handmade Cornish pasties
victoria24
2nd November 2009, 10:17 AM
would there be a demand for these if a friend of mine opened up a bakery? how much would you pay for one?
mylesdw
2nd November 2009, 10:44 AM
Love real pasties! Cost-wise I guess comparable with the more 'gourmet' pies so $3 - $4 or maybe more if they are pretty large.
Georgebulldog
2nd November 2009, 11:16 AM
Our butchers sell them for $6 or $4 frozen, yet to try them & their scotch eggs which are huge. I would love to see more available as miss these things when packing a picnic
victoria24
2nd November 2009, 11:57 AM
Lindsey.. are they real proper pasties as in hand crimped etc?
Flutterby
2nd November 2009, 12:10 PM
but it wouldn't be a cornish pasty if its not in cornwall!
Janey
2nd November 2009, 12:37 PM
and not the ginsters rubbish too! clotted cream would be great too!:laugh
victoria24
2nd November 2009, 01:08 PM
these would be hand made in nz by a cornishman!
YouMeAndThree
2nd November 2009, 01:26 PM
http://www.emigratenz.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20975&highlight=cornish
A previous example - maybe useful
IanW99
2nd November 2009, 02:38 PM
would there be a demand for these if a friend of mine opened up a bakery? how much would you pay for one?
These are now common in New World and Pak n Save to name two where I have seen them recently.
So yes there must be some demand, also you could use them as a basis for how much would you pay, they are $2.80 from Pak n Save.
Ian
Georgebulldog
2nd November 2009, 02:51 PM
Lindsey.. are they real proper pasties as in hand crimped etc?
I know they look just the same as the lovely ones I used to get in Cornwall, reminders of some great hols, I'll have a closer look & buy one next time I pop in later this week & let you know the verdict
mylesdw
2nd November 2009, 03:20 PM
Yes, I had some great hols in Cornwall too. I was camping there in the summer of '76 when the whole place turned brown and looked like parts of Africa! The best pasties we ever found came from a bakery in Marazion and then there was this beer brewed in a pup in Helston, oh, and the rough cider...
GrumpyGoat
2nd November 2009, 03:57 PM
I thought you were just misspelling "pastry" but then I noticed that ALL of you were doing it. And I had no idea what a "cornish pasty" was so I had to google it.
They look delicious!:nice1
And, thanks, I learned something today.
Flutterby
2nd November 2009, 06:33 PM
they ARE delicious!
Sam B
2nd November 2009, 06:38 PM
There is a Cornishman selling handmade Cornish pasties in Cambridge at the farmers' market. It is $6 per pasty, $5.50 for a veggie one. He also sells at Hamilton market and to local New World. He has given up his job as an aeronautical engineer to do this and he says it is a struggle to make ends meet some months, but it is worth it. He has had to build a special catering kitchen in his garden, as you can not sell food made in a non-commercial kitchen.
Timbo
2nd November 2009, 09:37 PM
Myles. I was hitching around good old Kernow in that very summer. That trip holds many fond memories, including a very vague one relating to drinking Spingo in the Blue Anchor, Heston.
Makes me feel rather old thinking about it all.
Ngeru
2nd November 2009, 09:44 PM
Oh my word. don't be fooled by the ones they sell in Pak n Save or New World, they might look the part, but by crikey they are vile. Even the cheap nasty Peters Pies we used to get at the local chippy in the UK were better.
BigRod
3rd November 2009, 03:38 AM
"real meat pies" on White Lines East (Lower Hutt) already make them to a traditional Cornish recipe. His biggest problem is that they have to be seasonal, as outside the parsnip season the parsnip flavour is not good.
HTH
Rod
Mamee & Co
3rd November 2009, 05:16 AM
I think I might come to Cambridge. I loved holidays in Cornwall for the pasties. I found the nicest hot pasty in Tintagel and in Newquay even managed to find a modern sweet apple and custard one! To know I might find one in NZ is fantastic.
Hope your friend's idea takes of mr V.
IanW99
3rd November 2009, 07:31 AM
Oh my word. don't be fooled by the ones they sell in Pak n Save or New World, they might look the part, but by crikey they are vile. Even the cheap nasty Peters Pies we used to get at the local chippy in the UK were better.
AFAIK they are locally sourced, so won't necessarily be the same at each shop. For example, it sounds to me that the ones in Cambridge will be particlularly good - unless of course these are the ones you have tried that are vile?
If you are indeed correct that they are vile, then either they are not being sold (unlikely) or this is what kiwis expect? If that is the case then it may not be a good market to sell a 'traditional' version.
If you mean that their fillings are nothing like a traditional cornish pastie then it also depends on which ones you buy, for example the worst one that I've had was from the Kapiti coast where the filling was actually minced beef with a potato topping - it was actually rather tasty but nothing like a pastie!
Ian
mylesdw
3rd November 2009, 09:35 AM
http://www.cornishpasties.co.nz/
YouMeAndThree
3rd November 2009, 09:46 AM
http://www.cornishpasties.co.nz/
That's who my post referred to (and SamB's), didn't know they'd set up a website, thanks for the link - looks like they are making a very good go of their venture. Well done for them :clap
Sam B
3rd November 2009, 10:59 PM
The Cambridge pasties are fab - very authentic. Saturday mornings - 8am-12pm, town green, farmers' market.
