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Moorf
17th November 2005, 09:12 PM
Avalon wrote (in another thread)

the search for Fly Screens today - everyone we talked was in the "cant" category



As I was babysitting a sick doggy today (she's perked up now) I was searching around for Fly/Bug screens too. I was intrigued as to what was out there as we have been told our new house has been "spider proofed" :confused: - I did a search on the ol' faithful Google but not a lot comes up for spider proofing in NZ!! How on EARTH does one spider proof a house??!!!!! Anti-web paint?!! :laugh It's not spiders I'm worried about - it's flying bugs!

Avalon - what were their reasons for "can't" do bug screens for you??

And, still on the topic of bugs - what do people use when outside in the evening to stop being bombarded with zillions of bugs and moths??!!

Oh, and one more bug story. In the library yesterday I helped a guy photocopy a load of medical bills for an insurance claim. He'd been bitten by a beetle which has arrived in NZ from Oz, and he was paralysed down the bitten side for a few days and his jaw clenched shut and he had to be fed by a tube!! Anyone heard any news stories about these critters - I hadn't!!

Yours itchingly,

Moorf

Smiler
17th November 2005, 09:32 PM
Oh eyuk!!! That's obviously not an urban myth then ( or a moth :laugh )


I want fly screens fitted everywhere but I'm thinking now that won't stop the spiders :uhoh Helen did you ask the owners what they meant by 'spider proof'

Whatever I've used outside in the Uk has never stopped any bugs so I'm hoping someone has a miracle cure here. Please?

I heard secada's in the tree outside today, more yuk!

My hair is itching now :exit

Deborah

Thanks Voice. 'cicadas' I seemed to have named them after an 80's rock star

Voice
17th November 2005, 09:35 PM
We have cicadas all round the garden, but they don't really bother me. It's the Gisborne cockroach I can't stand! :no

GeorgeM
17th November 2005, 10:03 PM
By spider proofing they probably mean that they've sprayed the house with some vile and long acting poison.

We have had this done a couple of times and although I don't know what the effect has been on us it has certainly been devistating for the insects and spiders. Well after a year the flies still drop like, well, flies if they venture into our house. A good thing too as in the summer we get zillions of them - one Sunday last summer I was doing a big clean up in the house and hoovered the window ledges where there were a good number of dead flies. An hour and a half later there were over 60 large fly corpses on these same ledges. Scary! Fortunately it doesn't happen that prolifically that often.

Spraying is frequently done for insects (most of our neighbours have it done) and less often with a bit of added woomph for spiders. That your house has been done possibily suggests that they had or thought they had white tails and got a bit uneasy.

GeorgeM
17th November 2005, 10:05 PM
We have cicadas all round the garden, but they don't really bother me. It's the Gisborne cockroach I can't stand! :no
I like the sound of the cicadas on a hot summer's day - reminds me that I'm in a warmer place now!

But with the colder temperatures down here in winter we don't suffer with cockroaches (leans over and touches the window frame.... :laugh )

Avalon
17th November 2005, 11:13 PM
Moorf,

Well, with screens it seems to come down to how our doors are hung. Persoanlly I cant see why it matters, but it does. From what one guy was saying, because our doors open Outwards and not inwards - we CANNOT have flyscreens. :confused: Now the thing is - this particular gentlman spent most of the time telling us what windows we had, and what doors we had, and even that the only place we would have got those doors is from Upper Hutt. Not once did he actually ask us for any pertinant info, so he really has no idea what we have.

In the second shop, whose details I got from a company called Phantom (0800 169 000), I didnt get much more help. Phanton do retractable flyscreens (kind of like a vertical rollerblind/door), and can cope with doors and windows no matter how they open. Unfortunately - the lady in the shop did not seem interested in selling us anything. The first thing she did was demand to know if we wanted it for christmas, then proceeded to tell us (kinda helpfully) that an average window cost about $70 and a door $200, but they do have a different type (phantom) but its really really expensive. How Expensive? Really REALLY expensive.

