids in relation to the cost aspect of living in NZ. I went to NZ in November 2004. I did a lot of research, talked to people, agents, read newspapers. My conclusion is that the wages are low in comparison to the costs of a family. My point is that if you can both work full-time and do not have to feed and provide for children, I believe living in NZ can be very comfortable. However, when you have a family, all your costs increase. Housing, food, scholing, you name it. And you have the same amount of money to spend, probably less, if one of you does not work full-time. I visited a Dutch family with 4 kids (13 - 18 years). Their annual income was 120,000. They lived a life according to our Dutch standards. And they could hardly afford it. They couldn't save much for lesser times.

I also believe that the average standard of living is very poor compared to what we are used to. What I have seen of kiwi households is a very poor standard of living.

If I was 25 and had no kids I would definately take the chance and go for the adventure. Now, in my current situation I will stay here in Holland and spend my money abroad. In NZ but also in a lot of other beautiful places.
Cheers!

[pandanleave]

Hi evelien

Your decision not to go to NZ because of your child is a good, important and a loving one. I would choose the same if I were you as close extended family support is very important and is something that money can't buy. Even if the NZ income is much better than back home and my existing lifestyle can be matched, there's just no substitite for close family support/help.

Thanks for sharing opening and honest, I appreciate it.

I am quite young (31), married with a 11 mth old daughter and we want to experience working overseas. We find that NZ would be a wonder place for family time if not forever, certainly for a few years. Yes, I know that salary is not high but it is not too far from what I am getting now, so the cost is still not as high. But we would certainly miss our families while in NZ and that cost would be something we would need to be mindful of as we live in NZ.

[Carol]

For me personally there is another reason. My youngest has severe learning difficulties. In NZ special needs education is basically not comparable with the Dutch system. And more important: it stops when the child is 20. There are no institutions like here.
So she would be completely dependent on us for the rest of her life. What happens when we die prematurely (accident, dicease ???). She will be on her own literally on the other side of the globe. In Holland she has other family members and a social system which will take care of her.



You are absolutely doing the right thing.