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dphillview
5th November 2004, 11:53 AM
Was just wondering as Nov 5th is fast approaching and having just spent another absolute fortune on fireworks, :wah whether this occasion is celebrated in NZ to the same extent... :eek

Please tell me that I'm gonna save a fortune on fireworks!!!! :hopeso

Do the Kiwi's recognise Nov 5th??

Sorry if this is a really silly question...but my excuse is i've had a bottle of wine ...so far....well the night's only young....unlike me!! :eek :eek hee hee

Look forward to your comments!!

jo b
5th November 2004, 12:00 PM
Debs,

My husband has decided to say no to fireworks tomorrow.
Last year my 2 (8 and 4 at the time) came inside and just laugh at them the eldest said they were rubbish :eek

Ian said right then we'll just switch all the lights of go upstairs and watch them from the bedroom windows. When my eldest approached me in disgust at not getting any and expected me to back her up. So I said well when we were kids we never had fireworks every year.

She seemed happy at that response.

Moral of the tale is you can always watch everyone elses and save a fortune :mrgreen:

Jo

Tash
5th November 2004, 12:02 PM
Oh yes :yes ! kiwis celebrate Guy Fawkes Day, or rather the excuse to make things go bang!

karltsmith
5th November 2004, 02:36 PM
YES Oh yes Kiwis celebrate Guy Fawkes night alright, not only that but they can legally buy fireworks over here at 14 yrs old....nightmare!

One of our local primary schools was set on fire last week due to a few youngsters with fireworks! It burnt down a block of classrooms!

Same problems exist here onthat score I'm afraid!

Moorf
5th November 2004, 02:39 PM
We're off up onto the hills behind Chch tonight to sit and watch over the city as everyone sets off their displays :P

Big display down at Brighton Pier so we should be able to see that if the clouds don't come down :nice1

Timbo
5th November 2004, 10:06 PM
Brighton Pier Moorf? It must feel like a home from home. I doubt that there will be anything going on at the "other" Brighton though.
Did you know that our Tony and co. have now made it illegal to set off fireworks after 11pm. HOORAY! I hate to sound like a killjoy, but where we live, firework night is spread over most of November and some of October. It gets a bit "oh god, here we go again" sort of thing.

lindajax
5th November 2004, 11:20 PM
hi All,

Just a brief note

Nursey head on

PLEASE remember the firework code for anyone who intends to have fireworks or attend any kind of bonfire and display.!!!
It takes but a second for an accident to occur on bonfir enight and the results can take months to heal and years to come to terms with
PLEASE BE CAREFUL

nursey head off

ENJOY YOURSELVES TOO !!!!

love
Linda xxx

AliJax
6th November 2004, 04:03 AM
ALI's QUICK TIP (Always thinkin....) ;)

Get a bucket of wet sand to put your fireworks in, instead of trying to squeeze them into your sodden wet lawn.

If you use two buckets you can alternate so you dont go back to a warm firework in the previous bucket everytime.
:nice1

Kim39
6th November 2004, 04:19 AM
Oh well you have really made my day. BONFIRE NIGHT i hate it!!!!!! why celebrate it in NZ when the whole thing is about a terrorist trying to blow up our House's of Parliament :? Got two dogs that will be dropping certain piles around the house over the next few hours. Hey but those of you who do enjoy it, just do that, ENJOY. Having experience(ambulanceman) from the injury's that can be caused, be careful. :nice1

Tell me do they celebrate xmas,birthdays,anniversaries, i hate them too. :laugh Shut up Kim your coming across as a killjoy :laugh

Diny
6th November 2004, 05:06 AM
Hi Kim

Good to know I'm not the only Kiljoy lurking in the shaddows.

Christmas ..... it's been totally lost to commercialism. It should be a celebration for Christians (not the shopkeepers) ..... I'm an atheist so the story of the nativity doesn't even enter my head. However, I do admit to grasping it as an excuse to eat too much, drink too much and sit in front of the telly too much. I guess it's people like me who give this country a bad name.

Birthdays ..... they kind of lost their appeal after I turned 21.

Anniversaries .... too much made of them I guess. PB and I have only spent a couple of our 15 anniversaries together due to his work, but we always manage a phone call at least. We're not into asking everybody to remember it aswell.

As for bonfire night in NZ ........ it's probably got alot to do with them being a member of the commonwealth - the quuen - head of parliament and all that unnecessary jazz.

Bar humbug to the lot of it !!!!!!!!!

Diny

blue
6th November 2004, 08:38 AM
Kim 39 get some bach flowers rescue remedy from the chemist and give 3 drops under the tongue it helps a lot. I am having big problems with my dogs at the moment. Paddy keeps rushing outside and barking and Red has gone off to hide. He bolted last night when I took him out for his walk when one went off. They have settled down a bit since having the rescue remedy.
In NZ I beleive that you can only buy fireworks for 3 weeks of the year. Also because it gets dark at around 8.30 there is less going off and have been told that they are not as loud as the ones here. It goes on far too long here and am sick and tired of reading about dogs and other animals being hurt by them. I rescued a dog 4yrs ago whom had been tied to a lampost and they had strapped a firework to her leg. We managed to save her leg but her toes had to be amputated and also she had been partially blinded. She past away from heart failure on jan 11th this year but had 4yrs of the best quality of life I could provide for her she was at least 10yrs old when this happened to her and had received 10 yrs of abuse and torture. Its not the fireworks that are the problem but the b****** that get hold of them and do such awfull things. In all the time that Peggy was with us she never once tried to bite or got aggressive and was the sweetest and nicest natured dog that I have ever come across. I did a lot of work with her and before she died in her last two years she became a Pro dog educator and we would got to schools etc to educate kids how to be resposible to animals. She even met a lot of celebrities helped my daughter to recover from major illness and went on TV and in the national papers and dog magazines!