I gave up at that point (Id also had a nightmare in a pharmacy trying to get some Sudafed for this killer cold that has had ime in bed for the past 2 days - I just was not in the mood today!)

If you are still with me (Ive lost the will to live today) Citronella really is the best thing to try and keep bugs at bay. I personally use true Essential Oils for this and not ready made citronella Lamp oil. If you have oils - mixing Citronella with lavender and / or peppermint oils is best as it works better than citronella alone. Ive made up a mix of these in a small pump bottle (8 drops of Cit, 4 each of Pep and Lav in about 30ml of water) which you shake and then spray on skin as an alternative to insect repellant. So far it seem to stop me getting eaten alive. We are having some sucess at keeping flys out of the house - but not so much im afraid. However we have only been using it in a bowl of hot water in the kitchen - we proably need t fill the sinks in the house and add oils to that to get the stuff throughout the house.

I really want an good alternative to the chemical spray. It should be pyrethrum, but I understand its a chemical form rather than a natural form, and im a little loathe to use it.

Our house does seem to have been sprayed - at least for flys - given the speed at which they drop dead ( and the gazillions of dead flys in the attic that im still in the process of hoovering up ). BUT this doesnt stop them coming in and flying around making a helluva racket before they die. :mad:

Hope that helps - the flys really are driving me mad!

Simon & Emily
18th November 2005, 03:54 AM
I'm glad to hear that the fly sprays work, and can't offer any advice, but was wondering if anyone knows how / why the house spraying works? If the chemical can hang around long enough to kill flies that for that long, how come it doesn't affect the human inhabitants?

Thanks,

Emily

jan
18th November 2005, 06:21 AM
Not sure of the reasoning behind the bug spray. My friend is paying $120 today to have her house done. She has to leave the house for a couple of hours or so :confused: . I will ask her to find out why for me.

I was advised to use citronella, at the weekend too. The burning candles when your sat outside apparently ward all the midges away!

I was also advised to take vitamin B1. Again this will ward off any midges that wish to bite. The herbalist suggested that it was readily available.

I bought one of those timer sprays from the warehouse at the weekend. It was $39 for the unit and a spray can. You can time it to spray out every 25 mins to 45 mins if you like.

Why do the flys seem to sit on the blinds or walls for an age?

Oh !!! and aren't the ants fast little beggers????? I was advised to use Janola to rid any ants. It absolutely works too. I have diluted some into a spray bottle, and thats all I use on my surfaces now. I had a major outbreak about 3 weeks ago. Got up one morning to zillions of them all over my daughters remains of her late night feast of strawberries. There was a line of them and an army all over the stalks. I Janola'd the surfaces. NO MORE ants :clap

veronica
18th November 2005, 08:08 AM
I thought it was funny that the houses here weren't screened too. NZ has such close links with Australia and every house we ever lived in there was screened. What's happened to stop the technology jumping the water!!

What we are using at the Backpackers is the good old fashioned sticky fly papers, they seem to be working.

Moorf
18th November 2005, 08:41 AM
I used fly-paper last year but there were soooo many flies that it just looked gross after a couple of days and replacing it that often was expensive!! I also tried home-made fly traps and I'm sure many members will remember my "indoor fly bomb" episode :o

Here's what the owners for our new house had to say about the spider-proofing:


OK - so we paid some geezer to come out with his chemicals and spray the house with some (probably completely unPC stuff) which is apparently guaranteed for 2 years. As a registered arachniphobe, I must say that IT WORKS!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!! You can;t imagine some of the horrors we witnessed when we first moved here, and they have now been banished for all time.


I want that "geezers" telephone number :uhoh

Moorf (thankfully NOT an arachniphobe!)

eric_amanda
18th November 2005, 02:37 PM
I got a quote the other day for ridding our place of flys, spiders, ants etc. For a 350sqm house the cost was $250. However, I am reluctant to go with it as I'm unsure of the effect on 'us and the children'....can anyone enlighten us:confused:

selchie
18th November 2005, 02:38 PM
If you do spray, keep in mind that you're killing more than the undesirable insects. And pesticides (especially) inside the house can also affect you adversely. If you have children, please keep that in mind even more.

