[irishgirl]

Hi all

Has anyone come across either Riemann's P20 or a similar product called Parasol 20+ sun screens? They were readily available in europe, but so far can't find them anywhere, and I have consulted the Google oracle!
As a red head, they are they only things that stop me burning in this sun!!!

Cheers


Dee

[jubjub]

You cant seem to get the P20 here, but you can get SPF 30 lotions, one called Daylong we have tried and have just bought a cancer society branded but not tried that yet.

There was a big fuss in the news during the week...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10360371

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10360247

[irishgirl]

Thanks Sal! Didn't think it was available! Will just have to ask some kind person at home to send over a large bottle!

I did buy some of that day long 30+ stuff yesterday, but I could feel myself burning with it yesterday while myself and Smiler were enjoying the sun down on the waterfront, so I think the Cancer Society were right to question it's claims!!

Dee
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[Smiler]

I thought I'd slopped on enough factor 30, but I have a glowing V shape on my errr upper chest ;)

D

[veronica]

theres a lot to be said for sitting in the shade or covering up in the middle of the day whenever possible. it will probably outrage a lot of people about us being irresponsible but since we have been here (18Months) neither Pete nor myself have worn sunscreen, although Pete does put a hat on and So far we havent had any problems with getting any sunburn, in fact the opposite is true, we're not even tanning particularly. I do have reservations about a lot of the sunscreens and cosmetic products because whatever you put on your skin is absorbed into the body. I know that a lot of people have found that taking extra doses of keritan (or some such vitamin) has helped with sun protection and I also think I have read somewhere that the contraceptive pill and some other medication can have the reverse affect and cause sun sensitivity. Might be worth doing a www search on that sort of thing and see if it will give any help.

[Rustie]

I've used P20 a few times and thought it was pretty good but very sticky! I bought it on ebay, but there again I have my post forwarded from my UK address so I didn't have pay the postage!

A better one that I use now is Piz Buin 1 day long. It's not sticky, very quick to use and (as a redhead :nice1 ) I've not yet been burnt using it!

I've seen it in shops/chemists in NZ so you should be able to get hold of some easily.

Rustie
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[irishgirl]

Cheers Rustie! Yes, I've seen the Piz Buin stuff too. Might give it a go while I'm waiting for the P20 to arrive from Ireland!


Dee

[Tia Maria]

Rustie - Does Piz Buin 1 day lotion protect against UV A and UV B?

Tia

[selchie]

I recommend that you look for an even higher P factor, such as 45. Also look for transparent titanium oxide in the ingredients. It will help protect, but not make you look ghastly. The sunshine is very strong in NZ, and melanoma is no joke.

[K&CS]

What sort of factor would you recommend for a baby (he'll be 6 months)? I know we managed to get burnt very quickly last time we were in NZ (and it wasn't even that sunny), so I'm quite concerned about not burning him!

Kate

[Avalon]

I woudl recoomend Sun Sense sunscreens! They are truly fab, and the only thing that not only stops me burning to a cinder (all day cover), but is kinder to the skin than most product. I used to have all the technical blurb for it but I dont anymore. I was asked to get this in the UK specailly for a naturopathic doctor attached to teh Pharmacy / Doctors I used to work in. Its made on OZ, so not easily available in the UK. The doctor wanted it for his patients on the basis that it contained less of the ingredients that can cause skin problems, Its also low on Zinc Oxide - so doesnt leve you white.

I use th SFP 30 for the body (its actuallt sold as SFP 60 in the UK), Daily face (spf 60) which is a matt moisturiser, adn I also have the sports milk which is water resistant for swimming.

They are truly great products - and definatley worth a try for those of us with fair skin and an abilty to turn bright red in minutes!

[bob_the_engineer]

UK sunscreen (in the bin)

I really love to be out in the sunshine, I just thought I’d tell you about my findings here in NZ.

I brought a bottle of expensive, quality sunscreen with me to NZ. I used this while wondering around Greece in the summer. A Greek summer is fabulous at 40 C, coated in sunscreen a shirt and hat and I had no problems.

I have no ambition to get a tan, I have dark hair, my skin tans quickly, but I do have green eyes and find bright sunlight painful if I’m not wearing sunglasses.
Something I have noticed here in NZ is that even on overcast days I have to wear sunglasses or my eyes sting.

On to the point I wanted to make, I used the same sunscreen that I’d used in Greece (do remember were talking Greek summer at 40c here) and found myself burning in NZ with the temperature in the mid 20’s.

I can only tell you what worked for me and that was using some of the local potion, I read a note in this tread (I think) thatt the rating of sunscreen changes when it’s sold in the southern hemisphere. So IMHO don’t place your trust in anything you bought in the UK and get something when you land here.

Bob

[UktoKiwi]

I know skin cancer is a real issue in NZ and OZ.
Does anyone know which is worse or better out of Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch for sunburn or skin cancer problems? Or maybe they are all about the same??

[selchie]

I know skin cancer is a real issue in NZ and OZ.
Does anyone know which is worse or better out of Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch for sunburn or skin cancer problems? Or maybe they are all about the same??
They are probably quite similar. Perhaps you could check the weather reports online. The newspapers usually post the UV Index, and they must get that from some weather service or other.

[Avalon]

Something I have noticed here in NZ is that even on overcast days I have to wear sunglasses or my eyes sting.
Bob
So with you on this. I need shades just to go out and get the post!

The sunlight seems much more "intence" here.

[Smiler]

Me too, I have to wear them just to go out on the deck :exit and when driving especially. I now substitute my normal glasses for my prescription sunglasses all the time. D

[Dhart1978]

The UV is shockingly strong over here, AFAIK the ozone hole above antartctica forms during the NZ winter then breaks up as we approach summer, and the winds carry up the ozone depleted air ove NZ during the summer, My partner and I probably burn on a normal 20 degree day in around 10 minutes and dont really use anything but a SPF 30. Remember the temp is largely irrelevent, IR radiation does not help but in this UV is the king. Some of out NZ friends went to greece recently and barely needed suntan lotions at all as their skin has such UV resistance from the NZ climate (not that thats a good thing !)