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One year back in the UK


wiki
30th September 2009, 09:26 AM
Hoping a few folks around here remember me?
Not logged in for about five months - but just spent a very nice 20 mins catching up on the house-building threads. They look lovely!

But I wanted to post as we've been back in the UK for one year exactly, today.

WARNING VERY LONG POST AHEAD!!

A quick background for those not familiar with us:
I'm a Kiwi (from Te Anau/Invercargill) who lived in the UK for 10 years and got curious about life back home in Southland.
My OH got a visa after we applied for a medical waiver (quite easy, in retrospect, but pretty fraught during the process) and I secured a really good paying job back in Invercargill before we arrived in NZ in late Sept 2007. We're both in our early 30s and have no kids - nor plan to.

We had a really good year in NZ - apart from the coal range in our rental exploding and an infected spider bite for OH that was super painful - and my family loves OH and there was heaps we really enjoyed about NZ. But we both felt a strong pull to be back in the UK.

So when my old employer offered me my old job back we leapt at it, and came back to Yorkshire a year ago.

Well hindsight is a wonderful thing but overall... we're very, very glad we came back to the UK.

This country suits us better for many reasons: OH is a trained archaeologist, so we knew moving to a country with little history would be a push. But what we both missed most was having all of Europe on our doorstep.
NZ just felt very isolated to us, despite us being quite "homebody-ish".

Even though I'm now facing redundancy at work *wah* (it's a 50/50 chance) I'd still rather have the chance to fight for my UK job than stay in my NZ job. I'm one of the few who found NZ working more stressful and less rewarding.

One thing that might have tipped the scales in NZ's favour was if we had cash to buy a no-mortgage/low-mortgage house out there. We were renting in the UK/renting in NZ/and back to renting in the UK and the cost of moving to NZ put a big dent in our house-buying fund.

But in retrospect, that was a good thing as we would have bought at the back end of 2007 if we'd stayed in the UK, and that was at market peak.
We lived comfortably on my $60k wage and OH working part-time/freelance but didn't have much space for saving at all - and that's in Invercargill, one of the cheapest places in the country. I'd be very wary if I was going to a bigger city on that wage without a house deposit in my back pocket and a reasonable contingency fund.

We do miss the people of NZ and the laid back nature. Even in our smallish Yorkshire village there's a noticable air of up-tightness which is just "British".
We also hugely miss my family - OH's UK family isn't much fun and we didn't miss them at all - but my family is pretty ace and they're probably the only thing we'd go back for.

So the plan now is to stay in Yorkshire - save what we can, win the lottery (haha) and be in a position where we don't need to work and then apply back to NZ and get a nice beach house overlooking Curio Bay in the Catlins.

The chances of this happening are tiny... but it's a nice dream. :D

The best thing about going to NZ and coming back?: We both learnt so much more about each other (Despite being together for five years before we went)
We understand what makes each other tick so much better. We know what we can cope with, what we rely on each other for and just how strong our relationship is.

Going to NZ might have cost us several thousand in moving costs and airfares... but we wouldn't have traded that time for the world.

Best wishes to everyone settled in NZ, unsettled in NZ and still dreaming of NZ... I hope you all get the outcome that's best for you - we did!

JandM
30th September 2009, 09:38 AM
Hello - good to see you, and hear that all's going well for you both. :nice1

Helsandfamily
30th September 2009, 10:02 AM
Thanks for the update, Glad to hear that it has worked out well for you!

Jo Jo
30th September 2009, 11:01 AM
Hello! I was just thinking about you the other day. It's so nice to read your update - I'm glad all's well. Good luck with your job.

Wooly_Cow
30th September 2009, 11:31 AM
This country suits us better for many reasons: OH is a trained archaeologist, so we knew moving to a country with little history would be a push. But what we both missed most was having all of Europe on our doorstep.
Though not trained, history is a bit of a hobby for me so coming here meant having to reassess that...thank God for the Internet and libraries.

I also spent a lot of time in Europe - and do miss the variety a bit.



Even though I'm now facing redundancy at work *wah* (it's a 50/50 chance) I'd still rather have the chance to fight for my UK job than stay in my NZ job.