I've heard about repelling flies by hanging baggies full of water near doorways. One entomologist says it works because refracting light confuses the flies' with their compound eyes. I think a more attractive alternative would be hanging crystals - pretty rainbows, too.

My youngest cat helps keep down the fly population in the house - she loves those crunchy snacks! And I let a few spiders camp out in windows.

As for bug-proofing your house, I'd recommend putting door sweeps on the bottom of doors or on the threshhold. This helps keep the crawlers out. (Except for the centipede I found a month ago)

jubjub
18th November 2005, 02:53 PM
I'm with George on the Cicadas, they remind me of holidays.... and still make me smile when they start up in the early evening.

As for ants, we had loads, until I sprayed the rockery area with ant killer, not so many of them now :) , and they are tiny.

Flies are beginning to annoy me, the dog just watches them does not do anything about them though! Burnt a citonella candle by the open door all day yesterday and that seemed to keep the numbers down a bit.

Voice
18th November 2005, 05:41 PM
Aww yeah, I'm a fan of the cicadas too, they start early morning here and go on all day, they remind me of holidays :)

We got sprayed for cockroaches and it seems to have done the job, but our garden is native bush so you have to expect a few bugs I think (no spiders though!) :clap

will
18th November 2005, 11:29 PM
You need Delbert McClintock aka The Bug Guy...

http://2plus2plus.com/images/bugguy.jpg

:D

dave k
19th November 2005, 07:05 AM
I don't see how you could really insect-proof a house that has lots of windows & doors open. And that's pretty much any house in NZ in the summer.

I just use the rolled up newspaper technique ( or a can of raid if there's a swarm) for the really annoying flies.

DB
19th November 2005, 09:00 AM
... with screens it seems to come down to how our doors are hung. Persoanlly I cant see why it matters, but it does. From what one guy was saying, because our doors open Outwards and not inwards - we CANNOT have flyscreens.

I'm glad no-one told our fly-screen installers that. Our doors open outwards, and we have fly-screens that slide across the inner wooden frame, bit like sliding wardrobe doors. Those and the magnetic window screens work a treat.

jo b
19th November 2005, 11:20 PM
Does anyone use insectocutors. I searched for them a while ago in trademe.nz, they seemed quite cheap. I cannot stand flys especially in the kitchen so unhygienic.....eerruuggghhh.

I know that bruning some sort of stick out side keep them at bay at night time.

Jo

DB
19th November 2005, 11:32 PM
Does anyone use insectocutors.

Got one of them before the flyscreens, big thing, a Starkeys Warrior (http://www.southernhospitality.co.nz/product.pasp?categoryid=5&productid=2887). I also have an el cheapo Warehouse toy.

Heres the news - neither of them kills flys. Wasps, moths, just about anything else that is both an insect and has wings, yes, but flys - no.

http://www.southernhospitality.co.nz/images/Store159/%7B65288F96%2D9952%2D47E5%2DA683%2D3A125D4E%303AE% 7D.jpeg

The only thing that actually kills flys usefully in my experieince is Robocan, as long as you use the black cans, not the more polite green ones :)

jan
20th November 2005, 09:26 AM
I asked my friend what it was that made the spray work for so long? Apparently when the guy sprays your house he does the skirting board areas , doors and windows. There is a mist when he has finished. It is apparently safe for human consumption, so if you were to run your finger over the window bottoms, you can lick your finger, and no harm done :confused: . The idea is that when the fly, spider or whatever walks over the sprayed area, it will clean its self later only to rub all the poison everywhere and then die.

Mmmmmm:confused: .

