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Richard_from_Long Beach
28th October 2005, 07:43 AM
Hello all,

My first post to the board. The process is moving quickly for me. EOI submitted 9/23, selected 9/28, and ITA sent 10/19. Here's my story:

I went to live in Christchurch in September '04 on a six-month holiday visa from the US. I really liked living there and travelling the South Island by InterCity bus. Of course I thought about moving there permanently, but didn't think PR was a possibility for me. N.Z. stayed on my mind though, and then I realized I could claim 105 points for the skilled migrant category, based largely on having a law degree and having worked for over 10 years--although not as a lawyer for most of that time. I do not have a job offer or qualification as a NZ lawyer yet. From what I understand reading some of the other lawyer-emigrant posts, NZIS is likely to grant me a work permit first, then PR once I get my NZ law qualification. [Anyone confirm that?]

Christchurch has everything I want in a place to live: although it's the biggest city on the South Island, with plenty of things to do and places to shop, it's not that big or congested. I lived in the central city and had no car, and that is one of the big factors drawing me back--the opportunity to live without the hassle of traffic, car repairs, and gasoline prices. Christchurch is very walkable (and an excellent bus system), has great parks and gardens, and seems to have fewer problems associated with urban life (crime, etc.). I know those problems exist there to some degree (something really needs to be done about the hoons and their modified exhausts), and I believe that people are basically the same everywhere, but it just seems that lower population means fewer problems. Also, I really appreciated the lack of extreme wealth and poverty, at least compared to the U.S. - no Beverly Hills, no Compton.

The real wealth of NZ--shared by everyone--is of course the natural environment. Christchurch is pretty well situated for trips to the rest of the S.I., and I also really enjoyed the Port Hills, the ocean, and Banks Peninsula right within reach. The weather is not hot enough for my liking (coming from the desert), but on the whole it was good, with many fine days. The weather was constantly changing also--week-to-week, day-to-day, hour-to-hour. (Caveat: I was not there in the winter for the CHCH smog.)

I'm still not 100% sure I'm going to make the move--it seems like such a permanent, serious decision--but I have lived all over the US and haven't come across a city as nice as Christchurch.

veronica
28th October 2005, 08:58 AM
its worth doing it and coming over. It doesn't have to be a irreversible step. just come over and live the life for a few years and make a decision then.

selchie
29th October 2005, 01:37 PM
Let's see, Long Beach vs. Christchurch. Hmmm. I'd take Chch anyday, but then I'm at the other end of California from you, and have an aversion to the LA area. Keep in mind that LA has far more people than the entire country of NZ. Go for it :nice1 !

Smiler
29th October 2005, 01:59 PM
Hi Richard
Welcome to the forum. :clap

I agree with Veronica. You liked it 1st time, come back and see if you like it enough to want to stay longer. It doesn't have to be forever, but you never know. :D

There are some very knowledgable people from in and around Christchurch on here too, if you have any questions.

Deborah

Diny
29th October 2005, 02:36 PM
Richard - welcome to the forum.

Quite a coincidence really, I've been sitting at the PC for the last hour or so booking some accommodation in Christchurch for early Jan.

I was doing it under a slight amount of duress, my parents are coming to stay with us for a couple of months and they want to stay in ChCh while we're down in the SI. Can't say I'm that excited about the prospect, last time I visited (about 15 years ago) it struck me as little more than 'just another city' - a place I was happy to view through my rear view mirror. However, after reading your account of your time spent there I'm now willing to ignore my previous experiences.

Hope everything turns out Ok for you - and I agree with above comments - if you make the move over here and decide it's not for you - then you can always move back.

Good luck.

Diny

Richard_from_Long Beach
29th October 2005, 05:12 PM
Diny,

I hope your parents' visit goes well. I can understand why ChCh leaves little impression if you're from, or been around, other places in NZ. Returning there from my travels around the S.I., I didn't think it was that spectacular. But as a place to settle and live, I thought it had everything to offer. It's the reverse of the old phrase "nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there."

GeorgeM
29th October 2005, 05:35 PM
I didn't think it was that spectacular. But as a place to settle and live, I thought it had everything to offer. It's the reverse of the old phrase "nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there."
I think that this sums up Christchurch very well - it is certainly the most 'liveable' town/city that I've ever resided in.

You can point to things that are better in this town or that town, but it's rarely the same town that you're comparing it to unfavorably. Overall Chch might not be the very best at anything, but it's near the top for most things which makes it the compromiser's ideal choice.

Certainly Chch people are constantly shown by surveys to be the most content with their lot of any of the larger NZ towns, and for this they get a lot of contempt from the rest of the country who interpret it as smugness which it isn't really.

However, when one of my software suppliers (from Wellington) said that he always liked coming down to Chch I hit him with the 'place to live, not to visit' line and he disagreed strongly. Despite being a local to Welly and working on the Terrace he still enjoys Chch as a town to wander about and to eat and drink in. And he knows a great deal about eating and drinking...:D

veronica
29th October 2005, 07:09 PM
A lot of the backpackers that come here think that Chch is a good town for night life too. Ok its not a Queenstown but there is quite a variety of restaurants and pubs/clubs/bars. Quite a few seem to be able to find enough to do that they come in as we get up about 7 or 8 am.
But it is very 'livable' and everything is in easy reach, from the beach to the mountains. We are enjoying it here.

Diny
29th October 2005, 07:27 PM
OK - so now I'm looking forward to staying in ChCh. Nearer the time I shall be asking for names of good restaurants - especially seafood and Italian.

Diny

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