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Tanya
28th December 2005, 11:10 AM
Sad thread I know but I am trying to make a cheesecake I used to make in the UK which uses Double Cream. Has anyone here found an equivalent for it or know what I can use to substitute it??

Many thanks for any suggestions in advance :)

Tanya :confused:

Moorf
28th December 2005, 12:03 PM
I use the pots of "thickened cream" from Woollies.... I think it's made by Anchor - in the chiller with the bottles of single cream :nice1

Avalon
28th December 2005, 02:39 PM
Ive given up! The thicked cream isnt real double cream - its pouring cream with thickeners in such as gelatine! Yuck! For cheesecake its actually unlikely to give you the same "richness" that double cream would.

Ive just made Delia's Truffle Torte, adn used normal pouring cream that I had to whip a bit extra to get it thick enough. It worked fine, but it lost some of the richness.

Try both? I cant use the Thickened cream becasue I cant eat the stuff they add to it (and i object on principle - but thats just me!)

I really dont understand why they cant make double cream here - theres enough dairy cows.

Tanya
29th December 2005, 07:07 AM
Thanks to you both. I used that horrible thickened cream in the end - wasn't quite the same - may try the normal cream next time.

You are both stars

Tanya :nice1

Dinnaefash
2nd January 2006, 05:47 AM
I had exactly the same trouble for Xmas Day!! The 'thickened' stuff is pretty yuk - doesn't even taste like double cream - and as a veggie I won't be eating it again. Sour cream is the same, has all that extra stuff in it!!! Eeek! What's a girl to do. I'm about to email Anchor and find out what's going on, will keep you posted!

Dinnaefash
4th January 2006, 03:12 PM
Got an answer!

"Thank you for your email regarding Double Cream. The Anchor
Cream is an extra thick cream for whipping and is the equivalent to the
double cream you have in the UK. We also have a thickened cream.
Recently we deleted the single cream from our range due to poor demand.

Kind regards,
Pat Wareham
Consumer Relations Officer
0800 103 778 "

Smiler
4th January 2006, 04:03 PM
I bought some fresh stuff in a plastic bottle with a red top in New World.

It whipped up fine for the Pav. But is that the thickened goop? :confused:


Deborah

Tanya
4th January 2006, 06:22 PM
Got an answer!

"Thank you for your email regarding Double Cream. The Anchor
Cream is an extra thick cream for whipping and is the equivalent to the
double cream you have in the UK. We also have a thickened cream.
Recently we deleted the single cream from our range due to poor demand.

Kind regards,
Pat Wareham
Consumer Relations Officer
0800 103 778 "

Thanks for that :clap :)
Now we know!
Tanya

Dinnaefash
9th January 2006, 05:31 AM
Smiler, the plastic bottles with a red cap are the single cream. The thickened stuff is in a little pot.

Now, anyone know how I go about making sour cream from cream, so I don't have to buy that yucky stuff????

Tanya
9th January 2006, 06:41 AM
Smiler, the plastic bottles with a red cap are the single cream. The thickened stuff is in a little pot.

Now, anyone know how I go about making sour cream from cream, so I don't have to buy that yucky stuff????


To make Soured Cream

Stir 5ml (1 tspn) Lemon juice into 150ml (1/4 pint) fresh single cream and leave it to stand for 30 minutes. Voila!

Tanya

Monzie
9th January 2006, 07:03 AM
A number of the websites I've consulted suggest that you can't make proper sour cream using the pasteurized cream available at the supermarket. And you're only going to get unpasteurized stuff if you know a friendly dairy farmer (or a friendly cow!).

I'd recommend trying the lemon juice trick that Tanya mentioned. But if it doesn't work, you'll know why....no nice bacteria to help out!

Emma
11th January 2006, 02:48 AM
Ok, now I want to know! Being from the Netherlands and all. What is double cream anyway? I've been wondering about this for a while now and I can't figure it out. In the Netherlands we have cream and low-fat cream. That's it.

Oh and of course sour cream (but I usually make that myself with cream and lemon juice as mentioned before) and we have something called creme fraiche (something similar to sour cream).

In order to make cheese cake we use 'fromage frais' (fresh cheese). An originally french product and is low fat or non-fat.

Somebody help me ;)

Dutch Emma

Smiler
11th January 2006, 03:03 AM
Emma

Looks like it might be your normal one. I got this from google as I couldn't remember the % of fat. :eek: It contains about 48% butterfat. Double cream is so rich, in fact, that it is easy to over whip it and get it too thick.

Single cream is a lot lower in fat about 20% and doesn't whip, just for pouring.

Whipping cream is about 40% fat and whips quicker than double but doesn't taste as rich. I'm sure the calorie difference in minimal. :laugh

Creme Fraiche we have in the UK and here in NZ too and it is how I like to make cheesecake.

