[Sheldon]

Please could someone help me with this, I'm a bit confused! Under what conditions will NZIS grant work to residence instead of Permanent Residence? The reason for my question is that my (unselected) EOI currently has 120 points. If I get selected, what are my chances of being denied PR, and getting WTR instead, and what would be the contributing factors to this happening. If there is a risk that I might only get WTR, should I change the EOI and make my wife the principal applicant. She is on the Skills shortage list (nurse), and I'm not. Thanks!

[Kalla]

hi

there have been some posts on this before - do a search you should come up with something.

I think what's been discussed in the past is that that without a job offer, everyone gets a PR interview when they get past all the other hurdles. In that interview they are looking to see how well you will settle in NZ and so the answers that you give in your interview could be the deciding factor.

Mainly they focus of jobs/your ability to get a job/how much preparation you've done etc. If you can prove that you are prepared and you have done your research about NZ and the job market and have some job leads or know how to go about getting a job once you get there you will probably be ok and get pr.

Other deciding factors which seem to have made a difference in the past are english language ability (which has a large bearing on whether you'll be able to get by in NZ and find a job etc)

what seems to have made little difference to the decision is whether or not you have been to NZ before and whether you have relatives/friends as support.

Basically, swat up and make sure that you have a action plan to present to your interviewer to show them how prepared you are and what you've done so far to look for work

[Sheldon]

Thanks that is a help. So a poor English speaker who has never heard of seek or trademe, and who thinks that Christchurch is a suburb of Wellington may struggle to get PR?

[Toonster]

When I had my interview, my CO said that WTR was granted instead of PR if they felt that you wouldn't be able to either find work or settle properly. So, being able to show that you have really done your homework (and that you know there are bad things as well as good - this forum really helps there!), and that you aren't going to sit down and give up at the first hurdle (i.e. if you can't find work in your chosen city, being prepared to move / lower your wages expectations etc etc) will help :nice1

[Sheldon]

Thanks Toonster. Thats a big help. Am I right in saying that having a financial safety net should also be a factor? For example if I can prove that I have enough emergency funds to tide me and the family over for 6 - 9 months in the event of not finding work immediately?

[Toonster]

I wasn't asked this specifically in my interview; however the ITA does ask you to make a declaration that you have "sufficient personal resources to maintain [yourself and your] dependants for at least [your] first 24 months in New Zealand" and to say whether this would be through personal assets or through a job (though proof of a job offer is needed to tick this box).

I was able in my interview to talk about the time a few years ago when my husband was unemployed and minimum wage employed for six months, and we were pretty much just living on my salary; hence knowing how to tighten our belts and live to the bare minimum - I think that helped as well.

[snailandthewhale]

Mrs Sheldon (armed with the NZ nurse reg) could get a job and then it'd be fast-tracked. If you know which area you fancy, check out the local DHB vacancies, usually a telephone job interview is fine and then you probably wouldn't have an immigration interview. Remember coming in as a skilled migrant you only have to stick the job for 3 months..............

[Sheldon]

Mrs Sheldon (armed with the NZ nurse reg) could get a job and then it'd be fast-tracked. If you know which area you fancy, check out the local DHB vacancies, usually a telephone job interview is fine and then you probably wouldn't have an immigration interview. Remember coming in as a skilled migrant you only have to stick the job for 3 months..............

Good advice. Only problem is Mrs Sheldon wants to be a stay at home Mom, so that would be a last resort. Fortunately we aren't in any break neck rush to go, so I'm happy to let the process unfold at a relatively modest pace.

[stephenom]

In our interview the CO told us that they rarely give out WTR visas, he said they only give it if they think you are not intending to find work as soon as you get there so i'm not sure if your OH is wanting to be a stay at home mum will affect you. Also we were never asked about how much money we have to support ourself.

[Sheldon]

I will be the principal applicant so will it matter if my OH is not intending to work?

[JandM]

I will be the principal applicant so will it matter if my OH is not intending to work?No, not at all. If you are granted PR without conditions (that is, without a Clause 18a attached), there are no constraints on what you do, either. (Apart from the need to support yourselves, of course.)

