[Omer]

Since I am not sure that I want to live in NZ, I am thinking about coming to check what is going on and maybe find a job and get tempo. working permit.
If I find an employer that wants to hire me, can he ask for a permit for me while I am in NZ or do I have to leave to country?
How long does it take to issue a tempo. working permit?
There are places like Queenstown with a labour shortage. Do you think it is possible for me to find a job there?

[Alex]

I'd say if you're not sure, then it's a very good idea to go and see NZ, and get a temporary job. I was told at the London expo by the chap on the Westpac stand (banking), that if they decided to employ you, they could get a visa issued within 2 days. Obviously this varies from employer to employer but the point is that if you are gainfully employed, then they will probably want to keep you in the country. Don't think you have to leave the country whilst the permit is being agreed.

I've no idea about Queenstown...what job are you going to do?

[veronica]

Don't know where you are from but a lot of countries offer a working holiday visa to people 30 and under. If you are under that age itmight be worth checking to see if you are eligible.

[jbharvey]

Omer, the short answer is yes. You should go and look for a job without a PR as long as you have money to sustain yourself while you're searching. This is my plan exactly and you can read about it at:

http://www.emigratenz.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4325

[Omer]

my profession is not IT or HI-TEC related.
I have a B.A. degree in Psychology and Communication and experience as a journalist and as an editor, but in Hebrew, so that might pose a problem for future employers.
In my initial post I meant that I will look for jobs in restuarants, hotels and similar places that are looking for workers that don't have any qualification.
Once I will have a job, I think I will be granted PR faster.
The question is does the NZ job market really seeks for labours (in various levels of education)?
How hard will it be possible finding jobs just by going "Door to Door"?

[Moorf]

Omar,

How old are you? If you are under 30 you could come on a Working Holiday visa and use that year to check out NZ - under that visa you'd have no problems getting the sort of work you mention (hospitality / retail / restaurants) etc. ( Bear in mind that Queenstown is very expensive place to live and rent and salaries in that sector aren't the best.)

Door to door, along with adverts in newspapers and in shops etc is a great way to find that type of work.... put yourself out there and you're sure to score something :nice1

Moorf

[Omer]

NZ doesn't have this agreement with Israel, so the fact that I am 24 won't mean a thing.
Anyway, I will start going through the wanted ads to get general knowledge of NZ job market and the area of communication in particular.

[Moorf]

NZ doesn't have this agreement with Israel, so the fact that I am 24 won't mean a thing.


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Got me interested, found this: http://www.beehive.govt.nz/ViewDocument.aspx?DocumentID=23486

Have you seen this site? http://users.iconz.co.nz/israel/

[Omer]

I have no idea what the Israeli secret service looked for in NZ...

I will focus my question. Is it parctical to fly all the way to NZ to look for any kind of job and hope that someone will apply for working visa for me?

[Moorf]

Can you afford to take the risk financially i.e. flights, accommodation, money to tide you over whilst you job hunt? If so, then why not just "go for it". If taking the risk would be detrimental to your finances/future then I would definitely do more research before making such a leap of faith, perhaps emailing some hotels/hostels/backpackers, restaurants or tourist attractions and asking if they have seasonal positions open and whether they would consider you, find out what experience you may need, etc etc.

[irishgirl]

Moorf, do you ever sleep??!?!?! ;)

I would second Moorf's comments though. Do some research on the job scene, and if you can afford to go over and support yourself for a month or two, then go for it!

Not sure when the grape-picking season starts (might be February/March/April time), but I imagine there would be a lot of casual labour going. We met quite a few english couples who were financing their stay in NZ doing just this.

Good luck!


Dee

[Moorf]

:no I have always been a night-owl.

Shame I can't get up in the mornings...

Things like grape picking would be good to get cash whilst travelling around, what other crops are there where they employ seasonal help?

Sometimes I think you can work in return for your accommodation at backpackers/hostels?

Ultimately, what is your profession/trade as you might consider finding temp work in towns/cities so you can attend interviews and jobhunt so you can get a work visa.

[Alex]

Things like grape picking would be good to get cash whilst travelling around, what other crops are there where they employ seasonal help?
I read that sheep-shearing was an in-demand seasonal industry. Looked like damn hard work though - they got paid per sheep, and there was a badge of honour to who sheared the most!

[Timbo]

Omer. Just a thought here. Have you considered going out to NZ and doing a bit of work for your bed and board? The following link is an organisation which allows you to do just that. It would be A; a good way to keep down costs B; a good way to sample proper New Zealand life, without making any big commitment.

http://www.fhinz.co.nz/

[Omer]

I don't want to count on my experience as a journalist to get me a job because most vacancies require to be a permanent resident in NZ and I don't think that any newspaper would prefer an Israeli journalist without a work permit over a local journalist.
Still, I don't think I won't tryit if I get there, but it is slim...
Grapes picking won't suit me because I am looking for a permanent job that my employer would apply for a working permit for me.
Working at the Hospitality & Tourism industry will suit me since I have an experince in that area too and it is less seasonal than agricalutre, but I still need to know how common it is in NZ to hire people in my status and apply for a working permit for them?
When I thought about doing the same thing in Canada I saw that the procedure to get a working permit for your worker is so long and hard, that the employer would do everything he can in order to hire a local personnal.
Since I am not familiar with that process in NZ I don't want to take a chance and find out that the situation in NZ is the same as in Canada.