[Jewel]

Hello

I'm a mum of two and now that one is at school and the other is in daycare twice a week I have some time (which is not a good thing when all I think about it moving back home to NZ).So to help my family get there I thought it would be a great thing to return to study so when we do come back I can get a good job...thing is I don't know what I wanna be when I grow up LOL.

I'm thinking it would be a good idea to study something that is in demand in NZ so I have no worries getting work....BUT WHAT? Can anyone tell me what jobs a re in demand in NZ?


I had thought about doing a teacher aid course so that I can work a long side a teacher I'm not sure how they work in NZ but it seems in Perth they have them a lot in the primary schools.I also thought about hairdressing but cause I'm 33 no one will take me on (I have gone to great efforts to find a job in this industry at no avail)..........So what would be the best area to study then guys?

I would like to live in the Rodney area so I guess jobs differ from place to place however I'm ok to travel to work used to do it all the time so have no concerns there.

Thanks in advance and do hope you might be able to shed some light for me.




PS any info on plastering would be great too!

Cheers.

[dilanium]

Take a look through the long term skill shortage list: http://www.immigration.govt.nz/NR/rdonlyres/063ECB35-F5D5-44D8-8325-7041A727A9D5/0/1093.pdf

And the immediate skill shortage list:
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/NR/rdonlyres/89185A40-27D3-41F4-84BE-30129920411D/0/ImmediateSkillShortageList.pdf

They have all the jobs that NZ needs as well as the qualifications they look for if you are trying to use it for points on a PR application.

[BkyMonster]

I'd have a look at the shortage areas (http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/work/skilledmigrant/LinkAdministration/ToolboxLinks/essentialskills.htm?level=1) (LTSSL) and the history of them if you can.

Otherwise I'd say some forms of IT, nurses, midwives are generally always in demand.

[Jewel]

Will check that out thanks guys :-)

[Jewel]

cool had a wee look and think I'll go for teaching...although I don't want to be here for 4 years so might do the teachers assistant that is a shorter course.I'm sure I'll get work and if not can further study in NZ...I am a qualified nanny so should all help...thanks guys yay I now know what I wanna be when I get older hehe.

[dilanium]

Do you already have a four year degree? There's a program in NZ that is one year long that allows you to get teaching cert on top of a bachellors.

[Jewel]

No :-( I don't .
I did a nanny course so can be credited for some things but still need to train to work in daycare or to become a teacher...if that makes sense.It's just the teachers aid course is a year or two and a teacher is I think 4 so it's tricky when I would love to move in year or two.

Love to know any more info anyone has.I just emailed a few primary schools in Rodney to ask how in demand a teacher aid is but it's school holidays so will have to wait.

Thanks.

[Arwen]

Hi Jewel :)

I know that there is currently quite a demand for Early Childhood Education Teachers here in NZ, as the government would like all providers of Early Childhood Education to be qualified ECE Teachers by the year 2012.

I am currently doing an ECE course through the Open Polytechnic, which is great, as it allows me to be at home with my kids and study extramurally.

If you would like any more info about this course, just let me know and I will PM you some web links.

Best of luck. :nice1

[Jewel]

Hi Arwen,
Yes please if you can email me that would be GREAT!
I'm a little confused as to wat ECE is excatly...can you only work at childcare with that? Could you also be a teacher assistant with that qualification?

Please PM me love to hear more :-):bluebanana

[Arwen]

Hi Jewel :)

I have PMd you some useful weblinks.

I hope they all come through ok, if not, please let me know.

Kind regards,

Arwen :nice1

[Carey]

Just to second that Early Childhood Education is a big growth area and qualified staff with a spefcific ECE qualification (only gained in NZ), are in huge demand in most areas.

[TipTopAddicts]

Hey Jewel,
Seeing as though you've already done some Nanny stuff, don't know if this might be of interest...

http://www.porse.co.nz/

Good luck

[Jewel]

Just to second that Early Childhood Education is a big growth area and qualified staff with a spefcific ECE qualification (only gained in NZ), are in huge demand in most areas.


Can I not do my training here in WA though?
I contacted Massey about there Bachelor of Education course but I can't do correspondence from here.So I will have to go to uni here in WA.
I'm thinking working with birth to 8 would be more me then daycare and kindy.
I wonder If we move before I complete my training in WA if I can complete it in NZ??