I am facing a similar situation with similar chances :( Being in NZ, you have to do the maths - job market here is in the low millions of jobs total, and single figures for the numebr of compnaies in my field....in the UK it's over ten times that and if you include Europe it's 50 times as big...Yes I know more people going for jobs but there are just more opportunties. If it happens to me, I'll give myself a few months looking here....then ????



One thing that might have tipped the scales in NZ's favour was if we had cash to buy a no-mortgage/low-mortgage house out there. We were renting in the UK/renting in NZ/and back to renting in the UK and the cost of moving to NZ put a big dent in our house-buying fund.


Actually it's the reverse for us. The pound crashing recently means we can't find a house to buy here (actually independant of the money we can't find a house to buy but thats a different story. In the UK we could probably get a house we like with little or no mortgage
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Even in our smallish Yorkshire village


Which village? I grew up in Gods Own county - If I could get a decent job there it would be top of the list of places I would go back to if I had to



Going to NZ might have cost us several thousand in moving costs and airfares... but we wouldn't have traded that time for the world.



...ummm several thousand and then some but given that everybody has lost money recently (well most people have...in the UK they reckon every household is 35,000 pounds worse off now) and trading savings / house value for this experience has certainly been worth it

Arwen
30th September 2009, 12:39 PM
Hi there Wiki

Glad to hear that you and your OH are happy and settled back in the UK. As I always say "it's horses for courses". "One mans castle......etc" (crikey, I sound about 90 years old)!!!:laugh:exit

Anyway, keep those dreams alive and who knows, maybe one day you'll have a nice permanent residence in the UK along with that lovely beach side house in NZ for those long '6 months at a time' holidays.:nice1

Never say never. :)

zardell
30th September 2009, 02:11 PM
Hi Wiki.

Haven't posted on here since, well, I can't remember when, but I just read your post and felt I had to reply.

Glad to hear that you both feel you made the right decision when you came back to the UK, even though living under the threat of redundancy can't be pleasant. Hope that all works out right for you.

As you know, we came back just over a year ago and we know that it was the right decision.
I love my life here and wouldn't trade it to go back to NZ or Oz. I must say though that I do look back on my 'Down Under' years and smile when I recall the good times that I spent with some very good friends and I wouldn't trade those memories either.

Keep on buying those lottery tickets and keep your dream alive!

Maybe one day we'll have the forums ex-pat Ex-Pat Meet!!!

Take care,

Julie

xx

Sam B
30th September 2009, 05:22 PM
Wow, is it a year already? Great to hear that you made the right decision, and it's all working out. I'll keep my fingers crossed for your job.

ellenmelon
30th September 2009, 06:54 PM
I remember you :) (and the incident when you're stove exploded!) Good to hear things are going well all things considered back in the UK.

"Old stuff" is not something we have a lot of (compared to Europe) here, so can totally get why your OH would find it a bit hard here. My sister came back to NZ to study archeo and anthro (or similar), but after a semester decided to go back and study in Bournemouth and has had so many great opportunities to 'dig up old stuff'. Sounds like where you're at is a better fit for you now.

bilbo baggins
30th September 2009, 07:44 PM
Great post and thanks for sharing it with us. Good luck in Yorkshire, love the place as grew up in Ilkley. Time will tell for us but your post rung many bells here and my gut feeling is we will head back in a year or two but much the better for the experience.

Enjoy and if you follow the well known verse you won't go far wrong!
See all hear all and say nowt
Eat all drink all and pay nowt
And if thee ever does owt for nowt
do it for thee sen.

Sure you have heard this many times but for those that haven't!

Bilbo

Bruckner
30th September 2009, 08:07 PM
Nice to hear from you Wiki and glad to hear you're happy and settled.

And the same to Julie - you were so supportive when I was going through ITA issues.

Emily

unar
30th September 2009, 09:21 PM
Good to hear from you! Winning the lottery is our Plan A. :)

Belmont Babes
1st October 2009, 01:37 AM
Great to hear from you Wiki and all the best in Blighty. I do miss your posts :yes

Leo
1st October 2009, 11:36 AM
Thank you Wiki, for your insightful post and all the best in Yorkshire :nice1

It appears that a growing quorum amongst us have a wee plan featuring the lotteries :D How about a little show of hands for those going for this week's $23 million Lotto Powerball draw?

