[BadlyDrawnGirl]

Just wondering what you think INZ meant by this...we've been waiting on a letter from our former employer in New Zealand, who (we only just found out) is on annual leave until the 26th, even though she didn't mention this to us...grrr! Anyway, the person processing our case asked us to please try to get it in ASAP since "they cannot keep our application open indefinitely."

Now, I realise that EOIs do expire, but I thought they were valid for six months? We only just submitted ours on the first of December, so surely it shouldn't be anywhere near expiring??

[2371]

Hi Sarah

To my understanding, ITA remains valid for 6 months once EOI is approved. I understand that your EOI so far has "just" been selected and is now in process of a quality check which will lead to an EOI approval or rejection.

So if you do not deliver the documents in a timely manner, they might just put you back into the pool.

R.

[BodaciousBean]

Hey there,

EOI's expire 6 months after being submitted into the pool.

[victoria24]

if your eoi has been selected then it falls outside of the expiry date and is down to negotiation between you and CO in my experience

[Mrs Pony]

your EOI can be in the pool for no more than 6 months... after that you have to start all over again... Once they select your EOI they can only keep working on it for soo long... we had the same issue when we had to get OH's education assessed. as long as you keep them updated and not wait too long you should be fine

[globetrecker]

Just wondering what you think INZ meant by this...we've been waiting on a letter from our former employer in New Zealand, who (we only just found out) is on annual leave until the 26th, even though she didn't mention this to us...grrr! Anyway, the person processing our case asked us to please try to get it in ASAP since "they cannot keep our application open indefinitely."

What kind of letter are they asking for?

[dusk]

Just wondering what you think INZ meant by this...we've been waiting on a letter from our former employer in New Zealand, who (we only just found out) is on annual leave until the 26th, even though she didn't mention this to us...grrr! Anyway, the person processing our case asked us to please try to get it in ASAP since "they cannot keep our application open indefinitely."

Now, I realise that EOIs do expire, but I thought they were valid for six months? We only just submitted ours on the first of December, so surely it shouldn't be anywhere near expiring??
Sounds like a 'hurry-up' nudge rather than something you should fret too much about, get in touch with your CO and explain the situation, try to give them a new date when you think you may have the documents they need (and give the person you need it froma nudge yourself!) so that they know you ARE trying :)

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

What kind of letter are they asking for?
It needs to be on company letterhead, so we're assuming it will need to be posted here, unless you think INZ will be okay with a faxed copy? The posting time was mainly what we were concerned about...

[Toonster]

{hugs}

Would it be worth asking your CO whether a faxed copy would be ok to get things moving, as long as the hard copy was following in the post? Is there anyone else in the office who could write the letter, or does it have to be the one who is on annual leave?

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

Well...we got the draft letter back today, and it's a bit disappointing.

Basically because of the economic climate HR is not "officially" recruiting people at the moment. OH has personal connections with his old team leader and so he would be able to get in that way, but they aren't really supposed to be actively bringing in new people. So she's basically just written us something that looks like a letter of reference with the statement that she would have no hesitation in hiring him again.

Should I try to push her to be more specific or just submit it as is and hope they don't drop us the 20 points? :(

[Toonster]

What were you hoping the letter was going to say? (was it going to be used as a job offer letter?)

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

Yeah, it was going to talk about wanting to hire him back if he were in New Zealand again to work in his old team. Of course, now apparently they can't specifically talk about hiring ANYONE.

The stupid thing is, if he WERE in New Zealand, he'd get back in to the company in a flash. It's just that they were never willing to stick their necks out and sign the visa paperwork to get him there from abroad.

Sigh.

(ETA: Keep in mind though that he's not the principal applicant, so our entire application isn't predicated on this. It's just that it would drop us way down points-wise.)

[Toonster]

{hugs} Can you submit it with a cover letter? Use the "wouldn't hesitate to hire him" part and explain the situation?

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

{hugs} Can you submit it with a cover letter? Use the "wouldn't hesitate to hire him" part and explain the situation?Well, we could, but wouldn't it look a bit suspect if we only submitted a tiny little letter from the company with a huge flailing explanation from us? Or do you mean have the HR woman write the cover letter too?

[Toonster]

Not sure (without having the experience you've had, I wouldn't know and wouldn't want to give duff advice!!) Can you ask your CO about it, or do you not want to show your hand too early?

(I found mine really helpful when I was explaining for the EOI updates they'd asked for - I had to explain that I couldn't give the full info on my job as my company wasn't aware at the time that I'd put in the application - she was fine with that as long as I'd then be able to approve it on the ITA, but at least it got through the first hurdle!)

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

I seriously doubt we will be able to get the HR person to give specifics on a position or job duties. I'm aware that she really has her hands tied as far as job offers go (i.e. they're not supposed to be making them) so I just really don't know what to do. If we don't get these points, we're down to 100 and probably out of luck. :( I think the best we could hope for is a letter saying "Mr. Soandso [his former team leader] has expressed interest in re-hiring Charles to work on his team were he to return to New Zealand, and I fully support him in this." And that's best-case scenario.

Should we just pack it in?...

[BodaciousBean]

Hi there,

I must of missed something along the way but you have been selected from the pool. :) Perhaps wait it out and see if you get an ITA and hopefully by that time comes, your hubby will know more about the job and you can claim it on your ITA? Just some thoughts I had.

Hope everything works out for ya! :nice1

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

Hi there,

I must of missed something along the way but you have been selected from the pool. :) Perhaps wait it out and see if you get an ITA and hopefully by that time comes, your hubby will know more about the job and you can claim it on your ITA? Just some thoughts I had.

Hope everything works out for ya! :nice1
Thanks for the support! I suppose I'm just concerned that we won't even get an ITA with the letter as it stands. It's just so vague. Plus, I doubt their stance on hiring will still be the same in a few months' time, so we might not even be able to get a clearer recommendation even then. I mean, we will still definitely be submitting what we have from her, I'm just trying to figure out if we have a hope in hell of making it through with what we have...

[BodaciousBean]

I'm just trying to figure out if we have a hope in hell of making it through with what we have...

Sure you could! I am sure they saw something because you would have not been drawn from the pool, right? ;)

I know this sounds drastic but is there any way you could just head over to NZ within the next few months, perhaps talking to this company, settling, getting the job and then adding it to your EOI? That would surely speed things along and a way to lock in your ITA. Again, just another thought. :o

Hang in there.:nice1

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

Sure you could! I am sure they saw something because you would have not been drawn from the pool, right? ;)

I know this sounds drastic but is there any way you could just head over to NZ within the next few months, perhaps talking to this company, settling, getting the job and then adding it to your EOI? That would surely speed things along and a way to lock in your ITA. Again, just another thought. :o

Hang in there.:nice1
Thanks again. Unfortunately no, we have both maxed out our working holiday visas, so the only way we would be able to re-enter the country without PR would be on a visitor visa.

I do think that we have a good case in and of itself since we have already proven our ability to settle in New Zealand, and because we have an extensive support network there. But, I assumed that we were pulled simply because of the number of points we had, which was something I thought was done by computer (or at least automatically) without anyone actually looking at our application. But, I hope I'm wrong! :laugh