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bozandhelen
30th December 2005, 07:23 PM
Hi guys

I know I've been a bit conspicuous by my absence in the last month or so, so I thought I'd kind of make it up a bit with a 2-part mega-post....

The 'rental' I have in Nelson is more of a house sitting job with dog, cat, 'car' and dial-up Internet (yuk) thrown in for good measure, I thought I'd done pretty well getting this for $275 a week inclusive of everything, but it does also tie you down to being in one place with no room to do anything but day trips. Day trips from here by car can however be Blenheim, Picton, Abel Tasmin etc so it gives me a wide area to visit and look at.

Nelson itself has got pretty well everything you could want and if you count Richmond, (and why shouldnt you as they are next to each other) it has a couple of nice shopping areas with all of NZ's big shops present in abundance. Five minutes either way and you can be on Tahunanui beach or up on a Mountain trail to nowhere, a bit longer, 15 minutes you can be on Rabbit Island beach and 30 mins later you could be in Motueka and up near Abel Tasman park. The town centre has a lot of outdoor cafe and bar areas and it is partially pedestrianised in places so that you seem to have more right of way than the car in most places. The cinema is pretty good, the library is excellent and have a partial Internet access so you can access most job sites without resorting to an Internet cafe. Lots of tourists swell the numbers up in the summer (acording to my local kiwi source) and it definately feels like a tourist spot. The place is fairly hilly, the road maps of the area don't make much sense until you've factored all the hills into it and a straight line is sometimes not your quickest route. (Especially by bike!!)

The house I am in is up in the Abraham Heights looking back across the valley to the hospital, unfortunately the million dollar views in a lot of these places are not all they seem as many of the newer houses are built in a sub-division, ie the original (kiwi quarter acre) section has been split in two, or even three, and another house built just behind it with access sharing or cutting the side off the front lot in many cases. This may not be so bad but the quality of the contruction here, especially the lack of double-glazing, means you can hear almost every noise your neighbour makes. Add one or more teenager to the street and you will be trying to sleep over the thumping of Emenem and gangster rap. If you are going to buy a sub-division or move to a densely packed area you would be wise to check out the neighbourhood very very carefully..

Secondly, and it's been mentioned a few times, but the sound of souped up bangers can get on your nerves. IF your checking out the neighbourhood avoid anything with lots of old or sporty looking bangers (big exhaust pipe is the only thing you need look for!) on the streets and definately do not live on a main thouroughfare to anywhere one of these guys lives. The prices of 3 or 4 bed houses in these types of areas in Nelson are not going anywhere ($220K to $270K is the norm) and its most definately a buyers market in these properties, however houses in lower density or 'posher' areas do seem to be still selling but even these are flattening. Prices can double or half in as much as 2 streets so it is definately worth doing some legwork and totally ignore the crap written by the estate agents.

Some of the areas out of the city are really nice, and some of the people I have visited outside of the city have beautiful houses and sections. If it's the good life your after then it definately pays to move a bit out of the main towns or away from the coast, a house with an acre plus can still be got for easily under $300K within 10-15 mins of Nelson, though the house may be a "handymans dream" to quote the agents. (read "demolish and build new!")

Motueka town is a bit featureless with quite a few ex-hippy type people and shops there (POTueka my friend calls it!), however, its saving grace is the proximity to the beautiful beaches there and a few minutes drive either way, also if you live a few KM outside the area the scenery is stunning and inland prices get a lot lower and section sizes get a lot bigger. (I doubt this will last for much longer though!) I also got the guided tour around mapua which was really nice. It looked like a really nice place with not too many low density and high quality housing, good views, a couple of nice bars and cafes and a good beach (the main beach was across a private island/camp but you could walk around to it at low tide). However if you live in Mapua you would need to do all your shopping somewhere else as there really is nothing else and you would need to commute somewhere to work. Richmond, newer, lower density (pricey) houses, good shopping mall, free parking, pretty central for Tasman bays but I havent really stayed there apart from hitting the Mall on a hot afternoon to cool down. Other areas I'll get around to visiting sooner or later, so maybe I can do an update sometime.

