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Baby milk formula - for babies with allergies


Kea
31st July 2009, 07:35 PM
I'd like to start DD on some formula. We tied her on S26 but she spat it out in disgust! She's also developed excema already so I'd like to use a part or fully hydrolysed formula which is recommended by the research review in the UK.

Can anyone recommend a formula for fussy babies with allergies?

Thanks

Julie

Georgebulldog
31st July 2009, 08:17 PM
pm nippa&pippa she may be able to help sorry I can't

benandclare
1st August 2009, 12:07 AM
Whats wrong with natures own ....

All the formula milks are basically the same unless you go to a specialist milk - best to see a dietician (or your GP).

Clare

M-Squared
1st August 2009, 12:24 AM
Whats wrong with natures own ....

All the formula milks are basically the same unless you go to a specialist milk - best to see a dietician (or your GP).

Clare

I do agree with Clare, but know that sometimes it's just not possible for various personal reasons. I'm afraid I can't help with this, sorry, my littl'un is well too old for formula.

sophiedb
1st August 2009, 03:54 AM
From http://www.allergy.org.nz/about+allergies/eczema.html :

Formula: If it isn't possible to breastfeed, a hydrolysed (hypo-allergenic) formula rather than conventional cow's milk formula is recommended in the first six months of life. Although both extensively hydrolysed and partially hydrolysed formulas have been shown to have protective effects, only partially hydrolysed formula is available in Australia and New Zealand without prescription. Extensively hydrolysed formula is more expensive and are usually reserved for infants with established cow's milk allergies. Soy and Goat's milk formulae are not recommended for the prevention of food allergy. (my emphasis)

Chances are that your best bet will be to seek out that kind of formula via a GP, even if it's only partially hydrolysed that's available.

If the main issue is DD's eczema and you're currently breastfeeding, have you tried cutting dairy out of your diet? Eczema in babies is often triggered by lactose intolerance or cow's protein intolerance, and even hyrolysed formula can't top breastmilk for prevention.

Regards her general dislike of the formula you've already tried, that may happen with any of them. When we had to switch our DD onto formula (I need medical treatment that made it very unsafe with bf) we mixed expressed breastmilk with formula, changing the proportions over a few weeks. We later followed the same process when switching from formula to whole cow's milk she turned 1 year old.

YouMeAndThree
1st August 2009, 11:03 AM
pm nippa&pippa she may be able to help sorry I can't


That would be my suggestion too :nice1

Kea
1st August 2009, 12:09 PM
Thanks Sophie- I've been reading the Cochrane review on this in the UK and am keen to use a fully hydrolysed formula as you suggest. I asked my GP about it but suspect she hadn't heard of them.

I think I'll give Plunkett a ring but am a bit fed up with the pressure they have been putting on me re exclusive breastfeeding. If not, I'll go back to my GP.

Thanks for the hint about mixing the milk. Just like with the cat!

KerryS
1st August 2009, 03:53 PM
I can ask my tutor at Uni if you like - one of them specialises in infant nutrition, so she should be able to suggest an alternative to off the shelf formulas.

Tia Maria
2nd August 2009, 10:34 PM
Whats wrong with natures own ....

All the formula milks are basically the same unless you go to a specialist milk - best to see a dietician (or your GP).

Clare

All formula milks are not the same, I've seen situations time and time again where a baby has not settled on one formula but has been fine on another, often just different brands off the shelf sometimes on the advice of various healthcare professionals or Mum's with babies with similar problems.

Sorry to hear Plunkett have been putting on the pressure, some people just seem unable to discuss the various feeding options without making Mums feel guilty or piling on moral judgements.

The majority of woman today know the advantages of breastfeeding but there are a million and one reasons why this doesn't work out and they make the change to formula. Its then so annoying when people are moralising about it rather than working on the assumption that its been a difficult decision for the Mum and she needs support.

Anyway a friend suggested reading this article:

http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Research/Hydrolysed-casein-formula-may-slash-eczema-in-infants

Good luck with it all. :)

Cheers

Tia

Georgebulldog
3rd August 2009, 10:40 AM
All formula milks are not the same, I've seen situations time and time again where a baby has not settled on one formula but has been fine on another, often just different brands off the shelf sometimes on the advice of various healthcare professionals or Mum's with babies with similar problems.

Sorry to hear Plunkett have been putting on the pressure, some people just seem unable to discuss the various feeding options without making Mums feel guilty or piling on moral judgements.

The majority of woman today know the advantages of breastfeeding but there are a million and one reasons why this doesn't work out and they make the change to formula. Its then so annoying when people are moralising about it rather than working on the assumption that its been a difficult decision for the Mum and she needs support.

Anyway a friend suggested reading this article:

http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Research/Hydrolysed-casein-formula-may-slash-eczema-in-infants

Good luck with it all. :)

Cheers

Tia

Agree with everything Tia says, my 1st was fed one forula but suffered colic told by health visitor to try a different brand & it worked wonders.
Stick to your guns Julie & do what you want to do. I was told I would get lots of pressure because I didn't want to breast feed, too quick in the UK to give a bottle in hospital when I tried with dd1, but in Wellington it was fine, the hospital was great & not made to feel guilty at all. My midwife was a bit funny but it's your life your baby do what you want
Good luck

jubjub
3rd August 2009, 11:39 AM
the formula I hear of a lot for reflux/allergy is Neocate, and you have to get it on prescription.

hongangel
12th August 2009, 02:18 PM
It is the wheather, not the formular.
try put on lots of layers of lotion on her body on
every nappy time.
it works for my son sometimes.

Familyofmonkeys
12th August 2009, 02:31 PM
It is the wheather, not the formular.
try put on lots of layers of lotion on her body on
every nappy time.
it works for my son sometimes.

This is one heck of a sweeping statement. Eczema can be a very debilitating condition, and whilst the weather can have an impact on the severity of the ezcema some of the time, it in no way rules out the likelihood of an intollerance or allergy causing the condition in a large proportion of children with the condition. Stick on some lotion and all will be alright attitude does not work for the vast majority of eczema sufferers.
I don't believe you are in any position to make statements as above, when you have no way of knowing whether the OP's child has eczema as a result of drinking formula or whether some other unrelated factor is having an effect.

hongangel
13th August 2009, 05:56 PM
Well, that advice was from my doctor. My son has Eczema too. He has very dry skins and rash on his joints on legs and hands. Doctor said it is due to the dry skin plus the wheather. So asked me to apply as many as lotion on the skins and joints.

Agree with you, different kid has different situation.
A

Kea
14th August 2009, 07:59 PM
I used to use a lot of aqueous cream, as perscribed by my doc- I was using it several times a day. Turned out I was allergic to it, and it made my skin a lot worse. So now I use as few lotions and potions as possible for myself and the baby.


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