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Diny
20th June 2005, 05:29 AM
Where to start? What follows will be the ramblings of a crazy woman, pushed to the brink of sanity by stuffed up property market rules and a dishonest 'buyer' out to please herself.

That's the first vent over and done with.

Just to brin you all up to date with our nightmare. You may be aware that we accepted an offer on this property yonks ago. Not sure of the exact date but I think it was around end of Feb/March time. The 'buyer' had first been to see the house at the end of November and instantly fell in love with the place. I distinctly remember asking her what her position was regarding her property. She informed us that she had sold and was now needing to find a place to live pretty pronto.

Bonus !!! (we thought) .... somebody who's fell for the house and is in a position of buy now. There followed a abit of back and forth banter regarding stupid offers and subsequent refusals, in the end, we dropped the price by 20k (albeit overpriced by a big chunk in the first place so the reduction wasn't as painful as it sounds). However, the price drop was on the proviso of a quick sale. Both parties happy ..... let the games commence.

Jeeze ........... how wrong were we??????

A very very long story which I'm not going to bore you all with. But - it turns out that our buyer had actually NOT sold her property. She had somebody who had expressed an interest in it but that was it. Then ..... several weeks down the line (with the agreed exchange date of 13th May getting closer) - she tells me that her husand (they've split up) will be buying her out of the house. Alarm bells start to ring ...... surely this would mean that his legal work would have to start from scratch. Our solicitor said that it would be tight but we'd make it if all parties pulled their fingers out.

2 weeks before we were due to exchange we hear that he has only just contacted his solicitor to start the proceedings. :wah :wah

So ... that's when we had to change our flight dates. our May 21st departure was changed to July 16 (we have the added complication of having to fit in with hubby working away for a month at a time with an oil company in Egypt.)

Naturally the May 13th came and went. No worries, we were told that all was on track, we would exchange on May 17th instead. Abit of a bummer 'cos we could have still made the 21st flights but realised that the extra weeks we'd been handed were actually a blessing in disguise.

May 17th .... no exchange. Last minute hitches by all accounts. We were told that it would now be 27th May.

Yep - you guessed it .... 27th came and went ..... no exchange. By this time I've had to cancel the shipping company twice.

Hubby came home on leave .... threw his teddy out of the pram ... closely followed by my teddy. He'd been away for over a month and by the time he returned there had been no progress on the sale. We phoned the buyer and told her that if she didn't hurry up and sort herself out by 10th June we would be reconsidering whether to sell her the house or not. Abit of a risk but we reckoned that: A. We needed to know one way or another .... is she buying it or isn't she, and B. If it made her jack it all in and withdraw her offer then it's a fair bet she wasn't going to buy it in the first place.

The threat did the trick, the following Monday morning there was a flurry of activity and her and her ex-hubby started the ball rolling with all thier legal separation stuff.

Exchange was/is being held up due to the fact that he is buying her out of the marital home. Until the title deeds are transferred between the 2 of them, her funds for buying this house won't be in place, therefore she can't sign because (on paper) she doesn't have the money.

Not only are they dealing with the purchase of this place, they had a business which they ran together which is being closed down, they have 2 small kids, they have cars, lorries and all kinds of stuff that needs to be legally sorted out.

Last week they all sat around a table and thrashed it all out. They reached an agreement and everybody was happy. This now meant that her funds are in place, she can exchange contracts with us .... the wheels can be set in motion and ....... with just 4 weeks to go until we leave ..... we have the green light.

But no .... that's too simple. At the last minute, his solicitor has decided that she's not happy with just a verbal figure regarding the value of her pension, she wants a full breakdown of it's value. So ...... just as pens were quavering over the dotted line, yet another hurdle was put up to delay the proceedings.

Our buyer - who is a real pair of wet knickers and has absolutely NO concept of what we're doing, has tral - la - la'd her way along and just about managed to pull her finger out and request a copy of this damn pension statement.

I spoke to her on Friday and told her that because she seems to be making no effort at all to hurry up we can only presume that she is not serious about buying the house. She broke down and cried that she WAS serious, she is desparate to move in and that she is doing her best to chase the elusive piece of paper which will act as the last piece in this god forsaken jigsaw.

It remains to be seen how long it will take for this final hurdle to be cleared.

