[5kings]

Title says it all really.

We are currently doing ok in the UK considering OH is out of work (still searching since redundancy) due to income protection insurance policy, and the ever dwindling redundancy money....

Anyway, since reading various threads on here I think he is now worried about the chances of finding work in NZ - although we are flexible about location and even what jobs to a certain extent.

Main issue is that we will be reliant on our equity to find the move, and would have enough for a year with no income in NZ, so should have time to find a job doing something or other hopefully. I guess it's the getting to the time when we were planning on submitting the EOI and now we (OH particularly) are thinking of the huge step as a reality instead of a fantasy!!

I just think in all honesty I am more up for the move than OH, which is a worry, kids are all up for it though!

Helen

[Arwen]

Helen I do sympathise. You have such a lot to contend with right now.

Do you mind me asking what line of work your OH is in. Perhaps there may be others on the forum who could shed some light on the availability of employment in that area.

Best of luck with all your plans. :nice1

[IanW99]

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Anyway, since reading various threads on here I think he is now worried about the chances of finding work in NZ - although we are flexible about location and even what jobs to a certain extent.
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How's the searching going in the UK?

If it isn't going well, then what has he got to lose to give NZ a go?

Ian

[M-Squared]

How's the searching going in the UK?

If it isn't going well, then what has he got to lose to give NZ a go?

Ian

Very true! Looking at your signature, if you're looking to move in just over a year, then all signs indicate things should be improving by then. :nice1

[spudulike]

To be honest you may well manage if you have income for a year but don't underestimate the stress of the move and everything else that isn't financially related. In order to get through all the other hurdles I think you both need to be 100% completely sure this move is what you want for your family or it may not work no matter what falls into place.

I think you and OH need a very honest heart to heart (if you haven't already) and see how keen/committed you both are then plan from there.You could always postpone for a few years and have a hol there until you're both sure. NZ will still be there at a later date.

Sorry, probably not what you want to hear...:o

Good luck whatever you decide.

L :)

[eassae]

The costs associated with the process of immigration and the move itself can be quite high. Others have said you may have nothing to loose, but actually you probably want to be sure it is not going to take more out of your equity than you are planning. You don't want to end up feeling high and dry in six months.

My OH wouldn't let us come over without one of us having a job and I am definitely glad for it. We didn't have equity either though so you might be fine, just make sure you really investigate the costs compared to your budget.

[5kings]

Helen I do sympathise. You have such a lot to contend with right now.

Do you mind me asking what line of work your OH is in. Perhaps there may be others on the forum who could shed some light on the availability of employment in that area.

Best of luck with all your plans. :nice1

Hi,

OH is a graphic designer, and I am going into teacher training, and might retrain in NZ as an Early Years teacher if I can't find primary work.

We both have said we would be flexible workwise, and do other job sto keep us ticking over if we couldn't find something we are actually trained for!
Helen

[5kings]

How's the searching going in the UK?

If it isn't going well, then what has he got to lose to give NZ a go?

Ian

That's how I feel Ian!! Job hunting in the UK is dreadful actually, to be honest we are probably going to have to move somewhere else to find work I expect, so I think we should go for it and at least try in NZ.

[5kings]

I think you and OH need a very honest heart to heart (if you haven't already) and see how keen/committed you both are then plan from there.You could always postpone for a few years and have a hol there until you're both sure. NZ will still be there at a later date.

Sorry, probably not what you want to hear...:o

Good luck whatever you decide.

L :)

You are right, we have had so many discussions about this already it almost feels like we are going round in circles!! I think I'll have a LONG chat about it again tonight. I would love a hol/reccie trip, but we just can't afford it due to our current circumstances. We'd have to sell the house to fund the move.

Helen

[Duncan74]

You're braver than me. I'm struggling to be sure I'm making the right decision without the pressure of no job in the uk to 'push' me. I'm really not sure that I could make the right decision for me and my family with that pressure on top. This board has been really useful to put the "100% pure" propoganda into perspective, and I can see it's going to be different more than just everything being better. I really do feel for you, but moving to the far side of the world could if it all goes wrong leave you with no support, less cash in the bank, still no or little work, and potentially some neww housing problems. Of course hopefully that won't happen, but make sure you have a plan for the above, and not just immediately finding work, a lifestyle plot in Lord of the Rings scenery, and everyone smiling and moaning about how quiet and boring life is in paradise.

[Moorf]

Economies, job scene and even exchange rates are all over the place at the moment - globally. Look on the bright side, having not yet put in your EOI you're probably looking at a good 6 mths to a year before arriving and so much can change in that time n the job sector - that's not to say they'll be good changes, but you'll be more able to ascertain your risk of not finding work when well informed.

Keep yourselves abreast of what's going on in the indusry you work in, join relevant NZ forums in your industries populated by Kiwis (you've seen how supportive and helpful all ENZ members can be, and the contacts they alone may have).

Also, write letters to companies you might like to work for enclosing your CV (whether they are advertising or not) and ask pertinent questions about how they see their staffing requirements for your skills across the year and up to your arrival - don't necessarily ask for a job - just start building up contacts that you can "get to know" via email and who, on arrival, you'll have made yourself familiar to and may well find you get more attention for your prupdates/communication than perhaps a worker who just rocks up and knocks on the door. I say approach companies direct because I know many businesses are starting to do their own recruitment so as to avoid recruitment agency fees.

