[Buyio]

After our experience with NZIS, when they have not recognised none of my work experience, we have decided to find another way of achieving our dream, and this is arrange immigration to Australia. We think that with Australian PR we can easily get a job to NZ and easier to make the move.
It seems Australia is very short about accountants and they are really giving points for qualifications and experience, not mainly for country where you worked from as NZ.
Anyway, we are very happy to take that decision because our dream will have to come true after all... :raebanana wont give up.

Maybe my posting is not in line with the happy postings sharing with us they PR granted, NZ move and others (which I am so very happy for them and never stop reading their postings) but we are not giving up and you guys are the best! we couldn't make it without you. We had such a frustrating period in our lives, seeing that there are not many chances to do what we dream of a life time (could not hope to get tourist visa to come and start unofficially finding a job, way to complicated around here, they are not trusting that you dont want to leave the country after 'holiday' :D ) but hope we are on the good way!
:p

[Singel]

There is acute shortage of accountants in NZ and I'm quite sure that if you come here "on holidays", you will get a job very quickly. Once you get a job offer, go for the work permit so that you could start work. At the same time, submit your EOI (with points for your job offer). We go through this route 2 years ago (OH is in IT) and we got our PRs 4 months later. Things go very fast when you are here.

GOOD LUCK with your immigration whichever route you take :nice1

[marcia]

Some friends of ours had to go 'via Australia' (not literally!!) due to paperwork, they've been in NZ for the more than a year now, it worked for them so can be done. Don't give up hope, I'm sure if you keep trying there will be a door with your name on it!! :)

[foolsgold99]

Be very careful of this route..

I posted this a couple of months ago, when Matt was having his problems.

To do it this way and be sure, you need to stay in Aus for 2 years and get citizenship, alternatively you can get Aus PR go straight over and take your chances (see below), at least you will have 2 years of NZ work experiance then, you can apply for NZ residence at the endof the 2 years and let the Aussie one lapse.

Hope I've explained this properly:confused:


you can live in NZ if you have PR in Aus, but not the other way about anymore.

So yes, you could fly into Aussie, get your PR stamped, and then fly over to NZ. You're legal to work. Sounds good yes??

Actually no, it's just a short term solution. The problem is that in couple of years time years time, your Aussie RRV will expire, and to get it renewed and get a permanent Aussie PR, you'll have to demonstrate that you've been resident in Aus for the last 2 years. As you've not, at this stage you'll lose your Aussie PR, and you have no right to remain in NZ beyond a tourist visa.

You're then dragged sobbing on the first plane back to Pommieland, not pretty huh ? Like someone said above, only way to do it this way is to actually stay in Aussie for 2 years. Gain Aussie citizenship and them move to NZ.

[willsken]

There is acute shortage of accountants in NZ and I'm quite sure that if you come here "on holidays", you will get a job very quickly. Once you get a job offer, go for the work permit so that you could start work. At the same time, submit your EOI (with points for your job offer). We go through this route 2 years ago (OH is in IT) and we got our PRs 4 months later. Things go very fast when you are here.

GOOD LUCK with your immigration whichever route you take :nice1

I think this may be the safer option.

[katandbob]

good luck, and hope your dreams come true.

Kat

[bpk]

wish you a good luck

[Hannah]

Hi Buyio,
I wish you all the luck with whatever option you chose. I agree with Singel though - if you can get yourself here on holiday and then find a job you will be fine, and i think you will have no problem finding a job.
Your post raises a good point on this forum - that some people will find it much harder to apply for PR in New Zealand (or even to get there on holiday) just because of the country in which they were born. Many on this forum are from UK and it is easy to give UK related advise (like "just come here on a visitor visa first") and it is also easy to take for granted how relatively easy it is to apply for PR when you are from UK. (Some who have been through PR process may not agree that it is 'easy' - but it is certainly 'easier' than for other people not from the UK).
Buyio, I think you need to keep in mind your skills and what you can offer the country in terms of those skills and experience. Your nationality may make your application more difficult (e.g. in applying for a visitor visa) but it shouldn't completely stop you (I'm not aware of any countries for which they won't give a visitor visa at all). NZIS should look at your skills, and give you points for your job offer regardless of your nationality. When you apply for a work permit they will look at your ability to do the job you have been offered - I don't think work permits rely on having work experience in a 'comparable labour market' in the same way PR does. If you get a work permit you can then keep applying for them until you are ready to apply for PR (when you will have enough NZ work experience points to take your points total over 100 - you get more points for work experience). It is another route, and one that people who can't get 100 points even with a job offer can consider.
Is your qualification not recognised also?

Anyway, wish you all the best Buyio - keep going!
Hannah

[Buyio]

Hannah, hi, thanks so much for your posting. It seems you know this problem of getting a holiday visa being from a non EU country. The story is like this: I was born in Brazil (but dont have citizenship, they refused it to me) and I am Romanian citizen. As bad as it can be, Romania is not an EU country (hopefully Jan 2007 will chance this...) and therefore we are requested a holiday visa for NZ. However, Romania does not have a NZ consulate/embassy and we have to address our visa request to London or Budapest NZ consulate. All nice so far, but our request must be submitted together with records of all our properties (houses, lands, cars etc), original work contract from actual employment, evidences that you are in a holiday and your employer has giving you permission to leave to vacation, bank statement attesting funds (reasonable I think) and everything else that may convince the consulate that you will not remain in NZ after the holiday. The worst part is that the answer will arrive in about 6 months (maybe more) and in 90% of the cases is a polite "No", sometimes with motivation, sometimes without any motivation. The process is quite long, quite expensive and at the end they will reject your visa application because they dont seem convinced that you will return home :confused: So...no more holiday visa option:o
This is why we have decided to go via Australia, otherwise even if I can claim 100 points (which I can, thank God my qualifications are recognized) without a job offer the chances are almost zero.
Or maybe another option is just wait for 2007 and see if Romania joins EU and maybe (maybe!) we will be able to entry NZ as visitors just like all other people from UK or US or EU countries
In the past we were confident that our qualifications and work experience will be appreciated and recognized by NZIS but instead of this we are still wearing the "country citizenship" stamp in our passports...and nothing else matters.
All the best to you to Hannah...and see you in NZ not in the shortest time but soon! :D

[StevieD]

Think the Australian option looks the best to me... bide your time, and see what goes, you may even love Australia and not want to take the NZ option!

Good luck regardless. :)