Apart from the second week which was off and on it has been very sunny here, not too hot though at night and definately not muggy, most of the rain seems to happen at night and even if it does pee it down there will always be a bit of sun. Its very strange having predicatable weather, I could almost get used to it! It also looks hotter than it is just because of all the tropical palms which seem to thrive here.

I've been using the owners mountain bike a lot here as the roads are pretty cycle friendly with most roads having a cycle lane, you soon get used to putting on a helmet (something I never did in the UK) and ther are plenty of places in the streets to park your bike. Streets seem safe enough though I've not walked home later than 10PM yet

My ritual at the moment is wake up take the dog a walk on the beach, shower and spend the rest of the morning in the library looking for jobs, some days I just get in my banger of a car and drive off to a beach or see the locations nearby. The car deserves a chapter in itself. The car they left for me is a 1985 Diahatsu Mira, whose only redeming feature is that you can wind down all four windows while driving. I really cannot believe that when Frankie goes to Hollywood was number one and Bob Geldolf was saving Africa, Japans contribution to 1985 was building crap like this. Rather than buy a new car though I am determined to save money and use it, even to the point of doing the 130KM trip to blenheim in it. I did of course join the AA ($77/Yr) just in case!

So job hunting, hows it going? Well the good news is I managed to get one interview in the second week and they offered me the job, the problem was the interview and job were in Blenheim. I say problem, but it isn't really, it's just that I was just getting used to the idea of living in Nelson. I did apply for a few jobs in town but I seriously had to hack my CV around so as not to appear too over-qualified and none of the jobs were really that suitable, if I had a few more contacts I would however have seriously thought of starting a business as it's dead easy here. My long term intention is still to start my own business but the job I have been offered is quite nice, in the centre of Blenheim and is working with a realy nice bunch of guys (having a bar in the office may take some getting used to!) the pay is not brilliant, but it is well above the average for the area and should certainly be enough to live on (with the savings factored in) the locals in Nelson and Blenheim call these "sunshine wages" the penalty for working in a great climate pity the house prices are not "sunshine prices"! So as I must accept the job this week and none of my other job applications have closing dates til next year I will be going to Blenheim on the 29th January.

So, about blenheim? Well if you actually search on Blenheim on this forum you get something similar to "mostly harmless" Well as I'm going for the posting of the month award I better flesh this out a bit, though as I have never stayed the night there yet and it's only based on three trips it wont be much until my next posting in a few months time..

My first impression of Blenhiem was that it was a nice town but situated in a crap location. The nutter who decided to locate it in the middle of a vineyard and not 10KM west in the foothills of those beutiful mountains should have been shot, (he may have been!) still in my opinion it wasn't that bad and even seemed sunnier than Nelson; (A Scientific observation based on the fact it was cloudy in Nelson and Sunny in Blenheim twice, and the third time both were sunny, also they're definately having a harder time with the drought than Nelson.)

The journey from Blenhiem to Nelson is really beautiful, you really need to do it in an MG or MX5 though, top down, totty in the passenger seat.. NOT in a Di-shit-su 700! I actually got overtaken at one point in Rai Valley by a bloody Anglia 1200, and, one that looked in worst shape than Harry Potters after being whomped by the willow! You can't even duck down behind the steering wheel to hide your shame (I bet they come with an optional extra of a samuria sword in Japan in case the shame gets too much!) I would say in a decent car you could legally do the trip in under 90 minutes, you could probably shave another 10 minutes off if you put your foot down on the straights. Most of the towns between have decent sized houses scattered around and acres+ plots for sale for around $200-$400K some come with ridiculous sizes like 100+ acres for a few dollars more though you would have to be pretty reclusive to take one on. Havelock was quite nice with a little school and nice pub (which was for sale for under $300K!) it was about an hour from nelson and 30 minutes from Blenheim and on the Marlborough sounds if you like being on the coast.