In the Uk we also have cottage cheese which is cheese curd and whey (YUK), lumpy and thin with a sharp taste.

Here endeth the cooking lesson for today. :D

Where are you in NL and how long have you got there? Doh! I just read your location, I couldn't see it in my reply, sorry.

Deborah

Emma
11th January 2006, 03:24 AM
Thanks Deborah!

One thing less on my mind to think about ;) We also have cottage cheese here but we call it 'huttenkase' with two horizontol dots on the u and the a (Dutch people are a bit lazy and we don't bother to translate products. :D It's a Swiss product I think so that's different to the fromage frais again. Fromage frais is not lumpy at all but very smooth!

Anyway, I'm from the South of the Netherlands and we were hoping to be in NZ by October. :raebanana Tomorrow we have our medicals, we had our bloodtests done already and they were OK so I think we will be all right. Hopefully we will be sending in our application beginning of February.

Dutch Emma

Smiler
11th January 2006, 03:39 AM
Emma

No worries. Fromage frais is a aimed at kids, I guess because of the smooth texture (and they add the colours and cartoon characters round the pots for the parents) I think without these you couldn't get anyone to eat it, so a good marketing ploy. :nice1

Good luck with your medicals tomorrow. I'm sure everything will be fine and you can get your application in pronto.

I have family spread all over NL from Breda to Julianadorp and it is brill to talk to them via skype from here for free :clap From the Uk it is expensive, my Mum pays 20 pence a min or more! Thats landline to landline across a few miles of water.

October will be here before you know it. Hang on to your hat!

Deborah

Emma
12th January 2006, 07:08 AM
What 20p a minute!? She should look around a bit. We pay 1 Eurocent a minute to the UK (Sis lives in Newcastle). I'm sure my sister doesn't pay that much. She is a firm believer of the 1 pound shops ;)

The medicals went ok. Everything was fine but we were left with a bit of a odd feeling afterwards. Can't really explain but we thought the doctor was a bit peculiar. Anyway, we got it over and done with. Check :D ... On to the next issue on the list.

Oops, we're way of the subject this thread started with...

Dutch Emma

ps: I lived in Breda for 5 years. Beautiful :nice1

Avalon
12th January 2006, 09:29 AM
Hmmmm - im not really buying that Anchor Pouring cream is anything like the same as UK Double Cream. Id have hated to try thier single cream!

However - ive just checked on Fitday - a nutritional program I use to help with diet and fitness and:

Anchor cream has 18% fat, and Heavy cream (the US version of double cream) has 17% fat.

Anyone in the UK have the % for proper Doulbe Cream?

NZ pouring cream still doesnt taste as rich though.

kiwidebs
12th January 2006, 10:02 AM
Anyone in the UK have the % for proper Doulbe Cream?

This might help Avalon - from the Waitrose website

Cream

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There are many different types of cream, with varying consistencies and tastes.

Channel Island extra thick double cream

A rich, thick cream that is made with milk from Guernsey and Jersey cows, it can be used straight from the tub. It has a fat content of 48%.
Uses: Spoon over puddings or fruit or add to sauces for a rich, creamy taste. Also ideal for using to fill sponge cakes or gateaux.
To store: Keep in the fridge for up to 5 days, once opened use within 3 days and consume by the use by date.

Clotted cream

Clotted cream is the thickest and richest type of cream available and is traditionally made in Devon or Cornwall. The cream is gently scalded to produce its golden crust. It has a spoonable consistency and does not need to be whipped before serving. It has a fat content of 55% and is not recommended for cooking because it tends to separate on heating.
Uses: Traditionally served on scones with jam, also good on fresh fruit and ice cream.
To store: Keep in the fridge for up to 2 weeks and consume by the use by date. It can be frozen for up to 1 month.

Crème fraîche

This is fresh cream which is treated with a bacteria culture that thickens it and gives it a slightly sour taste. It is suitable for spooning, is widely used in French cookery and is becoming increasingly popular in Britain. It has a fat content of 39% and cannot be whipped. For a healthier alternative choose the half fat version.
Uses: Crème fraîche is ideal for serving with fruit and puddings, it can also be used for making salad dressings and dips. It can be used in cooking to add a creamy taste to curries, sauces and casseroles.
To store: Keep in the fridge for up to 5 days, once opened use within 3 days and consume by the use by date. It cannot be frozen.

Double cream

This is the most versatile type of fresh cream, it can be used as it is or whipped. Double cream contains 48% fat.
Uses: It can be used as a pouring cream over fruit and puddings, used in cooking or whipped and incorporated into dishes or served separately. Whipped double cream can be spooned or piped on to desserts and cakes.
To store: Keep in the fridge for up to 5 days, once opened use within 3 days and consume by the use by date. It can be frozen for up to 2 months when lightly whipped.