[carahafner]

Just be aware that in your interview, the case officer will be determining whether you, as the principal applicant, will be able to secure a job. It doesn't matter that your OH has her nursing registration (and is therefore highly employable) if you are the one listed as the principal applicant. You might consider changing her to the primary applicant. I think it would be unlikely for her to be offered WTR over PR with her being a nurse and having work experience.

I am happy to share our family's experience with a previous residence application if you wish. Just PM me.

[kejktfc]

Just to jump in on this, my wife is a Nurse and we will be looking to highlight her as the principal applicant. We were looking to go towards the WTR route but from what I have read here, I take it that this avenue is not one the Immigration Dept will favour. This for speed of process.

We have no probs with this as if this route were taken we would be going for PR pretty much straight away. The reasoning behind this is I felt it would offer a quicker route to NZ, given that much is dependent on the sale of our house (she is in Peadiatrics and will be looking to secure a position at the Starship in Auckland, once she has passed her eilts next week and registration with the NZ Nursing, I hope.......!!!), and once that is concluded we felt it progress the move quicker.

So, just to sum, would it be better for us to send in our EOI, get all that sorted without a job offer, and then when and if it comes, continue the process with the ITA and all the associated? For the record I hold a degree from a red brick University

Sorry to jump in Sheldon, but given our circumstances are pretty alike I am sure you won't mind...... especially given that I am from a SA background...:D
(mother and family from Cape Town and I am a first generation Brit, though I sit and type this with my Springboks Rugby shirt on :cheers)


kejktfc

[bobo]

No, not at all. If you are granted PR without conditions (that is, without a Clause 18a attached), there are no constraints on what you do, either. (Apart from the need to support yourselves, of course.)

It may however effect your ability to get an IRRV later. There are a few things they take into consideration, but paying tax is one.

[IanW99]

It may however effect your ability to get an IRRV later. There are a few things they take into consideration, but paying tax is one.

Tax status doesn't come into it if you have spent the requisite amount of time in NZ.

1) Time spent in New Zealand
If you have held residence permits for a total of 184 days or more in each of the two 12 month portions of the 24 months immediately preceding your RRV application;

If you don't meet this requirement, then there are other requirements that you could meet, one of which is your tax status.

Ian

[Sheldon]

Just to jump in on this, my wife is a Nurse and we will be looking to highlight her as the principal applicant. We were looking to go towards the WTR route but from what I have read here, I take it that this avenue is not one the Immigration Dept will favour. This for speed of process.

We have no probs with this as if this route were taken we would be going for PR pretty much straight away. The reasoning behind this is I felt it would offer a quicker route to NZ, given that much is dependent on the sale of our house (she is in Peadiatrics and will be looking to secure a position at the Starship in Auckland, once she has passed her eilts next week and registration with the NZ Nursing, I hope.......!!!), and once that is concluded we felt it progress the move quicker.

So, just to sum, would it be better for us to send in our EOI, get all that sorted without a job offer, and then when and if it comes, continue the process with the ITA and all the associated? For the record I hold a degree from a red brick University

Sorry to jump in Sheldon, but given our circumstances are pretty alike I am sure you won't mind...... especially given that I am from a SA background...:D
(mother and family from Cape Town and I am a first generation Brit, though I sit and type this with my Springboks Rugby shirt on :cheers)


kejktfc

No worries! Wear that Bok jersey with pride. 2-1 :clap. Just a word of warning, don't submit the EOI without having secured nursing council registration. Also, read my recent post about nursing council registration for a few tips. Good lick with the IELTS!

[Sheldon]

Just be aware that in your interview, the case officer will be determining whether you, as the principal applicant, will be able to secure a job. It doesn't matter that your OH has her nursing registration (and is therefore highly employable) if you are the one listed as the principal applicant. You might consider changing her to the primary applicant. I think it would be unlikely for her to be offered WTR over PR with her being a nurse and having work experience.

I am happy to share our family's experience with a previous residence application if you wish. Just PM me.

Thanks - have PM'd you.