Cont..

bozandhelen
30th December 2005, 07:25 PM
..Back to Blenheim, I did the usual cruise the main streets in the car (windows up and AM radio off in case anyone noticed me) and, yes, the suburbs were a bit featureless in places but there were some really nice houses and parks at the south end of town bordering the hills and reserve, there were also some nice areas around the girls college and a nice river/park curving through the town centre which I diddn't notice until my third time there. Prices seem slightly cheaper than Nelson but I've yet to get the insider info on the good/bad areas and check out the primary schools. (my prospective boss said there were'nt really any bad areas in the Interview, but he would say that!)

I also went on to Picton which is only 25 minutes away from Blenheim town centre and on a nice road, the town centre was really nice and buzzing with lots of street cafes and bars and lots of nice hills and water to look at. Property prices here seem cheaper than both Nelson and Blenheim but again I havent looked into anything yet, however having a ferry to Wellington may add another tick for the wifey. Going back over the queen charlot driveway was also pretty Awesome (good kiwi word!) but it really is a scenic route only you would not commute this daily!

And the rest?

Cars? still looking for something under $5K that hasn't done 150KM+ and isn't older than my mum, You wont find anything with an airbag in that range and I would say it only starts getting decent once you pay over $8K

Beer? not too bad, quite a few local breweries in Nelson, though everything is served chilled. Tui's quite good (So good they even named a bird after it!)

Costs? I've spent about $800 since Dec 1st, but I do have everything here pre-paid so my costs are minimal and only cover batchelor pad type living, petrol and the occasional night out. I did invest $30 in a phone card and $35 to get a SIM card for my mobile and the AA membership of course. Supermarket prices seem OK to me (as a bloke who doesnt do supermarkets)

Sand-flys; Got a couple of bites but none on the beach, so not sure why they call them sand-flies they're more like your bog-standard mossies, I was expecting to be attacked by swarms of them from day 1 from some of the comments here!

vegimite? tastes the same as marmite after a few days.

Vegetarian: Har Har, your going to actually have to like eating vegetables and not those quarm meaty things, you will also be ridiculed to death the first BBQ you attend (all in the best possible taste of course) the sanitarium vegi-bangers are just about passable but they will get thrown on the barbie with everything else if your not careful.

Kiwi's? Nice bunch of people so far. I even made contact with the local hash-beer-swilling-running club and get at least one night out a week with a couple of dozen guys with all beer and food (and transport most times!) for $10. Got invited to a BBQ on XMAS morning which was nice and I've been invited to a BBQ on new years eve. I and about a dozen other people sitting in a street cafe did get the finger and some colourful lingo off a passing teen in his 'sports car' though, but until they bring back the death penalty these little incidents will always be there to spoil things. (ooh, did my politics slip out there!)

Language: English (sort of), but remember 'homie' means a person born and bred in NZ and does not mean homosexual!

TV: Crap, really crap!

Radio: Pretty good, Nelson classic hits is very like Virgin radio without the footy and as I can't stand footy that's not a problem. I bet blenheim radio is really pants now I've said that!

To sum it up.. Love the place, love the environment, but really miss my wife and daughter and should never have made the move without them.

Boz


Quick update: I've now signed the contract and start on the 30th Jan. I've arranged for the family to come over around the middle of February and my belongings and car will arrive shortly afterwards (and Brent Council can stuff there dodgy parking ticket where the sun don't shine!) I still need to find a rental for 6 months or until our house in the UK sells before we buy and this is proving a little difficult at the moment.

gil
30th December 2005, 08:18 PM
Great post Boz, really interesting and funny!
Question: what makes you say having your own business is "dead easy"? I'd be v interested as this is something I'm toying with......
Gil

pleccy2000
30th December 2005, 08:20 PM
Sorry - can you repeat that please?





Kidding. What a great post, thank you for sharing!

K&CS
30th December 2005, 08:42 PM
Great post. We love Nelson - in fact our avatar is of my daughter on Tahunanui beach. We went out for a walk one evening (possibly that was 2 years ago to the day actually!) and the tide was out and the kids spent an hour just jumping over the 'puddles' and it was one of those strange moments in life when you just feel completely happy. I think it was then that we decided we wanted to live in NZ!