Moorf
20th November 2005, 06:47 PM
Yep Jan, the chemicals (long name, begins with P!) stay on the surfaces and flies, spiders etc crawl across it, pick it up on their bods, and then crawl away to die. Sounds good to me... :D - checked with a number of suppliers over the weekend and all said perfectly safe for pets and humans. I guess if it wasn't they'd have a finite number of customers.... not a lot of repeat business :laugh

Avalon
20th November 2005, 07:27 PM
Problem is you then still haev to spend hours hoovering up dead flies. (And is it just me - or do they always make a yukky crunch sound as they get sucked up?)

My dad just bought at "tennis racket thingy" which basically electrocutes them. You swat the fly and press a button and "zap" - dead fly! Still have a body to hoover though.

Oh - and we bought a really nice mobile with a faceted crystal in it - no change thoug - flys still coming in. But it is really pretty - so im happy anyway.

Really it comes down to I want fly screens - so im going to have to look at the sliding option. In case that was in the mail that went "pooof" - I have a number for 2 companies which im going to contact:

Phantom: 0800 169 000
Magicseal : 0800 10 44 66

ukiwibird
20th November 2005, 09:13 PM
We bought Robocan 2 this week, it is brilliant, no more annoying flies around. It is safe around children & pets. It sprays out a fine mist of 100% natural pyrethrins every 7 minutes. I've just looked at the box it came in and it is dangerous for aquatic organisms, insects, spiders, fleas, ants, wasps & coachroaches. We bought it from Hammer Hardware but I've also seen it a Mitre 10. Regards Trudy

Moorf
20th November 2005, 09:54 PM
What "area" does one Robocan cover?

Moorf
4th January 2006, 11:15 PM
Well, can concur that the Robocan's are the best thing EVER for fly maintenance. I'm very impressed. We have two to cover the two main house areas, and it's set to spray (more of a pffffft really :D ) every 7 mins.

It started working immediately and, having had them in place for 3 weeks, it now kills every insect that ventures inside, including small spiders and were-moths (no, really, there are some HUGE moths here :uhoh ).

I can't recommend Robocan enough :nice1. Okay, so it's chemicals, but it takes 24 hours to dispense the equivalent of a 3 sec blast from a can, and the mist is finer. And it works! Where's my commission..... :laugh

Hannah
5th January 2006, 02:00 PM
Do remember, that spiders eat flies.

Spiders are good!

Those that don't live in webs crawl around the ground eating dust mites and other yummy creatures. More spiders = less flies/mozzies/gnats etc.

I love spiders!!! Poor things are persecuted mercilessly.

Like Moorf, it's the flying mozzie things i don't like. My ankles are full of bites. As for house flies i spent most of yesterday swatting them, in the good old fashioned way, with a rolled up tea towel. i had over 20 in the bin by lunchtime...and, do you know, i damn well enjoyed myself. It was great! Well, it was raining most of yesterday and I was a bit bored......

Moorf
5th January 2006, 02:12 PM
When I'm in "rational" mode, spiders are great, as you say they eat the flies (albeit dead ones due to amazing Robocan!).... but most of the time I can't bear them and much as I'd like to be rational and see their place in the food chain I'd rather look after my heart and nerves and get rid of them!! :exit

Debbie
11th January 2006, 04:43 AM
Hi there,
If anyone has a min can you look and see if there is any contra-indications (sp) for asthma and the robocan thing you mention. Im not in NZ so assume its like one of those things that squirts a small amount of airfreshen from a can every *mins. Only its bug spray. Sounds very effective and just the sort of thing Im going to need. Is it standard bug spay or a special strengh one. How do you keep the bugs out of the bed rooms? I assume you cant use this can thing in there.
Debbie

kiwidebs
11th January 2006, 06:23 AM
I don't know the ins and outs but my brother is asthmatic and has one in his house with no problems.

Debs

Debbie
11th January 2006, 07:26 AM
Robocans it is then, Sorry but Im not good with bugs of any sort and 8 legged horrors !!!
One of the many reasons the OZ was not a real option.
Debbie

Moorf
11th January 2006, 10:13 AM
My little neice, Caitlin (age 6) was here for a month (Dec 05) and she suffers with asthma. We have 2 robocans in the house (one almost directly outside her bedroom) and she had no probs whatsoever.