In the meantime, my nerves are shot. Mark has had to go back to work not knowing what the hell is happening. We have the shipping co booked for next Monday .... do I cancel them yet again (we have no confidence in sending the shipment off without exchange of contracts).

We sold the car yonks ago and have been borrowing a friends clapped out T-reg Daewoo since then, however they need it back so I'm due to be car-less (not an abundance of public transport where we live - one bus to town on a Wednesday morning).

So ..... we are due to arrive in Auckland 4 weeks today. As to whether we'll be on that flight remains to be seen.

Our route to PR was very simple. Due to having a Kiwi spouse and 2 'half breed' kids, PR was little more than signing a few dotted lines. It stands to reason that somewhere along the line we would come in for our fair share of hassle. Obviously the house sale is the provider of that hassle. At the end of the day, it's no big deal. NZ will still be there, we've waited 15 years to make this move, what's another small delay at this stage in the process. There's folks out there alot worse off than us. The other day I saw the dad of one of my best mates. He (unintentionally) made me feel quite bad about griping on about another possible delay. You see my life long friend (his daughter) died 6 years ago of breast cancer. He said that NZ was always on her list of places to visit and that she'd be cheering me on and wishing me well. He said 'go and do it girl .... for yourself, for your kids and for Alison'.

That kind of put it all in pospective in a way :oops:

We've now realised that no matter how we rant, rave, curse, worry, fret, complain and moan about the situation, there's absolutely naff all that we can do about it. We don't have another interested buyer on the sidelines ........if we had things would be very different !!!!!!

So now we wait. All I can say is that we will be there real soon. Hopefully we'll make those July 16th flights, if not we'll be just after that. The fact that the UK is presently melting in temps akin to a hot Spanish summer makes the whole process slightly more enjoyable.

Everything happens for a reason and it's not for us to try and change the direction of fate - no matter how much we want to.

To all of you already out there ......... hope to see you soon. To everybody still here and going through any kind of immigration/property selling s**t .......... you're not alone. I've kept it bottled up for too long and have recently been getting a few PMs from my forum mates wishing us well in our imminent departure ...... it's done good to publicly vent my spleen.

I only hope that I can soon pass on some good news ..... watch this space and thanks for reading.

Diny

clarabell
20th June 2005, 05:56 AM
What a pain :no
Hope everything works out in time for you. Go pour yourself a large brandy...you deserve it! :roll: ;)

Diny
20th June 2005, 06:01 AM
Can I make that a gin instead? :cheers

Diny

Kim39
20th June 2005, 06:34 AM
Take time out Lass and have a mint Kit-Kat...... :laugh See what you meant when you told me you'd posted this thread.

Kim

jo b
20th June 2005, 07:32 AM
Blummin 'eck petal.

You don't do things by 'alves eh!!

Thing happen for a reason Diny and whilst they may not be clear yet they will be soon.

Chin up chuck and hope everything goes a bit smoother. Like you say no use worrying over things you have ahardly any control of, only worry about the things you can control.

At this rate we will be able to charter our own plane with everyone from the forum going about the same time :laugh

Take care see you on the 9th

Jo

Marie P
20th June 2005, 08:48 AM
OH Diny ...

BIG HUG ....

hope you hear something definate soon ......

Marie x

StevieD
20th June 2005, 12:18 PM
Oh dear, I just pm'd you and got to reading the forum when I saw your post :( Things will turn out Diny, and remember we are all betting on you being there for Jo B's lil' country hoe downs!!! :laugh (Sorry Jo!)
We are thinking of you and our thoughts are with you all. Confident that you will be o.k. soon.

Steve and gang

sarahw
20th June 2005, 10:39 PM
Diny good luck - got everything crossed for you. Feel free to PM if you need to vent!

Am sat here at the moment waiting to hear some news from my estate agent in the UK - just feel comfortable that the buying process in NZ is a lot easier!!! :nice1

Mildred
20th June 2005, 10:52 PM
Diny,

Sorry!
:(

Carol
20th June 2005, 10:57 PM
Can I make that a gin instead? :cheers

Diny


Make it two!!!!


LARGE ones!
I'm a nervous wreck after reading that!!!

And I'm not even in the queue!!!
:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh


Not long now Diny....I feel it in my bones.... ;)

veronica
21st June 2005, 12:00 AM
while I really feel for you Diny and Mark I have to say that I also feel for your buyer. it can't be much fun coping with a divorce, a house move and a couple of small kids too. The pressure of divorce or house move is stressfull enough but both together must be a killer.

