[elleann]

Once you have been granted PR, how long can you wait before you HAVE to enter the country?

I'm coming into NZ (with my daughter) on a work visa in January. My plan is to apply for PR once we are in and settled. I'll be applying for PR for myself, my daughter (17) and my son (20). But my son is going to be in the UK on a working/holiday visa for most of 2009, so my question is this: once we have been granted PR (sometime in 2009 with any luck), by when will he have to enter NZ? (And is this doable?)

Any input or personal experience with this staggered arrival scenario would be appreciated!

Thanks
Linda

[unar]

You have a year to activate your visa, I think.

-una

[IanW99]

Once you have been granted PR, how long can you wait before you HAVE to enter the country?

I'm coming into NZ (with my daughter) on a work visa in January. My plan is to apply for PR once we are in and settled. I'll be applying for PR for myself, my daughter (17) and my son (20). But my son is going to be in the UK on a working/holiday visa for most of 2009, so my question is this: once we have been granted PR (sometime in 2009 with any luck), by when will he have to enter NZ? (And is this doable?)

Any input or personal experience with this staggered arrival scenario would be appreciated!

Thanks
Linda

As has been said, once the blue stickers are in your passport then you have twelve months to enter NZ and activate the PR (obviously yours will be activated immediately if you are already in NZ).

But my concern is that your son may not be granted a PR at all, NZIS will want you to be able to prove that he is dependent on you and if not then he won't get a PR.

With him working in the UK, I would find it hard to believe that he was dependent on you, so not sure how you would convince NZIS?

Ian

[elleann]

Ian, to answer your question:

According to the EOI forms, I would need to do a separate form for each dependent child under the age of 25. They ask about character, health and english language ability as well as which countries they have lived in for more than 12 months in the last ten years.

He will be living with his uncle in the UK and will be there mainly for holiday / part time work purposes. According to the working holiday visa regulations, he may not work full time in the UK. When he arrives in NZ, he will be living with me and will be embarking on a course of full time study. I hope I am right, but according to the glossary on the INZ it seems as if he will be OK. He will be totally financially reliant on me at that stage.

[IanW99]

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He will be living with his uncle in the UK and will be there mainly for holiday / part time work purposes. According to the working holiday visa regulations, he may not work full time in the UK. When he arrives in NZ, he will be living with me and will be embarking on a course of full time study. I hope I am right, but according to the glossary on the INZ it seems as if he will be OK. He will be totally financially reliant on me at that stage.

I wasn't trying to scare you, just drawing your attention to something that I could see as a problem, but from what you have posted you are already on the ball so to speak.

From the residence guide:
i) aged 17 to 24, with no child(ren) of his or her own, and
ii) single*, and
iii) totally or substantially reliant on the principal applicant* and/or the principal applicant's* partner* for financial support, whether living with them or not;

So living with his uncle, and working even part time will have an effect on the application, at the very least you will need to prove everything to NZIS satisfaction.

When determining whether a child of 17 to 24 years of age is totally or substantially reliant on the principal applicant* and/or the principal applicant's* partner* for financial support, visa and immigration officers must consider the whole application, taking into account all relevant factors including:
�� whether the child is in paid employment, whether this is full time or part time, and its duration;
�� whether the child has any other independent means of financial support;
�� whether the child is living with its parents or another family member, and the extent to which other support is provided;

Once he arrives in NZ, then I don't see any issues at all but this doesn't count (AFAIK) if you apply for PR whilst he is still in the UK. Of course if you delay your PR till he is in NZ then I am sure that the process will be much simpler.

Ian

[elleann]

Yep, that is exactly the same info that I read. Here is my dilemma:

I'm basically planning to come in (me and daughter) on a work permit basis, with a view to applying for PR. However, son will be in the UK at that point. So ... what if I applied for PR now, while we are all three still here in SA, and he is clearly a dependent?

I'm told that if you've applied for PR and are waiting, you can in the meantime apply for a temporary work permit so that you can come over and start working while your PR application is being processed..... but I had also heard that if you apply for PR once you are in NZ, things go much more quickly and smoothly. In my case, there won't be any hassles or delays from NZQA because my professional registration has already been processed by the NZ Nursing Council.

Oh, decisons, decisions! :-)

[IanW99]

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but I had also heard that if you apply for PR once you are in NZ, things go much more quickly and smoothly. In my case, there won't be any hassles or delays from NZQA because my professional registration has already been processed by the NZ Nursing Council.

Oh, decisons, decisions! :-)

At least you have plenty of choices.

Personally, I would secure a job (if you haven't already) and put in your PR ASAP.

As you say, if you want to move sooner, then you can just apply for a work visa on the back of your PR application (with the possibility that they will push your PR through instead).

I don't know who told you that it would be much quicker and smoother to apply in NZ, from out experience it is much more likely to be slower to apply from within NZ (if you are already in NZ then there is no need for them to fast track your application).

Ian