Thanks everyone for all you advice and info it really helps and any more firer away :nice1

[Jewel]

Hey Jewel,
Seeing as though you've already done some Nanny stuff, don't know if this might be of interest...

http://www.porse.co.nz/

Good luck


Thanks for that. :)

[dilanium]

You may be able to complete it in NZ- I would contact the school you would want to go to (perhaps Massey, or somewhere else) and ask whether they would accept the credits you had already taken.

[Kanga]

Massey's teacher training is pretty flexible in terms of delivery- I'd second dilanium's suggestion and start by getting clarification from Massey as to how much credit they'd give you for a course started in WA. It might be a long way round because you may find that 2 yrs in WA gives you less credit than 2 yrs in NZ or you may find you can transfer directly. If you're not sure where you'll be living Massey is a good bet too because their course can be completed via distance learning, which would free up your choice of location.

[Jewel]

You may be able to complete it in NZ- I would contact the school you would want to go to (perhaps Massey, or somewhere else) and ask whether they would accept the credits you had already taken.

Thanks dilanium..have done it..emailed Massy just now.
Thanks.

[Carey]

Auckland and Waikato also do a distance learning course. Check very carefully what quals from where are recognised by NZ as the Min of Ed. is very particular!

[sophiedb]

I know that there is currently quite a demand for Early Childhood Education Teachers here in NZ, as the government would like all providers of Early Childhood Education to be qualified ECE Teachers by the year 2012.

Do you have any idea whether this is similar to the UK gov's new push for for more EYPs? (Early Years Professional Status (http://www.cwdcouncil.org.uk/eyps))

It's not exactly a teaching qualification, as far as I've been told, but certainly specialises in Early Years. The OP should be eligible due to her experience as a nanny and would gain a degree in the process, if she has time between now and emigration. There are no course fees, and most of the courses are run through local councils.

Soph x

[Arwen]

Do you have any idea whether this is similar to the UK gov's new push for for more EYPs? (Early Years Professional Status (http://www.cwdcouncil.org.uk/eyps))

It's not exactly a teaching qualification, as far as I've been told, but certainly specialises in Early Years. The OP should be eligible due to her experience as a nanny and would gain a degree in the process, if she has time between now and emigration. There are no course fees, and most of the courses are run through local councils.

Soph x

Hi Sophieb :)

Hmmm...... not exactly sure to be honest with you. I does sound very similar though. ECE providers are called teachers here, but are only allowed to teach in daycare or kindy, not schools. There is hopefully going to be an option through the Open Poly to upgrade your ECE qualification to include Primary Education, by taking a one year post-graduate course.

Not sure if doing a ECE based qualification in the UK would serve (the OP)?? well, as the ECE courses run in NZ predominately centre around Te Whariki (New Zealand's Early Childhood Curriculum). You may be eligible for some cross-credits, but I'm really not sure. It is a requirement that most ECE centres here in NZ incorporate the goals and strands etc laid out in Te Whariki.

Below is a link to the downloadable version of this document:-

http://www.educate.ece.govt.nz/Programmes/TeWhariki.aspx

Hope this advice helps in some way. :nice1

[sophiedb]

That makes sense, Arwen - thank you :) Would probably make more sense to wait until NZ then, esp due to the Maori component.

[tea drinker]

Think that NZ only accept ECE quals gained in NZ. They do not recognise any ECE quals from other countries.

[Jewel]

Hey guys,
Thought I would update you all.I can't really do training here they said they might cross credit some but honestly it seems to me it's just not worth the drama's and money and time and in the end it could all be a time waster and me not being qualified.

SO..might just do a teachers aid course it take a year only or perhaps do something different but then wat?? LOL time will tell I guess it just sux cause I wanted to be all prepared when I came back to NZ.

Thanks everyone for all the info and help it's been amazing:nice1

[Arwen]

Hi Jewel :)

The Teacher Aide course sounds like a good option. Like you said, it would be awful spending all that time and money on training that might not be cross-credited here in NZ, (I have faced the same problem myself trying to get some of my UK qualifications cross-credited). :mad:

I know it would have been preferable for you to have everything in place before you arrived, but with the TA course only taking one year, you will be out there seeking work before you know it. ;)

The very best of luck with all your future plans. Let us know how you get on.
:nice1 xxx.

[Arwen]

That makes sense, Arwen - thank you :) Would probably make more sense to wait until NZ then, esp due to the Maori component.