While estate agents are a pain their job is to facilitate this type of situation and by deciding to cut them out you pick up that extra stress yourself so what you save in money you pay in stress and perhaps time. In a straight forward situation it does seem that its money for old rope but when the going gets tough they start to earn their money.

In a few weeks it will all be water under the bridge and you will be over here so just have a couple of drinks, find something you want to watch on the telly or a good book and let it all slide for the evening.

Enjoy your drinks, regards Veronica

Jon
21st June 2005, 01:19 AM
Keep going, I'm sure things will get a shift on!!!!
Cheers
Jon

wayne
21st June 2005, 01:22 AM
Diny OK you have had problems but please dont class a T reg Daewoo as clapped out :oops: we have never owned a car that new!!!! :( we have a G reg Honda civic!!!!(oh yeah and a two year old Harley) :mrgreen:
Hope your luck changes we are still all on for the August move hopefully

Paul
21st June 2005, 01:32 AM
.................. There's folks out there alot worse off than us. The other day I saw the dad of one of my best mates. He (unintentionally) made me feel quite bad about griping on about another possible delay. You see my life long friend (his daughter) died 6 years ago of breast cancer. He said that NZ was always on her list of places to visit and that she'd be cheering me on and wishing me well. He said 'go and do it girl .... for yourself, for your kids and for Alison'.

That kind of put it all in pospective in a way :oops: .........


Its good to take a step back and reflect on these things sometimes as we all get caught up in the stresses of every day life and kind of miss what is really important. I guess the woman buying your house isn't in a great way with a couple of small kids and a divorce, so there for the grace etc etc

Obviously doesn't make it any less annoying for you though Diny and really hope things get moving and you realise your dream :nice1

All the best

Diny
21st June 2005, 01:48 AM
Thanks for the kind words folks. I've definately entered 'let it slide' mode. No point wasting time and energy changing what can't be changed.

I think the thing that has really REALLY got our backs up is the fact that our buyer lied to us from day one. She assured us she had sold - cash in bank - ready to move. On reflection we should never have taken it off the market ...... but you live and learn.

Hopefully very soon it will all be history, until then it's a case of grin and bear it.

Now then ...... where's that gin ?????

Diny

Paul
21st June 2005, 01:52 AM
Hopefully very soon it will all be history, until then it's a case of grin and bear it.

Now then ...... where's that gin ?????

Diny

That'll be GIN and bear it then..............

sorry!

Bubbles
21st June 2005, 03:10 AM
Diny,

Just read about your house sale troubles and the silly c*w you're dealing with.
You and Mark have my symathathy's petal, and I'm sure that you will make those dates you've booked.

A few words of wisdom..........................

Don't let the bast**ds grind you down

oh, and keep drinking the GIN :mrgreen: it's amazing what that stuff can do :nice1

It's going to be a while until we tread the shakey path of selling the home and it has to be said I'm not looking forward to it.

All the best Diny and keep that british pecker up.

John

kiwidollie
21st June 2005, 04:34 AM
That's rotten for you all. :(

I've not been around the forum much of late - been a bit down in the dumps and I'm finding the whole house selling, living in limbo thing just tooooooo stressful along with other problems.

I'm really sorry you're having to cope with this sort of carp Diny - having met you and your family I can say you're too nice a person to deserve this.

The way I see it is that pretty soon all this will just be a bad memory and you will be off living your lovely new life in New Zealand.

I wish you all the very best and will keep checking in to see how things are progressing for you.

Positive vibes coming your way.....


Have they arrived yet? :nice1

Aug & Feb
21st June 2005, 07:11 AM
Hi Diny,

sorry to hear about this hiccup in the sale of your house. I can see that both you and the buyer are having it tough. Hope she gets her pension statement soon, her money sorted out, your sales documents signed and by July, you are off to NZ.

Just a thought....do you have a contingency plan ? Is it legal to put the house back on the market while waiting for this buyer to sort herself out ? You may find another potential buyer...just in case this lady could not sort out her problems....

Good luck to you and your hubby !!

