[Kali ~]

Hi everybody!!
I have a question for you all...

If a go to NZ in a Tourist Visa, i am allowed to stay for three months, i pretend to find a job and get the Work Permit in that time... but if i don't, and the time runs over... Can i go to Australia for a few days (asuming that i have the Visa), and then go back to NZ for a new period of three months??

Please!! i will really enjoy a POSITIVE answer to this question!! jijij
Is it that easy, or am i just really want it to be true?

How much does cost an airplane ticket to Australia (to go and return)?

Waiting for you answers... Hugs for everybody!!

[Oregonkiwi]

Hi Kali,
I think that you can do this - maybe someone else knows for sure?

Another option is, you might be able to get an extension on your visitor visa -
Can I apply for a further Visitor’s Permit?
You can apply for further Visitor’s Permits while you’re here, so long as you don’t exceed the total maximum time allowed for visitors. In many cases this is nine months out of an 18-month period, but you may be eligible to stay for a maximum of 12 months. You’ll have to show that during your stay:

* you’ve supported yourself financially, and have enough money to continue supporting yourself
and
* you’ve not worked, been sponsored, or held a Student Permit.
If you gain this extension you’ll have to leave New Zealand at the end of the 12 months and remain away for 12 months or more before you can again return as a visitor.
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/alreadyinnz/visitors/questionsandanswers/stayinglongerasavisitor/caniapplyforafurthervisitorspermit.htm

and...
What happens when I reach the maximum time as a visitor? How long must I stay out of New Zealand before returning?

Broadly speaking, you need to leave New Zealand before your permit expires and remain away for the same length of time as you were here. For example, if you visit for nine months, you’ll need to stay away for nine months before returning.
But you may not be entitled to another stay of the same length. The length of any subsequent stay is dependent on how long you have spent in New Zealand in the period immediately preceding your application and whether or not you are a genuine visitor.
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/alreadyinnz/visitors/questionsandanswers/stayinglongerasavisitor/whathappenswhenreachmaximumtime.htm

For an idea of prices to Australia -
http://www.flightcentre.co.nz/

Good luck with your plans!

[Diny]

[QUOTE=Kali ~]Hi everybody!!
I have a question for you all...

If a go to NZ in a Tourist Visa, i am allowed to stay for three months, i pretend to find a job and get the Work Permit in that time... QUOTE]



This is the only part of your question which rings alarm bells with me. I'm certainly not well rehearsed in matters concerning work visas etc, but I'd strongly advise anybody from 'pretending' anything where the NZIS is concerned.

We may all think we have abit of 'Jack the lad' in us and are 'kicking the system' but believe me, these things have a way of coming back and biting you on the backside when you least expect it (or need it).

Apologies if I'm shooting off at the wrong tangent.

Diny

[Oregonkiwi]

Diny - Kali's other posts express an intention to find a job, and English isn't her first language, so I read "pretend" as just a mistranslation.

If that's the case, Kali, I mean this with kindness, but please look up "pretend" in an English dictionary. I think the word you wanted to use is "try" or "attempt". (Your English is excellent, by the way.)

[anna_c]

Diny, I think this is a translation error and she's using the archaic form of pretend or in other words means she intends to get a job. :)

[anna_c]

Out of pure interest, here are two of the original meanings or pretend from the Oxford English Dictionary, which I think may have caused the confusion. 'Pretend' no longer means this (or certainly not in popular usage.

8. To intend, purpose, design, plan. Obs. a. with simple obj.

9. To aspire to; to take upon one, to undertake; to venture, presume; to attempt, endeavour, try. Const. with inf.


I second Oregon Kiwi about your english being very good generally, though. :yes

(sorry, I'm a geek :laugh )

[Diny]

Then I offer my sincere apologies - I was just concerned that Kali may have been heading for a few unnecessary problems.

Diny

[anna_c]

Kali may have been heading for a few unnecessary problems.

Totally understandable. I will never cease to be amazed at the number of people who quite openly post their intention to defraud immigration services on online forums.

[Diny]

Yeah this is true - and I'm certainly NOT including Kali in this.

NZIS do seem abit lax at times, but maybe they do some 'behind the scenes' stuff which we never know about - in fact, I'd like to put money on the fact that they do. People need to understand that in these days of 'big brother' everything we do on an official basis (such as our dealings with immigration) is logged, tracked and (if necessary) acted upon. Maybe not right away, but like I said earlier, things have a habit of turning around and biting your backside.

I have to repeat - I do NOT include Kali in this.

Diny

[Lizelle]

hi

My visitor's visa ran out, and I just extended it online from the immigration website. No paperwork or anything, you get the reply in a day or two, and you don't have to get your passport stamped again, I suppose it shows up on their system somewhere. If you want to extend it again after that, it gets a bit more complicated, but that gives you 6 months

[Kali ~]

No no no no no no no !!!
You misunderstood me, or i express myself wrong.
The thing is, here in my country, we do use the word “PRETENDER”, to say that we will “try to”, but not asuming that we will achieve what we are trying to do... I have never thought about cheeting NZIS (i don’t know if “cheeting” is the right word).

Thank you all for your answers, i had not been able to find this information on the NZIS website... Sometimes it is a little bit disordered. You never end reading it!!!

Thank you too for your words about my english. In the future, if i make a mistake, feel free to correct me, it will be very usefull to me, that way i can improve the languaje. I think i need to practice more my spoken english, i have nobody to practice with.. Jijij

You don’t know how helpful you all are... Big hugs for everyone :)

[SoCal Gal]

This original post made me think of another question along these lines, so I am hopping in here....about extending the visitor visa, has anyone had any trouble when they first come in to NZ and have that brief interview of 'what are you doing here, how long are you staying, where, etc.?" If I come down with a return ticket for 3 months back (home to US to complete move once job is secured) will I be red-flagged for - why are you taking a 3 month holiday alone? I mean, it would seem that I was looking for a job....
hope this makes sense, we are just trying to sort it all out again, on how best to get that job offer before up and selling all here.
Thank you,
SoCal Gal

[Oregonkiwi]

If I come down with a return ticket for 3 months back (home to US to complete move once job is secured) will I be red-flagged for - why are you taking a 3 month holiday alone? I mean, it would seem that I was looking for a job....

I don't have any personal experience with this, but, people often go to NZ for extended back-packing trips. I would think that as long as you have a return ticket out of the country, you won't look particularly suspicious.

[SoCal Gal]

Sounds like I'll have to change my "look" from an - ahem - 40-ish business woman! ;-)

[Lizelle]

SoCal Gal - from all I have read on the immigration website, it is accepted by immigration that you can come here on a visitor's visa and look for work. I came in with my 3 month ticket and all the paperwork needed to file a eoi, and no-one blinked twice.
Personally, I believe this is one of the reasons that you do not need to go out of the country to change your visa, which is the case for most other countries.

[SoCal Gal]

Thank you, Lizelle, will bring it all! And a good attitude! :-)