Georgebulldog
8th November 2009, 09:18 AM
OK had a 'Cornish pastie' from the Tawa butchers ($4.20), they buy them in so all he could tell me was they had peas & carrots in. Had it last night & although it was nice it was....yes you guessed it mince :wah just a pie shaped like a pastie. Now I' want a real one, can't remember what was in them anyone help? potatoe carrots but can't for the life of me think what the main ingrediant was.
I still have their own scotch egg to try, this they make there & is huge, will give that a go later, I think I need to give up on the English picnic & go the kiwi way of burgers & BBQ stuff, sounds good to me
victoria24
8th November 2009, 09:28 AM
steak, potato, swede, onion :)
JandM
8th November 2009, 10:11 AM
My Gran would use turnips with or instead of swede, and sometimes included carrot (diced). (That's adding to the post above, not intended to be the whole recipe!)
YouMeAndThree
8th November 2009, 02:54 PM
I was told that you had to use a skirt of beef, whatever that cut is???? (But they were made by rellies in Devon).
Sam B
8th November 2009, 05:17 PM
Yuck - they defo shouldn't have any peas or carrots in them.
Georgebulldog
8th November 2009, 07:41 PM
Yuck - they defo shouldn't have any peas or carrots in them.
Just goes to show how my memories is fading then :) What I'd give for a holiday in Cornwall now, just love that place & all the cream teas, cornish pasties & cream ice creams
Arwen
8th November 2009, 09:13 PM
Ahhhh me too Georgebulldog!! Spent many happy holidays in beautiful Cornwall. I really miss it. We would have moved there, but there were no banking HQ's for hubby to work in. :wah
I have many fond memories of the beautiful Marazion, Helston, Lands End and Tintagel.l :)
Mr V, are you the culinary Cornishman in question by chance????? ;)
JandM
8th November 2009, 10:14 PM
Gran was from deepest North Devon (never lost her accent despite leaving there upon her marriage at age 20). A lot of her family recipes have come down. Let me tell you, there's no 'yuck' in them. ;)
victoria24
9th November 2009, 07:07 AM
I wish arwen! never made a pasty in my life but have a friend coming over in feb who is the main man
frootbat
11th November 2009, 09:20 AM
There is a Cornishman selling handmade Cornish pasties in Cambridge at the farmers' market. It is $6 per pasty, $5.50 for a veggie one. He also sells at Hamilton market and to local New World. He has given up his job as an aeronautical engineer to do this and he says it is a struggle to make ends meet some months, but it is worth it. He has had to build a special catering kitchen in his garden, as you can not sell food made in a non-commercial kitchen.
We've had his pasties! Lovely they are too, lovely chunks of beef & spud. Hubby works with a chum of his (another ex Cornishman) who has them shipped up by the boxfull to Auckland and divvied up amongst eager, drooling expats like ourselves.
Ngeru
12th November 2009, 11:51 PM
Inspired by this thread, which left me aching for a lovely pastie I made my own:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/cornishpasty_89627.shtml
:nice1
Ngeru
12th November 2009, 11:56 PM
We've had his pasties! Lovely they are too, lovely chunks of beef & spud. Hubby works with a chum of his (another ex Cornishman) who has them shipped up by the boxfull to Auckland and divvied up amongst eager, drooling expats like ourselves.
Ooh, contraband pasties! Where? Is it a case of meet me in the domain wearing a bowler hat and a copy of last Sunday's Herald under your arm? Whisper the secret passcode? :laugh
colandros
22nd November 2009, 11:44 PM
Some friends of ours are doing just that.
They set up a traditional cornish pasty company here in cambridge,waikato
and are doing very well, they are hand made and come with traditional
and kiwi favourite fillings. they sell at all the local farmers markets and i believe
are about to start supplying some of the supermarket chains
TipTopAddicts
28th November 2009, 02:13 PM
"real meat pies" on White Lines East (Lower Hutt) already make them to a traditional Cornish recipe. His biggest problem is that they have to be seasonal, as outside the parsnip season the parsnip flavour is not good.
HTH
Rod
No, No, No, No, No.
Please Rod, you need to go into this place and tell the guy that his biggest problem is putting parsnip in them in the first place!!! A Traditional Cornish Pasty definately does not have parsnip in it!!!! Like Mr V said - Steak, onion, swede and potato with salt n pepper to taste and a couple little knobs of butter THATS IT!!!!!!
My poor mum and her mum and her mum will be turning in their cornish graves!!!
I can proudly say that since moving out at the begiining of the year, pasties have been regularly made in our house, especially to take racing with us - they certainly make people look and ask questions of what they are and where they come from - and with a big grin I say a real cornish pasty and I MADE THEM!!!:D
coopers
2nd December 2009, 02:43 PM
There is a chap from Cornwall who sells home made pasties at Riccarton Market...$5 i think...pretty good too...he is also looking into making scrumpy!!!
There is also a Cornish Club in Christchurch...saw a car with the cornish flag on, and got talking as we have friends down Kernow, and he knew them...amazing small world eh!
Kiwi Mac
3rd December 2009, 05:32 PM
I wish someone would import Ivor Dewdney oggies from Plymouth!
My favourite when I lived that way.
Related - the Pork Pies at the Twisted Hop in Chch are very good indeed!!
benandclare
3rd December 2009, 09:38 PM
There is a chap from Cornwall who sells home made pasties at Riccarton Market...$5 i think...pretty good too...he is also looking into making scrumpy!!!
There is also a Cornish Club in Christchurch...saw a car with the cornish flag on, and got talking as we have friends down Kernow, and he knew them...amazing small world eh!
Pretty sure he also does Farmers market at Oxford