Had the house spider and fly proofed (last week) and I've barely seen a bug in the house since... we had the outside walls etc done too ... bloomin' marvellous... after a couple of weeks with jangling nerves I rarely give multi-legged creatures a thought and I "know" that if I see one inside it'll be dead within 8 hours. Cost of having spider and fly proofed, inside and out, $220. 'Cos I'm worth it..... :D

Daffy
16th January 2006, 09:21 PM
Tiny eco-terrorist taking over the countryside :

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3542019a11,00.html

kiwidebs
17th January 2006, 02:20 AM
Now there's a good reason to settle in the far south!! They sound horrible.

Smiler
24th January 2006, 01:22 PM
Anyone got any idea where I can find a spiderban man of my own please? I've looked under pest control but they all seem for products I can purchase and squirt myself.

I've got tennis elbow from using the leccy bat thingy and I want a man to come round and do it for me;). Spray the house once that is!

D x

Moorf
24th January 2006, 02:03 PM
Just watch out for the new arrivals!! :exit


http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/423466/649156


Just read as far as "they can grow to the size of a handspan".... :wah .. enough already..

Smiler
24th January 2006, 02:09 PM
Oh EYUK! :exit

jubjub
24th January 2006, 03:03 PM
Eeeekkk glad I am not down there...

sizzlingbadger
24th January 2006, 04:31 PM
Have to say don't get the cheaper version of Robocan, I think it's EvoAir. We stuck one in before Christmas and ever since I've had awful asthma. Using what usually is the very occasional inhaler to three/four times a day :(

The only reason I found this out was that we went away at the weekend and I was fine, only had to use inhaler once. My wonderful husband then went around with the raid can in the bach and I was back to horrendous asthma again.

We've now banished the can to the garage and we're going to try RoboCan but if my asthma plays up that will be banished to. Luckily we've sprayed the house ourselves with Mortein and it seems to be doing a good job, just need an environmentally friendly way of killing them.

Smiler
24th January 2006, 06:45 PM
Siz
I'm sorry to hear you've been wheezy but glad you found out the reason. This was sommat else that worried me.

Do you mean you go round with the Mortein can yourselves or have you had the house spider sprayed?

I've phoned a couple of firms this afternoon and the price of having the house sprayed inside and out is $135-165. Sounds similar to SpiderBan that Farmer Moorf had done with the P chemicalPermethrin, and then I read this http://www.safe2use.com/poisons-pesticides/pesticides/permethrin/cox-report/cox.htm. One company said they won't treat inside because of the 'risk' but do the outside instead. Two other say it is safe you just need to go out for 4 hours. :confused:

Sorry if I've stretched the thread

D

Moorf
28th January 2006, 10:29 PM
Oh, another interesting bug spray fact. Me? Obsessed? Nah.... :uhoh

I was bemoaning the fact that the dead flies are a bugger to hoover up.. they just seem to cling to the carpet for dear life after Robocan has killed them off... when a neighbour pointed out that the spray appears to kill them by making their bottoms explode and the goo sticks them to the carpet!! On closer examination I think they're right .... EEEEWWWWWWW.. but I'm still Robocan's no.1 fan.. bloomin' marvellous!!

Hope no-one was eating whilst reading that..... :laugh

sizzlingbadger
29th January 2006, 08:19 AM
EEEEWWW :laugh

That sounds disgusting, MH was going to get a Robocan to try but so far hasn't been able to find one, after reading that I think we'll leave it.

Smiler,

Husband bought Mortein and went around the outside of the house himself. He couldn't see why we would want to get someone in when he could get the stuff himself. So far it's worked really well and we don't have as many flies and bugs getting in.