Diny
21st June 2005, 07:55 AM
Just a thought....do you have a contingency plan ? Is it legal to put the house back on the market while waiting for this buyer to sort herself out ? You may find another potential buyer...just in case this lady could not sort out her problems....



Oh yes !!!!! As for a contingency plan .... we're already operating on 'plan B'. The for sale sign has been back up for about a month now and we've had a couple more viewers ..... no offers though.

We've covered all our bases ...... it's now just a waiting game.

Diny

KD17
21st June 2005, 09:37 AM
Hi Diny

Just read your post, after all the previous happenings it did seem like things were on track - it's such a bummer :no :no

I suppose renting your house out is out of the question?

Shame I can't send Keith round to do some therapy on you :laugh :laugh - holistic therapy that is :laugh He could probably do well from keeping forum members relaxed, heaven knows I could never afford him for all the treatments I get :mrgreen:

Don't know about the G&T's, they're supposed to be depressing; maybe you should try something exotic; like Sex on The Beach :laugh

I hope this is your last stumbling block and that it passes over smoothly.

Cheers ! :cheers

Keith & Debby

Hannah-NL
21st June 2005, 12:33 PM
Can only say, Cheers!
Hoping this will cheer you up, cause it has your name written all over it ;)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y166/Hannah-NL/GinDiny.jpg

Hannah-NL
25th June 2005, 06:57 AM
I hardly dare to ask Diny, any news yet? :exit

Diny
25th June 2005, 07:38 AM
'Fraid not :no

Still being told that all 'paperwork' is not in place.

Once everything has been received and dealt with we'll have a 'domino' effect. In other words everything down the line will fall into place and get the 'thumbs up' ..... sadly the signing of the contracts for this house is at the end of that line.

I know that when couples divorce, split houses and buy new ons there's a mountain of paperwork to be dealt with. I know that we need to have abit more patience ...... but I can't help feeling REALLY miffed that the stupid woman lied to us in the first place and that both her and her ex-hubby are dragging their feet (just to pee each other off) and in the process we're getting majorly pee'd off. I smell a rat - but with no other offers on the table I just gotta go on smelling it.

All will fall into place eventually. If we don't settle in time for our July 16th departure then we just leave at a later date. At the end of the day it's our own impatience that's eating away at us ....... nobody else champing at our heels.

I still keep telling myself there's millions of people alot worse off than us. It's difficult though not to wallow in self pitty ...... I should bring myself into line with a reality check every now and then.

Will keep you posted.

Diny

Suzy Rimbo
25th June 2005, 10:52 AM
Oh Diny,

You must be at your wit's end, I so feel for you, the stress must be mad.

I so hope things start to move real soon for you all, fingers and toes crossed for you, keep smiling chuck.

Thinking of you

Love

Suzy

X

Kim39
25th June 2005, 10:59 PM
Kiwidollie wrote......I'm really sorry you're having to cope with this sort of carp Diny

Hey, didn't know there was a fish named after you lass :laugh

Kim

Carol
25th June 2005, 11:05 PM
Kiwidollie wrote......I'm really sorry you're having to cope with this sort of carp Diny

Hey, didn't know there was a fish named after you lass :laugh

Kim

Halibet of chocolate with that gin luv and your Orange Roughy will be glowing!

Diny
25th June 2005, 11:39 PM
That's all well and good but I think I'm getting to the end of the rocky road.

Diny

Carol
25th June 2005, 11:42 PM
Aw......
Wouldnt be as bad if you could pavlova to NZ without having to complete I suppose....

You'll just have to cray fish it will all work out soon.
:nice1

Diny
25th June 2005, 11:48 PM
Cod only knows when we'll get there ...... this plaice is driving me crazy, if something doesn't happen soon people are going to end up getting battered.

:roll: This is getting daft.

Carol
25th June 2005, 11:49 PM
:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh


I'm Schnappered....off to bed.
:nice1 :nice1 :nice1

Hannah-NL
26th June 2005, 11:55 PM
Well, I can only hope Diny that you will get on that flight as a birthday pressie for me, cause july 16 is my birthday, my wish for you is to be on that plane...! :yes

Diny
27th June 2005, 12:52 AM
Hannah .... I'll try my darn best I promise. It was my birthday last Tuesday (21st) and I was hoping for exchange that day as a pressie but i reckon I can't have been a very good girl this last year 'cos I didn't get what I wished for :no

Mark is convinced we'll be on the flight, I'm convinced we won't be. Wonder which one will win the bet (I hope he does).

