[Duncan74]

How long do they keep them? Do they keep the copies and post back the originals straight away?

[charliesdad]

they keep all of our original documents and only returned them when they sent the passports back with the blue stickers.
we requested all our passports back earlier as we were going on holiday, and then when the PR was granted we posted them back.
Hope it goes well for you.
:nice1

[Duncan74]

This is NZQA, not NZIS.

Thanks anyway.

[atuffchick]

NZQA keeps the original documents until they have "closed the application"

They send the originals back with the final evaluation.

[Duncan74]

Ar$e

[beater]

Actually you can ask them to send it back earlier if they take too long. My assesment took about a year and at some point I got fed up and complained. After my second or third complaint they sent my original papers back and only about two months afterwards the assesment was finalised.

[pkrish]

Hi

Actually, I have some queries below
1) Whether to go NZQA fast track or standard. Because I have to apply ITA within date.
I have asked local NZ immi branch, since Qualifications policy changed after EOI Selection, I have to do NZQA for me and my partner.

Whether ITA application could be lodged with evidence of NZQA assessment and submit NZQA-IQA report later. I asked local NZ immi branch, they said, to apply with evidence of NZQA Assessment. Evidence means- do NZQA send email acknowledgement of receiving and informing file reference number and or also send a hard copy of acknowledgement?. Whether email print out of acknowledgement is OK to Submit the ITA if hard copy takes time?

Secondly. Is it compulsory to send original documents for IQA from overseas also. is it ok and reliable.

EOI - Selected-4th Nov
EOI decision- 13th Nov
ITA Received - 27Nov

[JandM]

I don't know an answer for you, but hello and welcome. :)

[Duncan74]

Has absolultely to be originals, not even witnessed copies. And depends on your courier service, without being a broken record I was very worried about this, paid an absolute fortune for courier, and they still lost all my originals for the best part of a month.

As for timescales, you need to pay the premium or get the NZQA in early. If the premium fails to return oin teh timescale oyu need for the ITA then you may get a sympathetic CO who will allow you to send the NZQA assessment after the rest of the ITA is lodged, but you must show you've done everything you can to get the assessment in time. The ITA 'window' is 4 months, so even the slow way should be in plenty of time.

[pkrish]

Hi All,
Thanks for you quick reply...

My EOI was Approved and 'Decision Succesful' on 13thNov. At the time my and my spouse's qualifications were not required to do NZQA, because they were on the 'Qualififactions Exempts List' and Filled the EOI Form straight way without a PAR.

Now we are on way to appy ITA, amidst came the new policy changes for Qualifications Assessment following 30th Nov2009. Our Qualiications follows within 'Effective Dates' of degrees Awarded in new policy doc. We are confused as whether to go for NZQA or not..
This is because when we called NZIS in NZ -

1)First person, after taking details, told that NZQA is required for both.
2)Since the telephone line diconnected, I again called NZIS in NZ - some other person on the line said - You both Do not require NZQA, because the EOI is already approved before policy change.
3) To again confirm to the surprise....I wrote an email to Local Branch office and got the reply as -> you both require to do NZQA to be able to lodge ITA and can lodge ITA with acknowledge of NZQA asessment and submit detail report later.
4) So I Called NZIS (NZ office) to confirm back, A person on phone said that she will email me back...
5) Meanwhile,I thought not to do Spouse Qualifications assessments. So to ask how this can effect the already approved EOI of mine, My spouse called NZIS(NZ office). At that time, the person on the call, took the details and said that -> Since your EOI was approved before policy change, so you both do not require to do NZQA.

Now Iam really confused...Parallely Im preparing for NZQA, I thought to go for fast track for me and Standard way for spouse assessment....but since the above NZQA matter is putting me in confusion, I dont know what to do....At this time Iam thinking to Apply for the Standard NZQA for both of us instead fast track to save on money.

Now I dont know whether this EOI to ITA lodgement is without a NZQA or with NZQA.

However, I am thinking to call again and this time I will say them to send a confirm letter or email on above matter, which will also apply to CO as well during the ITA assessment.

Any advise suggestions...please help

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Secondly, I need some suggestion on Police certificate or Police Clearance Certificate (PCC).
since 8 months, Iam living in another country for company work and my spouse joined me since 3 months back only...According to Police certificate policy document..
A person lived for a period of 12months or more in a country should get a Police certificate from that country plus one from country of citizen if lived there.

Iam thinking that in my case a police certificate would not be required from here(another country) where I am living right now, since I completed 8 months only and spouse completed 3 months only. I have only applied for PCC in my home country where i lived.

I wrote an email to local NZ branch, got reply ->
"You and your spouse will required PCC from there too"........here Iam surprised

Any suggestion/Advice on above query, please help
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Thanks

[Duncan74]

No idea on the PCC, but re the NZQA then I'd email as then you've got documentary evidence for use later. My understanding of what was explained to me is that as the EOI was in before the policy change then the old policy could be used, although that may have been specific to the UK quals list for some reason I suppose. However, if they do ask you to go for NZQA, then email NZQA first as they may themselves say no - it's on the LOQEA list. Providing full details of your qualifications in both emails would strengthen your case.

[three to go]

Secondly. Is it compulsory to send original documents for IQA from overseas also. is it ok and reliable.



Depends what you mean by 'documents' pkrish....

Following instructions from NZQA, I sent original qualification documents and transcripts.

However, other documents were certified copies of the originals - specifically, birth certificate and marriage certificate as some of my quals were in my maiden name.