I would be very wary of getting the inside of the house sprayed now, this week my asthma has all but cleared up after we've properly aired the house. Although I have a phobia of spiders I can just about cope with them in the house, found I can just about hoover them up without feeling really sick :laugh We still get the odd fly in but they soon die as they've been near the stuff outside.

Smiler
29th January 2006, 10:09 AM
YEEEEUKKKKK!!!!!:wah How close did you get to the bottom. ;)

Sizz

Did hubby just get the mortein in a can, from the supermarket or am I to look for a bulk pack or something? Did he wear a mask and gloves and spray in the eaves and window frames?

Sorry so many questions. :o I'll happily give it a go if I know what I'm supposed to be doing. :laugh

Thanks for your help

Deborah

Moorf
29th January 2006, 11:48 AM
Smiler - I saw "DIY" spraying kits in Bunnings yesterday - you could try one and if you're still having bug probs then get in the pro's? I didn't get toooo close to their bottoms, just close enough to see the yellow goo coming out of it!! And apparently most sprays work in the same way....

Sizz - you're probably better off with a solution other than Robocan if you're sensitive to the sprays - it goes off every 7 mins (I think you can extend this) and so you're going to have a constant stream of it in the air. With two in the house I have a "pffft" every few mins or so! I have to say though, with my little neice suffereng from asthma and excema I was relieved that it did not affect her at all during her month stay.

I saw another fly solution in Bunnings but it involved sticking a stinky fish into a bucket with a "solution" - I think I'd rather have flies than that smell !!!

Smiler
29th January 2006, 12:06 PM
Smiler - I saw "DIY" spraying kits in Bunnings yesterday - you could try one and if you're still having bug probs then get in the pro's? I didn't get toooo close to their bottoms, just close enough to see the yellow goo coming out of it!! And apparently most sprays work in the same way....

Sizz - you're probably better off with a solution other than Robocan if you're sensitive to the sprays - it goes off every 7 mins (I think you can extend this) and so you're going to have a constant stream of it in the air. With two in the house I have a "pffft" every few mins or so! I have to say though, with my little neice suffereng from asthma and excema I was relieved that it did not affect her at all during her month stay.

I saw another fly solution in Bunnings but it involved sticking a stinky fish into a bucket with a "solution" - I think I'd rather have flies than that smell !!!

Well I look at it if you are close enough to see the yellow goo, you're too close :laugh:laugh

I'll whip up to Bunnings and have a look, thank you for the tip. I nearly have shares in them already! I thought it would be a controlled substance kinda thing and you would need to be licensed hence me getting the quotes.

As cheap as monkfish is here, I'll don't think I'll waste any by sticking it in a bucket, unless it is filled with chilli and lime or satay sauce. :p

Thanks again
D x

sizzlingbadger
29th January 2006, 12:09 PM
Hi Smiler

Think it came in a small plastic bottle (a bit like the oil bottles you get for your car ). He just sprayed it around the house without a mask on although I would imagine you'd be better off wearing one.

Smiler
29th January 2006, 12:15 PM
Hi Smiler

Think it came in a small plastic bottle (a bit like the oil bottles you get for your car ). He just sprayed it around the house without a mask on although I would imagine you'd be better off wearing one.

Thanks sizz, I'm going to compare products and get going on this, the flies are a comin in and I've just started to find multi coloured spiders, although they aren't big, I'm sure they'll grow. :exit

With my chest ;) I like the idea of a one off rather than the timed spray, but who knows til I try it?

Deborah

Smiler
13th March 2006, 12:04 PM
Moorf

I guess you're not going to bid on this then?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Lounge-dining-hall/Tables/Coffee-tables/auction-49871398.htm

I can't think of anything worse to have in our lounge except perhaps the ex MIL. :uhoh

Moorf
13th March 2006, 12:41 PM
:eek: :exit ..

noobie
20th March 2006, 05:44 AM
The good news: Permethrin is very safe. It is naturally derived from chrysanthemums, and is very effective at killing insects. The human body neutralizes it on contact with the skin. It can be used to safely treat clothes as well, although they will need to be treated every few washings. I have read of one person who tried to commit suicide by drinking a very large quantity of it, and he had a full recovery in a few days.