Timbo
6th November 2004, 09:22 AM
Well, eight twenty bonfire night. It now feels and sounds like the estate we live on has been transported to the Battle of the Somme.
I must be getting old.

Kim39
6th November 2004, 12:12 PM
Well been quite surprised this year. Now its 2310 and not a sound, earlier on though, yes, there were fireworks but i must admit not to the extent as usual. One moment earlier though it went quiet then BANG it sounded as though somebody had packed a car full of explosives and let it off. Dogs have not really been affected, a woof here and there, nothing major i am glad to say.

Kim

Diny
6th November 2004, 12:27 PM
Looking at it from the other side of the fence. It is a very old tradition, it brings alot of enjoyment to alot of people.

That idiot Blair is saying that any history further back than WW2 should be forgotten - I'd spend my last penny every year on a firework just to keep the tradition goiing and to annoy the hell out of that little twerp.

However, I do believe that fireworks should not be on sale to the general public. They should be made available to people who are licensed to buy them for the purpose of public displays ..... I know this wouldn't totally eradicate the danger factor but surely it would reduce it by a massive margin?

I think the story about the poor dog being tied up with a rocket to it's leg is very distressing, the people responsible should have had the same thing done to them. But I can honestly say that if I was planning a fireworks party, the fact that some dog in the neighbourhood was going to crap himself each time a bang went off wouldn't effect my decision one bit. I'm not a dog lover as you know. Before anybody slays me for that comment, I think what is needed is a major shake up of the rules, we need a new system that is better for every man and beast.

Each year we see bigger, louder, flashier fireworks for sale to the general public ........ sooner or later something horrific is going to happen !!!!

No offence meant by any of my comments :nice1

Diny

Kim39
6th November 2004, 12:55 PM
Diny,

BANG on with your comments, in total agreement. I don't want to spoil peoples fun and enjoyment, not everybody is like me, but there is a simple way to deal with this and the authorities know them, it doesn't need us to point them in that direction.

Excuse pun at beginning :laugh

Carol
7th November 2004, 08:04 AM
Hardly ever go to the trouble of finding a firework display to go to - and never ever buy them.
Maybe a few sparklers.....

Having said that....we have been invited to one next week. Am going - but only because we've nowt better to do!


BAH HUMBUG too!!!!
:laugh :laugh :laugh

lindajax
7th November 2004, 10:16 PM
Diny,
I agree with the comment about bigger fireworks on sale to people who have no clue how to safely use them an donly being made available to licensed display organisers.

Invariably though it is the children that get hurt in the process and the shopkeepers that sell them to older kids ( 18ish) who then distibute them to younger ones.

I know its not against the law to sell them to people above 18 but shopkeepers nees to take a big look at these 18 year olds and make a safetly decision on what they think they actually may do with them.

unfortunately accidents also happen at organised dispalys but this is very rare and therfore probably the safest option.

My ward has at the moment got children with firework and bonfire injuries and will probably get a few more over the next couple of weeks and it is the same year in year out!!!!!

RANT OVER

Love
Linda

PS just to sound really hypocritical we had 2 evenings/ parties for family and friends with fireworks BUT did it as safely as possible - no sprklers- no bonfire - kids at safe distance and some smaller ones indoors, sand buckets ready, first aid stuff available and a burns nurse to hand!.
All of us enjoyed it but I was a bag of nerves the whole time.

Annierobrigado
8th November 2004, 04:24 PM
what kind of fireworks are being sold in nz that gets a lot of people nervous around them? or are these not being regulated?

actually, i enjoy watching fireworks at safe distance (the designs are more beautiful to see), but i hate to think of the money that's gone with a bang! i'm sure they cost quite a bit, and then just go pffffttt...

what about new year's eve?

diny, you'll not get a bag of cadbury's caramel chocolates or whatever from me if you go bah humbug during christmas! what will the kids say!
tsktsk.. (joke joke joke...)

:cheers
annie

Diny
9th November 2004, 12:01 AM
Ooops - sorry Annie

I can asure you I don't preach my 'bar humbug' attitude to the children - and even if I did they wouldn't listen !!!

They have a great Christmas, I'll leave them to decide what they believe in .......... honestly I will ;)

Diny

Annierobrigado
9th November 2004, 04:12 PM
they will believe in aunt diny if you give them boxes and boxes of gifts to open on christmas. truly! playstation 2 or gameboy advanced would do very nicely thank you.

I could do with a bag of truffles... ;)

:laugh :laugh :laugh :raebanana :raebanana :raebanana

annie

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