[maverickmonk]

I believe most of members in this forum are from UK/US well here is an indian's pespective on NZ immigration .It has been almost 1 year when I submitted my ITA to Delhi branch .

well here is the story so far ..

@ 2 weeks after ITA submission
I got reply telling me that there are no resources with Delhi branch to process my application ,so my application is being transferred to Singapore and was asked to wait 6 months.As english is not my first language I did ask delhi branch about what kind of proof they need for english ability , they told me that letter from college stating that medium of instruction was English would be sufficient.

@6-7 months after ITA , my case officer contacted my saying that some proofs are required within 1 month otherwise my application would be rejected.

-Proof that I actually work as software engineer , It really amused me as I had already provided proof that my current designation was actually "senior software engineer"
-Proof of english ability , letter from university was rejected saying that education was gained 6 years back .
-Not counting 10 months experience , I was told 10 months is too short a period to be considered as employment !!

Anyways I struggled for 1 month to get all those documents , took IELTS , got 7.5 in it ,mailed to my CO all these original documents.
CO replied back saying that within 2 months you will get idea whether you will be called for interview at year end or not .

@10 months
I required some of my original documents ,So I mailed my CO .

@11 months .
I got mail from CO saying that my application has been transferred back to India ,as they also have no resources there and processing of application would start in 5-6 months .Also I would have to contact Indian branch to get my documents back .

Now I have been trying to call these guys, but to no avail .

@16 months ??
I believe I will required to produce another Police Clearance Certificate and Medical Certificate ,getting them btw is a nightmare in India.


So, unless you are born in UK/US , NZ immigration is long and painful process :-)

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

-Not counting 10 months experience , I was told 10 months is too short a period to be considered as employment !!
Huh?? This really concerns me, because I have claimed for periods of employment while I was in New Zealand as they were directly related to my qualifications and skills. Because I was there on a working holiday scheme, the terms of my visa expressly prohibited my taking up "permanent employment" so I was required to go through a temp agency each time. Hence all my employment experience in New Zealand was for short periods of time. What else was I supposed to do??

[JandM]

Sympathies. This must all be SO frustrating.

Just so you know it isn't only you, or only India, which gets stupid and nonsensical reactions - when my son was already in NZ with his Kiwi wife, going through the partners' sponsorship process, he received a letter from someone at NZIS, in such bad English (choice of words/phrases as well as spelling) that it was hard to be certain of the meaning in places. It was telling him they couldn't proceed with his application because he hadn't supplied proof that he speaks English. He IS English, British born, raised and educated, as all his paperwork of course showed. He also had a signed paper stating that everything necessary was there, given him when he had queued up at the office to hand in his application personally, from the official who had looked through it and checked. When he complained, he was told that the official who had sent out his letter had 'left the service'.

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

Sympathies. This must all be SO frustrating.

Just so you know it isn't only you, or only India, which gets stupid and nonsensical reactions - when my son was already in NZ with his Kiwi wife, going through the partners' sponsorship process, he received a letter from someone at NZIS, in such bad English (choice of words/phrases as well as spelling) that it was hard to certain of the meaning in places. It was telling him they couldn't proceed with his application because he hadn't supplied proof that he speaks English. He IS English, British born, raised and educated, as all his paperwork of course showed. He also had a signed paper stating that everything necessary was there, given him when he had queued up at the office to hand in his application personally, from the official who had looked through it and checked. When he complained, he was told that the official who had sent out his letter had 'left the service'.
Something similar actually happened to us when we were renewing my OH's working holiday visa (something he was automatically entitled to as a British citizen, we were just going through the paperwork).

We submitted the application in hard-copy paper form, because the NZIS website was so often down or unavailable we weren't ever able to complete the whole thing online.

Three weeks after hearing nothing from NZIS (keeping in mind we were advised that the whole process should take less than two weeks) we left on a tour of the South Island. Five days before his visa was due to expire, we managed to check in via phone with the Immigration service to see if the extension had gone through.

We were advised, by someone with at best a tenuous grasp on the English language, that his application had been returned to our postal address because he had not included his actual passport in the application. Funnily enough, this requirement was ONLY stated on the website and was not mentioned anywhere on the paper application (NZIS later admitted their error and told us they would amend their hard-copy paperwork.)

When we asked if there was anything we could do to redirect his application to where we were currently staying in Wanaka, the man informed us in broken English that we "had better start booking tickets out of the country, since you will soon be illegal overstayer."

After a lot of panicked phone calls, we managed to redirect the whole application package back to NZIS and put OH's passport in a secure courier envelope that would arrive the next day. We were told (contrary to the threats issued by Official #1) that as long as the application was pending, he would not be considered an overstayer.

We were told variously that our application had been assigned first to Official #2, who then disavowed all knowledge of the application, and told us it had been assigned to Official #3.

No word from Official #3 for a week.

The next Thursday, we received a phone call at about 7:00am - which naturally went to voicemail, since we were still asleep (hey, we were on vacation!). Official #3 informed us, in equally broken English (she couldn't pronounce his first name, and his first name is Charles - COME ON), that she required six passport photos from my OH in order to complete the application, and that if we did not submit these by Friday, his application would be denied.

