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JohnM
15th May 2006, 12:50 PM
Hey Mates,
I just got back from the brutal 30 hour return journey from NZ. I went by myself, am American, saw four cities/regions, and was looking at jobs, housing, immigration, etc. I'm single with no family, and have a profession on the long term and critical shortage lists. I had an interview in Nelson (applied over the internet and they waited for me to be in country - still waiting to hear), spent four days there, had a car, and looked at quite a bit of the "top of the south". I then flew via Wellington to Napier, had a car and spent 4 days there. Then drove to Gisborne for one night, drove through the Gorge road to Tauranga, spent three days in the Bay of Penty, flew to Auckland and left.

I can't stress enough how helpful people were to me in NZ -everywhere I went. from the American - Mark - in Nelson who met me for beers and dinner and we spent 3 hours talking about his and my experiences, to an old man on the beach in Golden Bay,who had just finished his homestay in Tauranga and was taking a break, to the motel owners, to the UK immigrant/developer in Napier who invited me to his $1.4 M home overlooking the pacific, without even seeing me, to the real estate agent who showed me houses in Nelson, to the real estate agent who called me out of the blue because the UK guy had asked him to help me - this agent recommended an American immigration lawyer who was in town, to the said immigration lawyer who talked to me for 45 minutes on the phone, never once mentioning any kind of payment and who recommended I just sell up and move over (and by the way Americans can get 2 extensions on thier visitors visa which totals 90 days you can stay there until you get a job - I did not know this), to another guy in Napier who said he would shop my CV around, to the bank tellers, servers in restaurants, flight attendants, winery personnel, to strangers on the street who always said hello and made eye contact, rental car agents, etc, etc. etc,. I was blown away by total stragers sometimes, and everyone was generally interested and positive. thank you to all of these people and probably some I have left out.

I took more than 100 digital pictures and an hour and a half of video, kept a written journal, had a great time and did not want to come back home.

this was the trip to make the decision to move to NZ - and the answer is....YES. However, I have 2 houses to sell here in a bad market, so I cannot go soon. But I will be determined to go at some point. And I will just move over, with no job, and take my chances. I have decided though, with my job skills (software/business analyst), I will probaly need to go to Wellington first (even though I didn't see it, but not a bad start, eh?). I did not see much opportunity in the other cities I visited.

Hope this helps someone thinking about it - it was my 2nd trip, and confirmed my "suspicions", haha.

I've left a lot out, but if you have questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Cheers, cheers!

John

K&CS
15th May 2006, 01:49 PM
Hi John

Great post. It's really nice to read such a positive post. Good luck with the house sales and finding a job. Sounds like your mind is made up - I'm sure you won't regret it!

Kate

wilson182
15th May 2006, 02:43 PM
Nice post John, How about a blog of your journal entries...would probably make great reading:nice1

knx501
15th May 2006, 03:06 PM
Thanks John. It helps. I am currently in the US and I got my PR last March but I having a second though.

Lukas
15th May 2006, 04:34 PM
...I would remind you the rule no 1

DO NOT CONFUSE TURISM WITH IMMIGRATION

...however with two houses to sell in US you have great perspectives to settle well in NZ...

Debbie P.
15th May 2006, 08:31 PM
Great to hear you had such positive experiences. I know what Lukas means about the differences between tourism and immigration, but there's no denying that NZers can be a very nice bunch, even down to the friendly customs officials, compared to the grumpy old so-and-sos at Heathrow.

The very best of luck with your plans - hope you get those houses sorted out :nice1

A blog would be great...

Debbie

StevieD
15th May 2006, 10:12 PM
Good post John :nice1

willsken
15th May 2006, 10:31 PM
Nice to see such a positive post. :nice1

JohnM
16th May 2006, 12:31 AM
Thanks everyone. I had thought about a blog before I left, but never got it set up! I'll see what I can do, It is pretty good reading, I sent an email to family and friends everyday I was there, and when I could get online.

I didn't confuse tourism with immigration. I went there again for the purpose of checking it out for jobs, housing, etc. Not that I couldn't help a lot of touring - with the fantastic scenery every where you look. But since it was low tourist season, I was able to interact with the locals a lot.

there were some negatives too, like crap TV (but this has been stated before), boy racers everywhere (who are they trying to impress? There was nobody on the streets but them), some things are expensive, Internet connections in motels were lacking. And job opportunities in my field weren't where I wanted to live. But still it was positive enough for me to still go for it when I am able to.

I am going to try and add up what the trip cost me so people can get an idea and will post when I've got it sorted out.

John

Diny
16th May 2006, 07:02 AM
Great post John, sounded like you had a great time and managed to cram alot into your short visit.

I know exactly what Lukas means by not confusing tourism with immigration - but hey - such is life. You sound well prepared and full of enthusiasm, that alone will help you a huge amount.

All the best and keep us posted.

Diny

ChrisK
16th May 2006, 07:13 AM
I was just wondering if you could explain the "not confusing Tourism with immigration"

Lukas
16th May 2006, 09:27 AM
well... basically...go in a nice resort for a holiday... feel great...then try to settle on that place...soon the holiday place will look less nice...few job opportunities, surwival level salaries, daly rutine, even just the lack of social life.

Diny
16th May 2006, 09:54 AM
I've been to NZ many many times on holiday, living here is totally different to being here on holiday.

Not saying it all turns to custard, just that actually living in a place - taking on the day to day routines of everybody else makes you realise that 'tourism and immigration' are completely different - not in a bad way though.

Diny

JohnM
17th May 2006, 02:48 AM
Thanks Diny,
I did cram a lot into the two weeks, but I wanted to get a feel for the places I wanted to live. I am fully aware that the salaries are lower, and it ain't no holiday anymore when you move there. But I am definitely full of encouragement and positive attitude about NZ regardless. I am not going to go there thinking I'm going to get rich, in fact that's the mentality I want to get AWAY from. It's a lifestyle choice for me. If I have to start in Wellington, I will, and I have the rest of my life to explore that great country!

By the way - I got an email rejection for the job I interviewed for in Nelson. Oh well! It was good experience and my first Kiwi interview. I will keep plugging along! Now if I could sell these damn houses......

John

Lukas
17th May 2006, 03:09 AM
You don't have to become rich in NZ ...with two houses to sell you are arlready a rich...

Diny
17th May 2006, 06:59 AM
If I have to start in Wellington, I will, and I have the rest of my life to explore that great country!


John
There's worse places you could be - Wellington is a lovely place !!

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