I think so Sophieb, the Maori component is a very important part of ECE. Like Jewel, I would hate to think that you would end up wasting time and money on a course that is not really relevent to NZ's Early Childhood Education Curriculum.

To quote Tea Drinker: "NZ will only accept ECE qualifications gained here". I think that's spot on, and largely due to the Te Whariki and Maori components.

Hang in there and find the right course for you when you arrive. ;)

Best of luck with everything. :nice1 xxx.

[sophiedb]

hi all,

I work in a Childrens Centre at the mo and all this talk of ECE jobs in NZ made me a little tempted to look into EYPS too, so I emailed Canterbury Uni to see what they made of it.. Here's the answer:

Hi Sophie,

Thanks for your enquiry about Early Childhood Teacher training at the University of Canterbury.

With a degree you would be eligible to apply for the Graduate Diploma of Teaching and Learning (Early Childhood) programme.

Unfortunately, I don't know anything about the course that you are talking about. If it is not a qualification, I don't know that it would entitle you to any credit transfers for the GradDipTchLn(Early Childhood) here, but for your confidence and certainty, the placements in ECE settings may be a good idea.

As I understand it, there are significant differences between the ECE training in the UK and in New Zealand - the level of it and the duration. If you think that this course will benefit you as a practitioner, by all means take it, but I can't comment on it's relevance to the NZ qualification you intend to apply for.

I'm sorry I can't give you more specific information.

So basically the only real benefit of the EYPS would be that it comes with a degree, if you don't already have one, which would then mean only 15-20 months training in NZ (to get the GradDip mentioned) rather than 3+ years for a B.Ed. But when you add on the time taken to get the EYPS itself (4-15 months).. well, it's entirely likely that hanging on for a full NZ qual from start to finish is the better idea.

:)

[Carey]

Think that NZ only accept ECE quals gained in NZ. They do not recognise any ECE quals from other countries.

This is correct but I have heard that the one yr graduate diploma in ECE does take into account some prior learning, eg if you are already primary trained, some credit is given for that. Also the NZTC (NZ Tertiary College) offers a 18 month ECE grad. diploma which you can do while you work. All the other grad dip. courses are one year full time.

Have to say it slightly baffles me how primary teaching (early yrs) does not count at all towards some credit for ECE and having worked in 2 NZ ECE centres, it's not exactly rocket science and I question whether it needs a whole year of full time study on top of a teaching degree and x number of yrs experience? But hey, I'm starting at a primary school next term, much to my huge relief!

[jillzq]

Hi
I'm Preschool teacher, ECE its what I want to do in NZ. Any information if you could pass it on I would be wonderful. I'm worried about my qualifications. In So. Calif we need 12 units in ECE classes to be a preschool teacher and I don't know if that is enough for NZ or not. I've been a preschool teacher for about 4 yrs now. :)

warmly
Jill

[Arwen]

Hello jillzq :)

I was going to PM you some information, but I couldn't as you have only posted 4 times. Apparently, you need to send 5 posts before you can send and receive PM's.

Anyway, below are a couple of links that I hope you will find useful. :nice1

http://www.lead.ece.govt.nz/Staffing/RecognitionofPriorLearningFAQ.htm

http://www.educate.ece.govt.nz/Programmes/TeWhariki.aspx

[jillzq]

Thanks Arwen! Here is my 5th post LOL. Yeah I've been muddling the idea of moving to NZ but I'm single gal so its bit scary and thrilling all at the same time. I'm trying to get all the info I can so I can feel little less scared and more thrilled. :)

[Redbone]

Hi,

I know this thread has talked mainly about teaching but I just wanted to chime in on other 'in demand' professions.

I have an AS degree (2 year college) in laboratory medicine. I'm going back to school to become a dietician. Eastern Michigan University has an online program that I am going to enroll in. I really wanted to do Environmental Science (University of Oregon and I think, University of Phoenix) but I really think those jobs would be slanted toward a younger individual. I saw somewhere online that there will be a very high need for dieticians because of the rise in diabetes--particularly among the Maori. This is right up my alley because I've seen similar problems among my own people (I'm a mixed blood Eastern Siouan--Catawba/Saponi/Choctaw Indian). Even if we by some stroke of luck, get there before I can finish, I can still complete my degree in NZ.

Good luck to everyone in their studies! Hope it goes well.

Drae