The bad news: It's still a toxin, so don't start bathing in it. Some of the scarier info is available here (http://www.safe2use.com/poisons-pesticides/pesticides/permethrin/cox-report/cox.htm) .

jazz
24th March 2006, 10:40 AM
Hi all,
I lived in ChCh four 4 years(will be returning this year,another story!)between 2000-2004.During this time our house or townhouse as they call them was plagued by white tailed spiders.I didn`t realise they were poisonous until the local paper had a lead article with a huge photo of one!And we had seen dozens!Our son was only a few months old at the time so something needed to be done quick.I bought a product called No Spiders and sprayed the house inside and out,in no time at all the only White Tails we saw were dried husks!
The only downside to this chemical i can see is that it wipes out every species of spider,but hey whats a bit of collateral damage between friends?!
By the way what a great forum this is.

Jules
13th July 2006, 10:05 AM
Can anyone help me, we have got ants IN the house, I have washed the floor with bleach, all the tops are clean but they still come in. I cant even see where they are coming in. We have got some spray to use outside but never got round to using it. I just wondered if there was anything you could use inside the house.

Jules :wah

Marie P
13th July 2006, 10:12 AM
Hi Jules,

I have used RAID Advanced Ant control system . the 2 times we had ants .It is liquid and you pour a little into a container provided,the ants climb in and then carry the liquid back to the nest .

I bought it at countdown ,its in a red box.

Good luck ...I hate ants too !

Marie x

Jules
13th July 2006, 10:14 AM
Thanks Marie you are a star.

Jules

Jules
21st July 2006, 10:16 AM
Just an update on my ant problem. I bought the Raid stuff and no more ants :nice1

They started to come in the bathroom as well as the kitchen, put the stuff down in the kitchen and they have disappeared :raebanana

Jules

Marie P
21st July 2006, 08:03 PM
Woohooooo ........I've finally been some help to someone on the forum :nice1

Marie x

shameless
25th July 2006, 05:23 AM
Just an FYI on pesticides. Its seems like people are assuming that these household pesticides are ok because they don't result in any noticeable health effects. That would be fine except that the damage that most pesticides cause are much more long term and many are known carcinagens. (never mind the evironmental damage they do)

I am not saying that anyone should or shouldn't use them as it seems like the insect problems are legitimately unbearable and likely unsolvable any other way, but be aware, they are definitely having negative effects on you (especially children and pets)

The fact that one is derived from natural ingredients isn't particularly relivant either as most chemicals are either natural or synthetically derived to mimic something natural. Often times synthetics will be less toxic actually.

Again, if you have got a bunch of poisenous spiders hanging around the house (or even 40 flies bleech!), i would do whatever it takes to get rid of them, but I might look for the least toxic way first and work my way up to the pesticides.

BTW - Is this mainly a suburban and rural problem or do those who live in the central cities also get this type of infestation? Just curious.

martin&maria
10th September 2006, 09:41 AM
hi just wondering what kinda spiders nz gets as i am terrified of the normal british household spiders should i be scared!

Carol
10th September 2006, 11:08 AM
hi just wondering what kinda spiders nz gets as i am terrified of the normal british household spiders should i be scared!

I dont really get scared of spiders......there is one that can give you a nasty bite - a white tailed one. But apart from that - no - it's just the size of them that can be a bit intimidating.

Now mice.......that's a VERY different story for me!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
:exit

Carol
10th September 2006, 11:10 AM
Can anyone help me, we have got ants IN the house

Jules :wah


One of the scariest things I have ever seen was a friend's house under invasion of ants.
I mean - they were even coming out of the electricity sockets!!!!!!

eugh!!

Raid worked a treat for her too.