[pkrish]

Thanks!

Iam tempted to send certified copies to NZQA and then if they request then send originals, any idea/experience?

Duncan74..I believe you asked the same question earlier; finally what then you do for NZQA?

cheers


Depends what you mean by 'documents' pkrish....

Following instructions from NZQA, I sent original qualification documents and transcripts.

However, other documents were certified copies of the originals - specifically, birth certificate and marriage certificate as some of my quals were in my maiden name.

[Duncan74]

Oiginals for me, although that all went wrong when they were lost in the post, had to get new originals at a fair old cost, then the lost package was found in Moscow and finally forwarded to Wellington the day after I got the replacements and the day before they changed the rules so that I didn't even need NZQA and so they posted it all back unassessed. But my reading was originals are needed.

[three to go]

Hi pkrish

Check page 25 of the NZQA guide for completing the application for IQA:

http://www.nzqa.govt.nz/for-international/docs/guide-qar.pdf


Q. Which document types will NZQA accept a certified copy of?
Certified copies of the following documents are acceptable:
· Complete copies of official academic syllabus / curriculum
· Deed poll or marriage certificates showing change of name, if applicable.
· Passport and birth certificates.

Q. What are certified copies?
Certified copies are photocopies that have been stamped and endorsed by a person who certifies
that the copy is a true copy of the original. The person who certifies the copy must be an official of
the issuing authority or a person authorised by law in your home country or in New Zealand to
certify documents. In New Zealand this is a Justice of the Peace, a lawyer, or a court official. A
signature is required on each page with the name and title of the official shown legibly below their
signature. Please note that certified copies of original award certificates and transcripts are not
permissible.

Hope this helps.
TTG

[pkrish]

Hi
Thanks for all replies.



No idea on the PCC, but re the NZQA then I'd email as then you've got documentary evidence for use later. My understanding of what was explained to me is that as the EOI was in before the policy change then the old policy could be used, although that may have been specific to the UK quals list for some reason I suppose. However, if they do ask you to go for NZQA, then email NZQA first as they may themselves say no - it's on the LOQEA list. Providing full details of your qualifications in both emails would strengthen your case.

I got email reply from NZQA. They say that it is completely up to me and NZQA does not require have an assessment done for my and spouse qualifications. However, they said, to consult the end user of the assessment report as to whether or not I am required to have it done.

I also got reply from my NZ branch office of home country and they advised me that because I would be submitting application after changed rule date, changed rule applies and therefore need to have IQA from NZQA while submitting ITA to claim points.

I am really very confused....NZQA does not require my and my spouse's qualfications to be assessed....
But rules changed amidst while applying ITA.

Whom should I listen to NZIS contact centre person (dont know whether the person had consult with any Visa Officer ) or
NZ Local Branch Centre where I will be submitting ITA ?

If NZQA would require only to send certified copies and less fees then I straight away done whether required or not.

However thinking on what to do.
Any suggestions/advise?

Thanks!

[Duncan74]

If it were me I'd reply to NZIS attaching the email from NZQA and ask for clarification as there is clearly a difference of opinion.

But my view is that NZIS makes the ultimate decision.

[pkrish]

right! Its ultimately NZIS.
However, opinion within NZIS (NewZeland) from two person is differing (one with consulting a visa officer says - 'Yes', another person on phone says 'NO'.
Also got reply from INZ Branch office India surely insists that 'Yes', IQA is required for ITA....

What to do- should I go with person saying 'NO' or with person saying 'YES'

any suggestions/advice...



If it were me I'd reply to NZIS attaching the email from NZQA and ask for clarification as there is clearly a difference of opinion.

But my view is that NZIS makes the ultimate decision.

[JandM]

You say one NZIS person has consulted a visa officer - that sounds more likely to be the senior in rank and experience, so if this were my case, I'd believe them rather than whoever is answering the phone.

Yes, it is annoying if you have to spend money doing some procedure that *perhaps* is not necessary. But (as with all points in the ITA) rather send them too much support for what you put on the form than not enough. If there's too much, they'll just shrug and ignore it, whereas if there's something they (think they) need to see and it's not there, either you get a whole long delay when they tell you to supply extra proof and you have to provide it, or, worse, they reject you. It's getting to NZ, the end goal, that matters most, not if this or that official is reading the rulebook correctly. That's the way I'd look at it, but of course it's your decision.

[Duncan74]

Again, I'd say to send the email, and then when you get the email back from NZIS follow that. If htey say 'no need' then print that email off and include with the ITA, which is what I was told to do by my CO so that all the discussions are available for whoever ends up reviewing your application.

[pkrish]

Hi

Got reply from NZIS and required to do NZQA. In my EOI form, NZQA is optional while in ITA, but Iam required to do (rule change). However, In addition, I also asked to NZIS about whether I should submit NQZA Acknowledge Reciept or I should submit full NZQA Report while lodging an ITA application. I am told that I could lodge the ITA Application with only evidence of NZQA assessment and submit the report later.

should Acknowledge Reciept or Evidence of NZQA is ok while lodging ITA application and submit full report later? Thus, this also relates to whether I should choose fast track or not at the moment. If I choose fast track, may be report can come before ITA submission due date. But if only NZQA acknowledgement works, than I can opt for Standard process of NZQA.
Any suggestions/Advice?

Thanks

[Duncan74]

The advice I got was that they may be flexible with the info to follow, but only if you've done all that you can to get the assessment done in the time. Therefore, I'd suggest that you may be best going for the fast track.

But that's just my opinion.