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Work permits...


tea drinker
7th June 2009, 03:55 AM
...for teachers

(plan is to arrive on holiday visa and get a teaching job and get work permit and then apply for PR)

To get a work permit I know
has to be accredited employer - assume that schools are?

Are there any conditions that are applied to getting a work permit?
Primary teaching is currently on ISSL
e.g.
Does it have to be for a set duration of time?
Does the job offer have to be for a permanant post or can it be for a temporary post?
If temporary - how long does it have to be for?

Have assumed that you can't get a permit for supply (relief) teaching?

Is there any thing else that I should be considering that I haven't asked about (which is likely to be because I don't know about it)

Ta

JandM
7th June 2009, 06:31 AM
Sorry if you've already mentioned this - but just in case you haven't noticed others saying so, do you realize you have some formalities to go through with the NZ authorities in order to be recognized as a fully qualified teacher, and therefore to get paid at the full rate? I don't remember details, but doing a Search should bring up threads where it's been gone over.

tea drinker
7th June 2009, 09:27 AM
Thanks for pointing this out :)
I've been NZQA'd and NZTC'd (Teaching Council) so have that in place already

JandM
7th June 2009, 09:45 AM
One down, then!:nice1

925dancer
7th June 2009, 12:04 PM
Only a WTR has to be with an accredited employer. There is a minimum salary requirement with that visa of $55'000.

A normal work permit has to meet other criteria. Either be on one of the shortage lists, the employer is pre-approved to recruit from overseas or they can prove no suitable Kiwi could be found for the position.

I think both can be issued for 30 months.

CatherineP
7th June 2009, 01:43 PM
As I understand it the 'popular/good' schools have a lot of applicants for jobs, therefore in order to satisfy the no New Zealander can do the job (not the you are the best for the job) you may be looking at the schools nobody wishes to work in. I found when I was looking for teaching jobs they were really not very keen if you had no legal entitlement to work in the country. Some places, once they saw you were in the process of applying for PR, were then prepared to read your CV as they could see you were more committed to NZ albeit on paper, others needed you to have that legal entitlement first. Near us there are often 200+ applications for 1 position!!!!!

Could you start the PR proceess asap and see if it comes through in time to avoid the need for a work permit?

tea drinker
7th June 2009, 08:59 PM
Not enough points for PR hence the arriving on visitors visa
Immigration Officer from NZ House has suggested to me that this is the way to go

Primary teaching is on ISSL which although gives no points it means that I have the same entitlement to a teaching job as a NZer or someone with PR - I think?

I'm registered to teach with NZTC which is a professional requirement

Thanks for replies so far :)

tea drinker
8th June 2009, 12:09 AM
Does anyone know whether job offer for a work permit has to be permanant or can it be a temporary offer?

925dancer
8th June 2009, 12:21 AM
I think if you were offered temporary employment then your visa would only be issued for the duration of your contract. Not 100% sure about that though.

tea drinker
8th June 2009, 06:25 AM
Thanks
have spent quite a bit of time this afternoon ( in between thunder storms!) trawling through NZIS and TeachNZ sites for any info - and haven't found any
BUT did come across a page on the London page of NZIS that said I have to pay £50 for visitors visa plus provide a passport photo.
Haven't heard this mentioned before...has anyone else?

BkyMonster
8th June 2009, 09:45 AM
Can only imagine that's for an application for an extended visitor visa. I think from the UK you are entitled to 6 months visa free (other countries generally less), but can extend that with an application and fee.
For the US you are entitled to 3 months visa free but can apply and extend that up to 9 months, so I'd guess that's what that is referring to.

JandM
8th June 2009, 11:14 AM
I'm British, and have been to NZ twice on a visitor's visa. In each case, although I wasn't staying that long, the visa was was for 6 months and was stamped into my passport upon arrival in NZ, with no fee payable.

Could you put up a link to the page you found?

tea drinker
9th June 2009, 07:26 AM
Bit ICT deficient I'm afraid
I started on NZIS site, clicked onto contacts, then London and it was on there somewhere.
Will try to find it again.

tea drinker
9th June 2009, 07:42 AM
Spoke to NZ House London today and all comments refer to Primary Teachers.
(Forgot to ask about info in previous post but she didn't mention it either)

Conditions for (Primary Teaching) work permits applied for in NZ
NZQA - full
NZTC registration
need job offer in a letter form
copy of contract
form 1015 from their website
passport photo
supplementary employer form 1115 (filled in by school)

Can be for permanant OR temporary job offers however as it is for a work permit then permit is temporary.
Permanant job offer permit is up to 3 yrs at the discretion of NZIS
minimum permit for temporary job offer is 3 months

As someone previously said permit for temp job offer is for duration of job

Although there is no specified salary required for work permit NZIS will check salary offer to make sure it is within expected range for that job

Now here is where it gets interesting because I thought differently -

if job offer is for under 12 months - no medical and no police check required (unless you have a criminal record)
if job offer is over 12 months but under 24 months - medical but no police check (unless you have a criminal record)
if job offer over 24 months you need a full medical and police check

The nice lady also advised if job offer comes towards end of 6 months e.g. 4 months onwards when you have a job offer take it by hand and talk to regional branch of NZIS.
They may speed up process and MAY grant extension of visitor visa.
However you may be required to leave for a short time and then come back.

In the conversation she also said that current work permit processing times in London is 6 - 8 weeks

Hope that makes sense

JandM
9th June 2009, 08:25 AM
Thanks for all the info.:nice1

cherieb
9th June 2009, 08:30 AM
eek! I thought a work permit would take two-three weeks to get rather than six to eight. Thanks for the info tea drinker....


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