Moorf
10th September 2006, 12:23 PM
Oh, don't get me started on spiders - if you really must know then take a look at the Te Papa site: http://www.tepapa.govt.nz/TePapa/English/CollectionsAndResearch/Collections/InsectsSpidersAndSimilar/Spiders/Spiders_Web/What/

I'd rather a mouse in my house anyday (in fact one ran up my arm the other day when I got the new sack of chook food out of the garage!) - had it been a spider on my arm I would have run several km's... biter or non-biter :o

The nurserywebs (we have loads in our garden) are my least favourite - apparently they also bite and you can see their fangs(!) - and they are so big I swear you can almost see them breath! :exit

Woz likes to catch all types and stick them under a glass so I can "see how beautiful and timid they are" :uhoh hmmm...

Carol
10th September 2006, 12:29 PM
[QUOTE=Moorf]
(in fact one ran up my arm the other day when I got the new sack of chook food out of the garage!)








OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*hyperventilating*
:exit

Moorf
10th September 2006, 12:37 PM
Aww, it was a cute one - could have been a vole or something - tan and black :D

*handing paper bag to Carol*

Carol
10th September 2006, 12:39 PM
*handing paper bag to Carol*


thanks Helen


*barf*

Jules
11th September 2006, 10:30 AM
The other night my OH was in the spa pool, he had taken off his shorts and put them on the side of the spa, next minute he was banging on the window to me, I went out and his shorts were on the floor with a MASSIVE spider on them!!!!, get the camera he said, I went and got the camera and took some pictures of it. OH got out of the spa (I went to get him some more shorts) he put it in a plastic container and said he would take it to work with him the next day to see if anyone knows what kind it is. Anyway, he came back in and had a look on web (excuse the pun) to see if he could find out what kind it was, we think it was a water spider!!!! The next morning I had a look to see if it was still alive, it was, so I let it go and it ran off into the distance (thank god), now OH thinks it is looking at us from the depths of the tree!!!!

I will get him to post the pictures so you can all have a look!!!!!! :exit

Jules

kiwidebs
12th September 2006, 10:19 AM
So where's the photos then?? I'll have a look and scare the living daylights out of myself again!!! I had a dream about Avondale Spiders last night (the ones used in the movie Arachnophobia), no idea why!

Jules
12th September 2006, 10:22 AM
So where's the photos then??

I will sort them tonight :nice1 , still on the camera :)

Jules

Jules
12th September 2006, 09:21 PM
Here is the picture of the spider, beware!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/redrowe/spider.jpg

Jules :exit

Carol
12th September 2006, 09:24 PM
Blimey - you wouldnt argue with that would you?
:eek:

zardell
12th September 2006, 09:30 PM
Well, I'm a bit disappointed really........

I'd have thought you would have held it in your hand so that we could get an idea of comparative size........ :eek:

:exit

Julie

xx

Moorf
12th September 2006, 10:00 PM
Looks like a nurseryweb to me... they can be that light or a bit darker... big beggars..

Singel
12th September 2006, 11:17 PM
OMG :eek:

If I see one like this, I will be screaming at the top of my voice and run :exit

I just so terrify of crippy crawlies :o

Moorf
12th September 2006, 11:27 PM
With spiders it's the only time where size REALLY doesn't matter..... ;)

Jules
12th September 2006, 11:36 PM
Well, I'm a bit disappointed really........

I'd have thought you would have held it in your hand so that we could get an idea of comparative size........ :eek:

:exit

Julie

xx

I will let you have a go first :D

Jules

zardell
13th September 2006, 12:41 AM
I will let you have a go first :D

Jules



You're too kind.......... but I'll pass if that's ok.........:D


Julie

xx

Jules
13th September 2006, 10:16 AM
No honestly Julie you go first :yes I will save you one for when you get here and we can have a competition to see who can keep it in their hand the longest :clap

I must admit, I am more scared of the little spiders than the big ones :uhoh the little ones seem to scurry around and hide in places where you cant see them, where the BIG ones are BIG and you can see them, if you get my meaning :roll

Jules

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