Sorry you're missing your family so much - must be very difficult for you - still not long to go now!

We would have seriously considered Nelson - it was just the work factor that was the problem. So much easier for OH to find work in Christchurch.

Please keep us posted and good luck with the job (and the house sale).

Kate

bozandhelen
31st December 2005, 07:14 AM
Question: what makes you say having your own business is "dead easy"? I'd be v interested as this is something I'm toying with......
Gil
Hi

The sole trader option under NZ law does not require any formal company formation procedures and at its simplest means you can just stick and advert in the paper and sell your product or services. You take "drawings" out of the business as your pay, and these are taxed at the normal rate, the tax calculations seem a doddle as well, though it would probably best have an accountant look over what are considered drawings and what are considered expenses. You also charge and pay GST on any goods and services you offer, though you cannot reclaim the GST until you earn over $60K.

If you employ other people to "help run the business" then you have a few more worries of PAYE, Health and Safety etc but realistically it means you can employ the OH in some capacity as a tax advantage. (I guess?!!)

According to the leaflet, unless you form a proper company you cannot register your trademark or name so if your ABC Taxis in Auckland, you can start ABC taxis in Nelson without a problem if they are also a sole trader, but if they are a registered company they can legally ask you to stop trading under their name. It costs $60 to form a proper company but then you need to go through the proper company tax returns procedures, auditing etc

I read the bumf from both the chamber of commerce and NZ Work and income and talked long and hard to one of the girls in the Nelson Chamber of Commerce and nothing sinister came up.

Whether your visa has any restrictions is another matter, I couldn't find anything saying there are restrictions in mine (which is a bog-standard skilled migrant visa) though I must admit to not going into too much detail. Anyway the point is mute for me as I will be working for another company initially and will only go for it when I think the time and product I can sell is right. I will be looking into this in detail nearer the end of next year, by then if there are any visa restrictions they should have lapsed.

You must also be aware of your contract restrictions which may be buried at the end saying something like "you may not compete with your employer withing 50KM for 12 months" my current job will be computers and networks, basically hardware, but I would plan to offer a freelance programming service, software, which my current company does not offer so *no conflict*.

This is probably a good time to shoot me down in flames just so I can understand the rules myself......

Boz

Avalon
31st December 2005, 02:05 PM
The journey from Blenhiem to Nelson is really beautiful, you really need to do it in an MG or MX5 though, top down, totty in the passenger seat.. ..

:cheers I feel the same way about the wairarapa (though i'll give a miss on the Totty if thats ok!)

Really Really missing my Mx5.

Im glad you like it down there

Hugs

gil
31st December 2005, 07:54 PM
Thanks Boz, you are a mine of information! :clap

I am in the management development field and our PR was granted based on hubby as primary applicant under skilled migrant category (surveying), so I would assume it's almost irrelevant what I do. I'm sure someone will correct me if that's wrong!

I had thought of going the employed route initially (and still may) although there are several strong indicators towards being a sole trader straight away, hence the "toying" with it.

Anyway, I don't want to divert the thread any further, so thanks again for the info, and keep posting!

All the best,

Gil

bozandhelen
2nd January 2006, 05:57 PM
Really Really missing my Mx5.

Hi Avalon

Looking for a motor at the moment and I noticed there are quite a few MX5's lurking out there (under the Eunos guise), there are about a dozen or so buzzin around Nelson.. Cheapest I've seen was a 1990 one for $6K... Tempting!

Babette & Andy
3rd January 2006, 08:02 AM
Excellent posting Boz :clap fun to read with lots of useful info.

When in Mapua did you try out the shorefront restaurant (next to a little marine museum)? Do wonderful food with great views of the estuary, where you can go for trips on glassbottom boats at high tide.

Memories . . . my family live on Richmond Avenue in Nelson, we were there in April'04. Had lots of fun on Rabbit Island, building beach huts for the little ones with all the drift wood.

Anyway, will continue to read your posts with interest. Best of luck with the job at the end of the month, and also with the househunting.

Babette

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