I've contacted the airline and confirmed that the tickets can be changed a 2nd time if they need to be. They can !!! In fact they can be changed as many times as is necessary so that's good news. They can also be changed right up until just a couple of hours before departure - which is even better.

The waiting game continues.

Diny

Timbo
27th June 2005, 01:31 AM
That is worth knowing about Diny. Which airline are you booked with?
I have my fingers crossed for you by the way.

Diny
27th June 2005, 03:10 AM
Hi Timbo.

We're booked with Singapore Airlines (just brilliant they are). We booked directly with them via the website. When I spoke to the girl today on the phone her first question was "did you book through an agent or directly with us"?

Not too sure (cos I didn't need to ask) but I think if you book through an agent you may have to do any alterations with them - and you can bet your life you'll get charged an admin fee for the pleasure too.

Diny

Timbo
27th June 2005, 03:26 AM
:nice1 Thanks Diny.

Bubbles
27th June 2005, 05:08 AM
A nice little snippet of info there.

Seems it pays to book direct.

Thankyou :nice1

Dinnaefash
27th June 2005, 09:11 AM
That certainly is good info to have, just in case :?

Was it an ordinary flight, nothing special? One way, or return?

Diny
27th June 2005, 09:23 AM
We've booked just bog standard one way flights. Manchester to Auckland via Singapore.

Remember when booking on-line to check the terms & conditions. By all accounts there are some flights available on-line which can't be changed (but I think these are few and far between).

Flights booked directly via the website are also about 30 quid cheaper each - obviously no middle man to pay.

Diny

nessie
27th June 2005, 06:49 PM
Diny

If you book online, do you have to ring them to request extra baggage allowance?

I fully sympathise over your house trauma - what a nightmare. Our house has now beenon the market 14 weeks and no sale yet :uhoh !

Diny
27th June 2005, 07:59 PM
Hi Nessie

There's nowhere (that I can see) on the website where you can request extra luggage allowance.

If you look at the bottom of the each page on the site you will see 'contact us' details where you can find your nearest Sing Air office.

So far we're having no luck at all in getting extra luggage allowance, we have been turned down flat, which I find confusing as I know for a fact that some people who have flow with Sing Air have been given extra. However I don't think it's going to turn out to be too much of an issue with us 'cos looking at the luggage we have to take on the flight we won't be needing any extra.

I guess it could just be a case of the luck of the draw ...... or maybe what mood the person on the end of the phone is in when you call them. Good luck.

Diny

eric_amanda
28th June 2005, 10:58 AM
Hi guys

When we flew last August, we were told when we got to the airport that it was NZ end (somebody official) that had decided extra luggage allowances were no longer available. This was despite my numerous telephone calls to various people at Singapore Airlines beforehand!!

We had arrived at the airport with 219kg between 5 of us plus pushchair etc etc.

At their 'discretion' they allowed us on with all of our luggage! But only cos they wanted rid of us I think!!!!

Amanda

lisa
28th June 2005, 11:32 AM
Hi

we flew to CHC via Singapore and just phoned up and were given an extra 10kg allowance each.
Would also reccomend the transit hotel at Changi we had a good few hours there so booked 2 rooms ( a girly one and a lads one!!) and it was sooo nice to have a shower and a stretch out on the bed before setting off again it also worked out that we had 2 evening flights so sleeping was easier too (not that I usually have much trouble personally!!!)

Lisa :P

jan
29th June 2005, 11:27 AM
I rang just before our 18th May flight and was told `No extra, because we were going out on a W. to R visa!`.

I rang again and got someone different who said ` No problem 10k extra each and just show your visa to the desk!`

Very nice check in staff at Manchester who said we were allowed 7k each on hand luggage too and if not used as hand can be transferred onto baggage total allowance.

Singapore airlines were the best. :nice1

veronica
29th June 2005, 09:32 PM
from the NZ end I flew to england with almost 30 kg but I was going to a trade show and I did go into the airport the day before and check it out with them. It seems the policy is to not charge excess baggage if its under 30 kg. considering the allowance is 20 kg I don't think they would worry to much up to 25kg each, might look a bit closer at 28kg.....but I think its pushing it if a family of 5 turned up with over 150kg. you were lucky there.

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