Keep in mind that we had already submitted a full sheet of eight passport photographs with his initial application, which NZIS had obviously lost.

Keep in mind also that this was Thursday morning, and that she was demanding them by Friday, i.e. the next day.

Keep in mind finally that we were now in Invercargill, at the bottom end of the South Island, and she wanted them sent to Auckland, at the top end of the North Island.

We were so fed up with being threatened and jerked around at this point that I managed to complain my way up to a senior manager, who acknowledged that it was ridiculous to expect the photos to make it there by Friday, and allowed us until Tuesday to submit them. He also acknowledged that most of this was probably NZIS's fault and that "occasionally hiccups in the system do occur."

A month after this whole charade, I sent a formal complaint to NZIS, which was never followed up.

...Okay, you can go ahead and ask me why I want to emigrate to this country again? :laugh

[rizjunior]

satyamsandhu! Why don't you put everything in writing and send it to NZ Prime Minister and Interior Minister asking them to look into this matter. You might be processed on priority bases. No harm writing.

[maverickmonk]

I guess it depends on the CO assigned to your application , I was not able to find anything about short duration of employment in NZIS website and your case is certainly different as you were there on WHV only :)


Huh?? This really concerns me, because I have claimed for periods of employment while I was in New Zealand as they were directly related to my qualifications and skills. Because I was there on a working holiday scheme, the terms of my visa expressly prohibited my taking up "permanent employment" so I was required to go through a temp agency each time. Hence all my employment experience in New Zealand was for short periods of time. What else was I supposed to do??

[victoria24]

ive only had limited dealings with nzis but have found them easy to talk/mail to in the london branch.

[np2nz]

...Okay, you can go ahead and ask me why I want to emigrate to this country again? :laugh

I actually wanted to ask you why you want to emigrate to NZ so badly.

I know from your other posts that you went to a college in the US, your location says the UK, so I assume you are a British citizen and you have lived in NZ before. As a British citizen, you have the opportunity to move/live anywhere in the Europe and possibly you could have lived in the US too.

Would you have lived in the US, if you had the opportunity to do so for a long term?

[np2nz]

victoria24,

I just saw this on your signature: "18/12 EOI expired on 105 points". I am not understanding what is going on here. I thought your EOI was selected on November 5th of this year with 110 points.

[NikT]

ive only had limited dealings with nzis but have found them easy to talk/mail to in the london branch.

I've got to agree with that.
Dealing with NZIS in NZ is a NIGHTMARE!:(:mad::wah
I gave up, and used to phone London at night.

Nick.:cheers

[BkyMonster]

victoria24,

I just saw this on your signature: "18/12 EOI expired on 105 points". I am not understanding what is going on here. I thought your EOI was selected on November 5th of this year with 110 points.

If I remember correctly vicoria24 has had an EOI in the pool for quite some time (EOI's expire after 6 months in the pool) and recently got further qualifications bumping them up to 110. :)

[AliIsmailNZ]

Hello,

I don't think that a person had the same time frame of mine in the forum, but I believe that New Zealand is a country that is relying in the field of human resources from the immigrants.

The NZIS wants to make sure that the new immigrants will contribute and settle properly in the New Zealand community and will not burden their system.

In respone to "So, unless you are born in UK/US , NZ immigration is long and painful process :-)", because these countries are comparable labour market, English speaking, have a better contacts, and many more.

We all waited too long and it might just need a little more :o)

Hang on, cheers.

Ali Ismail

[maverickmonk]

thank you for your kind words

In respone to "So, unless you are born in UK/US , NZ immigration is long and painful process :-)", because these countries are comparable labour market, English speaking, have a better contacts, and many more.
Ali Ismail
I totally agree with you on that.
But at this point am not worried about delay , only thing that worries me is getting all my original documents(tax ,offer letter,employment letters) back

and I have been trying for a while to get them back .

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

I actually wanted to ask you why you want to emigrate to NZ so badly.

I know from your other posts that you went to a college in the US, your location says the UK, so I assume you are a British citizen and you have lived in NZ before. As a British citizen, you have the opportunity to move/live anywhere in the Europe and possibly you could have lived in the US too.

Would you have lived in the US, if you had the opportunity to do so for a long term?
Hi there, sorry! I only just saw this post...was away for a while on holiday and just catching up now. :)

I am actually an American citizen, but I married a Scottish bloke. We met in New Zealand and had our civil union there. Because I am only in the UK through marriage, my eligibility to work in Europe is a little different, and would depend on the specific country we wanted to emigrate to, if we did at all. My other half was actually mainly raised in France, so for a while we were considering going there, but to us, New Zealand is just...special. It's the only place on earth where we've both ever felt at home, and neither of us want to settle in either the UK or America. My reasons for not wanting to go back to the States aren't that interesting or specific, although I do have serious problems with the healthcare system and other issues with which I fundamentally disagree. And having spent the last six months in the UK, well...I can easily see why people want to get out of here, too. ;)