Just my 2 cents :)

[Moorf]

Just another thought, as your OH obviously has had a few concerns and hiccups along the way - can you revise the house sale and rent it out instead and then supplement your plan to come to NZ with a deadline of coming back in one year or so to your house if things don't go according to plan with jobs etc.

While we have had relatively smooth transition here - what kept us going at the beginning when looking for OH's IT job in Chhc was that mantra "we'll go back in 3yrs with our IRRV if we don't settle and we'd kept a rental property going in the UK for a "safety net".

[eassae]

Hi,

OH is a graphic designer, and I am going into teacher training, and might retrain in NZ as an Early Years teacher if I can't find primary work.

We both have said we would be flexible workwise, and do other job sto keep us ticking over if we couldn't find something we are actually trained for!
Helen

I don't know about teaching, but in terms of design there are very few roles here in Wellington. Victoria University graduates more designers every year than there are roles available. It seems in a lot of the design companies the higher roles: art director, creative director, and maybe senior designers are filled by predominantly by immigrants but those positions are few and far between, but like it's been said It looks like you have a while to go so things could change in the next six months.

I would suggest you look at seek and trade me to see what is available in your respective feilds.

[5kings]

Just another thought, as your OH obviously has had a few concerns and hiccups along the way - can you revise the house sale and rent it out instead and then supplement your plan to come to NZ with a deadline of coming back in one year or so to your house if things don't go according to plan with jobs etc.

While we have had relatively smooth transition here - what kept us going at the beginning when looking for OH's IT job in Chhc was that mantra "we'll go back in 3yrs with our IRRV if we don't settle and we'd kept a rental property going in the UK for a "safety net".


Hi

We'd have to sell to finance the move unfortunately.

I am half-wondering about the visitor visa route, then if we didn't secure work within a certain time, we would not have used all our money funding our
PR, and if we did find work, could apply for PR from NZ.

I think the main worry is, what if we didn't find work within a year? We have no-one who is in a position to help us out financially so would have to make sure we always had enough to get back to the UK if we needed to...........

But, OH is keen to move, just thinking of worse case scenarios at the minute I think!

Helen

[5kings]

I don't know about teaching, but in terms of design there are very few roles here in Wellington. Victoria University graduates more designers every year than there are roles available. It seems in a lot of the design companies the higher roles: art director, creative director, and maybe senior designers are filled by predominantly by immigrants but those positions are few and far between, but like it's been said It looks like you have a while to go so things could change in the next six months.

I would suggest you look at seek and trade me to see what is available in your respective feilds.

Thanks. :nice1
We have looked on the job websites and there do seem to be a fair few jobs around, he has 10 years experience, and is always keeping up to date, so would be suited to a senior designer role. I guess our advantage is we are flexible about where we end up to an extent.

Helen

[victoria24]

despite the doom and gloom and in some ways it is a reality, without a section 18a so you could do any job, i would say that you could find some type of work. i was prepared to move here and reckoned i could get a job in financial services within a month.

[Duncan74]

Minor point, but if you go on a visitors permit then you need to show a return ticket or you won't get in. So your 'safety net' of return tickets is still there. But offset by having to pay up front for that, and needing long term health cover.

[Carey]

My Oh wasn't entirely sure right up to the actual move altho we had been before so knew to a certain extent what we were coming to BUT you need to think how you would feel if you don't give it a try............regarding primary teaching there seem to be jobs in Auckland which certainly the agencies implied would be easy to get ( altho' you would need to look into why they are so quick to employ staff and whether you are happy to work in multi-cultural schools where often vacancies are unfilled), but you could use it as a stepping stone to gain experience then move on? I fall into the camp of using my firtst 2 positinos to get to where I wanted to and we are SO glad we came. And OH perfectly happy, more than happy in fact despite his reservations. But that comes down to personalities; I.m an optomist, he's a pessimist (or realist!).
I'd say go for it Helen!

[eassae]

This is hearsay.

I was at my weekly life drawing class yesterday. I was talking to one of the women in the class at our tea break. She asked me what I did for a living, I told her, then she told me her daughter did design in Auckland. Recently her daughters company fired their art director and wanted to promote her to the role. No raise. The previous Art Director was making 27,000.00 more than she was. They have to advertise the role legally and got over 600 applicants.

As I said this is hearsay, but I don't think the woman had any cause to lie to me.

[5kings]

This is hearsay.

I was at my weekly life drawing class yesterday. I was talking to one of the women in the class at our tea break. She asked me what I did for a living, I told her, then she told me her daughter did design in Auckland. Recently her daughters company fired their art director and wanted to promote her to the role. No raise. The previous Art Director was making 27,000.00 more than she was. They have to advertise the role legally and got over 600 applicants.

As I said this is hearsay, but I don't think the woman had any cause to lie to me.

I guess we can only try , and as I said, OH is prepared to be flexible about what he does, as are we about where we live. It's looking increasingly likely he would have to find an alternative in the UK, at least where we live currently, so will probably be giving NZ a whirl, with a deadline in when we need to be settled into jobs.
Thanks for the info though!

[3fromSA]

hi helen - OH is also a graphic designer and were moving to auckland in August!!! will keep you posted on whats happening whe we get there,hope to both have jobs within 3 months!(im an aromatherapist - and there are no positions ever advertised for this)

[Sheldon]

How are things going with the move?

[5kings]

How are things going with the move?


We have decided to have a recce trip (I am sure this will convince OH it's a good move) so we are saving up and hope to do a visit next year! We have a lot of saving to do with 5 of us, but fingers crossed we can do it.

Helen