zensamurai
19th April 2005, 06:21 AM
Hi all,
unfortunately I have to go through it all from now.
First NZQA: What do they have to get not to provoke any request to checkback at the institutions where I studied ?
Is there any chance to get a job offer for EOI from NZ, when English is not the native language ? I worked for 15 years in project management and sales management. If someone has connections or advice I would be happy to hear some hints (and not like the usual: got to NZ and look for work).
I am 42, mechanical engineer with an additional study of marketing, have two little kids and a lovely wife.
thanks in advance for your replay
zensamurai
By the way. I am from Germany and the grass here isnīt greener.
Singel
19th April 2005, 11:25 AM
Hello zensamurai
My hubby is a Dutch and he got his Diploma/Degree and transcripts translated in English, submitted to the NZQA and he got the assessment report after 2 months (no question was asked at all).
We packed up and came here to look for a job, sorry that we could not answer your question regarding job searching from your home country.
Maybe, someone from the forum could help you.
Wish you ALL THE BEST & SUCCESS in your move to NZ. :nice1
:cheers
Graham Barnes
19th April 2005, 09:08 PM
Hi,
Why do you not want them to contact your educational institutions?? If time is an issue, give them the e-mail addresses and they do use them (well they did in my case). Or use the fast-track system which I found works well-'for a few dollars more'.
Otherwise, give them as much information as possible-too much if possible!. The more details you give them the better-and make sure everything is in the format they are requesting because they are sticklers for detail-so don't try and cut corners. Proper certification, institution stamps, translations, etc.
There have been a number of frauds discovered recently by NZQA-most from Asia which is where NZQA are particularly sceptical-so they are tightening up.
Hope this helps,
Graham
zensamurai
21st April 2005, 05:23 AM
Hi Graham,
thanks for reply (perhaps there is hope that I will get more than two responses, although I might not have the right nationality ;-) ).
No I am not worried, but if a NZ organization sendening a request to a german institute and I do not know about it, it can last forever.
If the fast track makes sense, I would choose it for "a fistful of dollars" :-).
So again, if there are a little bit more detailed tips I would be happy.
Itīs funny, the "weīve made it"-posts always gets 5 to 20 answers, Why not mine ?
Thanks in advance an my best regards to all anyway
zensamurai
Anita & Marco
21st April 2005, 05:34 AM
Hi Zensamurai,
My husband (principal applicant) sent all his diploma's and evidence of work experience translated to the NZQA for the normal full-assessment, so not the fast track. We sent it at the end of December - received our original documents in return in the beginning of February and end February we received their report, which was level 7 and enough for us to send in our EOI.
We both are no native English speakers and also did the IELTS-exam before that time, so we had all usefull information needed in the EOI.
Hopefully, this is useful to you and yes, I agree it sometimes seems a bit difficult to get information when you're not in the UK.
Regards,
Anita
zensamurai
21st April 2005, 07:02 AM
Hi,
after having written some threads, I agree that the answers were mostly from Dutch or US citizens.
Thanks a lot that the Dutch here donīt have any prejudicements (I got most answers from Dutch).
My very very hope is that also some more British would answer me.
Always think of: If you are not free in mind, donīt ever think to go to New Zealand.
Best wishes fro all.
zensamurai
Anita & Marco
21st April 2005, 07:19 AM
Hi Zensamurai,
Maybe with the new German pope, things will change to the better for you Germans? But I think hardly anybody can be without any prejudgements. You see/hear that all around you and be sure, this exists in NZ as well.
Have you seen threads on Maori's?
But for me, NZ is the way to go.
Regards,
Anita
Simon & Emily
21st April 2005, 07:34 AM
Hi Zensamurai,
First NZQA: What do they have to get not to provoke any request to checkback at the institutions where I studied ?
Is there any chance to get a job offer for EOI from NZ, when English is not the native language ?
Please don't take offence by this, but I think the reason that many people have not posted any response to your question is that the majority are native English speakers, and therefore cannot add any helpful tips or comments. Please do not take offence to this, or assume it has anything to do with your nationality. As far as I'm aware, NZIS will check all qualifications - I know with my husband (who served an apprenticeship with the UK Electricity board) was initially turned down because the 'Central Electricity Generating Board' was not on thier list of accepted educational institutions. We then provided more detailed info of the colleges etc where he studied, and this took a very long time for them to verify. As I'm sure you've already learnt from other threads, you will need the patience of a saint to get through this process in one piece.
Welcome to the forum, and good luck to both you and your family in your quest to move to NZ.
Emily
zensamurai
21st April 2005, 07:41 AM
Hi Anita + Marco,
you seem to be "salt of the earth". I had a dutch colleague few years ago, which was some kind of friend. He was "free thinking".
And I am not catholic and not proud of the new pope (I would wonder if any german catholic would be ?). He is not liked very well. We should have one more liberate to make the necessary moves.
I think your way and happy that there are some people outside thinking for themselves.
Cheers
zensamurai
Ria
21st April 2005, 08:54 AM
Hi Zensamurai,
As Simon & Emily said, nobody in the UK wants to get somebody's hopes up when they may have to go through a slightly different process in their own country.
(With regards to the 20 replies to a thread - 'Yah - Got PR!' - those are usually only congratulations comments and not words of advice). I myself have asked a few questions and you usually get maybe half a dozen responses - mostly I think because once the general points have been made, only those who have an almost identical situation have anything to offer.
My advice is that if you want things to go as quickly and smoothly as possible - do as much of the leg work yourself as you can - onerous, I know. I work with a german lawyer and she has had terrible trouble getting an accurate translation of her practicing certificate from the german institutions. I would suggest you pay to get your qualifications translated and then certified by a german lawyer/notary. If you can anticipate/provide the answers to most of NZQA's questions in a format that is acceptable to them - then I think half the battle's won.
The more effort you put in at the start, should help the NZQA wheels turn quicker and maybe make them see you've gone the extra mile.
I don't think I've really been much help - but don't be disheartened at the first hurdle.
And who cares what religion you or anyone else is. We all on this Forum worship at the alter of 'Godzone' - and I know everyone helps as much as they can.
Keep us posted of your progress :smile
All the best
Ria
zensamurai
22nd April 2005, 05:02 AM
Hi Ria,
thanks a lot for your replay. Yes, I agree to go the extra mile. But to be more specific I will tell want I am going to do.
Perhaps you can give some more hints then. But first question is:
Do I really have to send originals to NZQA (beg your pardon, but is very unusual in my country) ?
- First we will have translted all documents in NZ (certified copies)
- We will get certfications about job from our former employers in englisch.
- We will get an confirmation about study time in englisch from university.
- the study book we will have translated in Englisch, too.
- A complete set of copies will be sent to NZQA
But how about my current employer. It will be difficult to get a certification, because he will be suspiscious. Do you know a solution ?
Best regards
zensamurai
ErwinT
27th May 2005, 10:46 PM
I really (REALLY) don't like sending off my original diplomas for a trip around the world either, but it is the only way. :?
They had a lot of fraud in the past and to fight it they decided that they need originals. Since WE are the ones eager to move to NZ, it is OUR risk to do the things we have to do to get there, it's not their problem. :uhoh
I don't like the concequences for myself, but they do use a way of straightforward thinking which I like in principle.
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