... Be honest, all ye closet punters! :laugh

Tia Maria
1st October 2009, 08:05 PM
Wiki! Great to hear from you!

Good to hear its going well - never a dull moment eh?! :D

Cheers

Tia

mgbridges
1st October 2009, 09:32 PM
Great to hear from you Wiki! I too remember the exploding stove, did you ever get over the shock? :)

Good to hear that you feel the move back to Blighty was the right one for you both. Say hello to Huddersfield for us if you ever past nearby!

Hope things work out positively on the job front for you - good luck!

Anneliese

M-Squared
1st October 2009, 10:50 PM
Glad all is working out. :)

leachio
2nd October 2009, 05:57 AM
:nice1 Wiki!!!

Big up Yorkshire :laugh:laugh:laugh

wiki
3rd October 2009, 10:13 PM
Aw what an amazing response. That's what I love about ENZ - you can go missing for nine months and still get a response like you've never been away.

Just about to jump into the car for a week in Whitby - it's no Coromandel or Curio Bay - but my favourite UK beach "resort" lol.

Thanks for the sweet wishes, and I'll try to get on here more often in future so if anyone has any medical waiver or Southland questions I can still try to help. I just realised I've popped up to five green squares, so I really should continue to try to be useful!

To those on the way to NZ - good luck, I hope the paperwork goes swiftly and smoothly.

For those in NZ - have the best time you can while you're there, and if you do feel you need to go "home" don't see it as a failure - see it as an affirmation of your sense of adventure in the first place. You might be poorer in pocket, but so much richer in life experience :) :clap:nice1

katandbob
6th October 2009, 03:22 PM
ah I wondered why you never replied to my text!
but glad to see you are both happy....good job i didnt call in the other week when I drove past your house (ex house)
I was on a rare early day at work...my new job of nearly a year, is full on and I wish i could find another that didnt require the hours, but with the wage i get...thats the dairy industry for you, 60+ hrs in the summer and 28hrs in winter!
I want to be outside with the horses in summer, not in an office and in winter I'd rather be in a heated office instead of burning my wood pile LOL
the resession has hit here but obviously not as bad as other areas,
so good luck and dont forget to text if you come out on holiday again!

Kat

leachio
7th October 2009, 06:34 AM
helllllooooooooooo Kat,

How nice to see a forum member from my days lol!

U guys still luvin ur busy NZ lives I gather, did u have a grand child couple yrs ago? R u still gettin ur visits in?

Take care Amanda :)

katandbob
23rd October 2009, 10:12 PM
helllllooooooooooo Kat,

How nice to see a forum member from my days lol!

U guys still luvin ur busy NZ lives I gather, did u have a grand child couple yrs ago? R u still gettin ur visits in?

Take care Amanda :)

Hi Amanda

Yes Rachel and Rick moved to NZ last year, and Cole is 4 in January
and another due in April:clap

we are busy with life, its been a bit tough this winter as work dried up for Rob but now he is in work again (and my garden is weed free!):D

sasvanb
23rd October 2009, 10:43 PM
For those in NZ - have the best time you can while you're there, and if you do feel you need to go "home" don't see it as a failure - see it as an affirmation of your sense of adventure in the first place. You might be poorer in pocket, but so much richer in life experience

Thank you for this Wiki. Made me smile. For someone who has had a real dose of 'up and down' over the past couple of months... well I think I will print it out and stick it on my wall...

Glad to hear things are working out for you. Home is where you are happy and happy is when you're home. :yes Just have to work out the 'home' bit. :laugh

Saskia

leachio
24th October 2009, 07:21 AM
Hi Amanda

Yes Rachel and Rick moved to NZ last year, and Cole is 4 in January
and another due in April:clap

we are busy with life, its been a bit tough this winter as work dried up for Rob but now he is in work again (and my garden is weed free!):D

wow they moved out there too? thats great for u all, Im delighted for ya xx


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