Extra thick single cream

This has the same fat content as single cream (18%) but it has been homogenised to produce a thick spoonable consistency similar to double cream: it cannot be whipped.
Uses: Serve with fruit and desserts.
To store: Keep in the fridge for up to 5 days, once opened use within 3 days and consume by the use by date. It is unsuitable for freezing.

Flavoured creams

Available at Christmas, Brandy cream and Calvados and cinnamon cream are made from a combination of double cream, sugar and alcohol.
Uses: Serve with Christmas pudding, apple tart or any chocolate or nut pudding. Spoon over warm mince pies or use to fill brandy snaps. A spoonful of flavoured cream in hot chocolate is delicious.
To store: Keep in the fridge and consume by the use by date. Once opened use within 3 days.

Goat's milk double cream

Made from pasteurised goat's milk from St Helen's Farm in Yorkshire, goat's milk double cream has an ice white appearance and tastes smooth and mild. Goat's milk double cream is suitable for cow's milk-free and vegetarian diets.
Uses: It can be used for whipping, pouring or simply spooning on to desserts.
To store: Keep in the fridge for up to 5 days, once opened use within 3 days and consume by the use by date. It can be frozen for up to 2 months when lightly whipped.

Organic extra thick cream

Organic thick cream is made from milk produced on farms practising organic farming methods to Soil Association standards.
Uses: Spoon on to fruit, puddings and cakes or add to soups and sauces for a rich creamy taste.
To store: Keep in the fridge for up to 5 days, once opened use within 3 days and consume by the use by date. It is unsuitable for freezing.

Reduced fat extra thick cream

With 50% less fat than standard thick double cream but all the delicious flavour, this cream contains 24% fat. It is not suitable for whipping or boiling.
Uses: Serve with fruit or puddings or use in cooking for a rich, creamy flavour.
To store: Keep in the fridge for up to 5 days, once opened use within 3 days and consume by the use by date. It is unsuitable for freezing.

Reduced fat single cream

With 25% less fat than standard single cream (it has 12% fat) this is an ideal low fat alternative. It is not suitable for whipping or boiling.
Uses: In sauces, soups and dressings and coffee and to pour over fruit.
To store: Keep in the fridge for up to 5 days, once opened use within 3 days and consume by the use by date. It is unsuitable for freezing.

Single cream

Single cream is a thin cream traditionally used for pouring and for enriching cooked dishes, it contains 18% fat.
Uses: For pouring over fruit and puddings and in cooking, especially in soups and sauces although it should never be allowed to boil. It is not suitable for whipping.
To store: Keep in the fridge for up to 5 days, once opened use within 3 days and consume by the use by date. It cannot be frozen unless it is incorporated into a cooked dish.

Soured cream

This is a tangy cream made from fresh single cream. It has a thick texture and a mildly acidic taste. It is commercially soured by adding a culture - similar to that used in the production of yogurt. It has a fat content of 18% and cannot be whipped.
Uses: It can be used in savoury dishes such as beef stroganoff and soups and as a base for savoury dips.
To store: Keep in the fridge for up to 5 days, once opened use within 3 days and consume by the use by date. It cannot be frozen.

Whipping cream

This cream will whip to double its original volume, which makes it perfect for adding to dishes where a light, creamy result is needed. Whipping cream contains 38% fat.
Uses: Perfect for mousses and soufflés, filling cakes and gateaux, decorating trifles and topping fruit and ice cream. Float whipped cream on coffee or hot chocolate. Once whipped the cream does not hold its volume for long so it should be used straight away.
To store: Keep in the fridge for up to 5 days, once opened use within 3 days and consume by the use by date. Whipping cream can be frozen for up to 2 months when lightly whipped.



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Avalon
12th January 2006, 02:43 PM
Kiwidebs-

You are a star - I never thought of that!

Anyway - puts paid to Anchor's little claim - pouring cream is single. Obviously its just a British thing or something to haev really high fat cream?

I miss waitrose :o

Monzie
13th January 2006, 11:27 AM
Actually, in the US "heavy cream" contains between 36 and 40% fat. "Whipping cream" contains between 30 and 36%. Both are generally available in the supermarket...along with "Half n Half" which is only 12% fat and used for coffee.

Something approximating UK double cream can sometimes be found here in gourmet markets. But because most dairy farmers in the US favor Holstein cows, who produce leaner milk, we don't see many ultra-high fat dairy products. Guernseys and Jerseys have lovely fatty milk...but they're not commonly raised on this side of the pond.

Okay. So there's my lesson in American dairy products. Not that this helps with your New Zealand cream quandry.

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