[jo b]

I am asking this question for you season kiwi's out there.

PB you may be able to help.

As you know Ian has applied for a job. The closing date was 28th Oct and we recieved an email to say they would be in touch after the closing date.

I personally would have followed it up with a phone call to find out more about the position, the set up of the business and the recruitment process and ultimately to show I am keen. Yes I am a little more forecoming than some but then I have been in sales all my life ;) .

my question is this, is this the done thing in NZ or is it seen as mithering or if you don't phone up is it seem as not being that bothered.

As you can tell I am keen as mustard toget over there now as soon as poss. Ian needs mroe time to get used to the idea (Ithink over 6 years planning, mulling, discussing, debating etc.should really be enough :laugh )

Any advice would be appreciated

Yours thankfully in advance.

Jo

[Pakeha Boy]

Well Jo, way I see it theres two ways to go there. Ians' job has gone to a closing date. Jobs with a closing date usually means a highly qualified and professional appointment. It could be they have two hundred other applicants waiting to hear about the same job, and if they all start ringing up and bugging whoever for a bit more info or ingratiate themselves that little bit more, then Ians call could be the straw that breaks the camels back, they'll get all off and he'll shoot himself in the foot.
If someone wants a closing date set, there'll be a good reason for it and thats that.
But then again, if it were me, I'd be on the phone and emailing them every ten minutes 'til they were begging me to take the job!
I don't think there is anything wrong with going the extra mile to get what you want, and if some dolly on the end of the phone gets a tad annoyed with too many phone calls so what? What's she gonna do? Tell the boss!?
No one has ever come knocking on my door with good news, I've always had to go out and get it. I'm a firm beleiver in the old adage "you make your own luck", so I'd grab the bull by the horns but that's just me.

Good Luck to you Ian, however you choose to play it. :hopeso




oh, and remember...
"If you don't let go, you're never going to fall"

[Annierobrigado]

whatever ian does probably is ok, even if you call and bug the receptionist about the job. i mean, the kiwis are really naturally pleasant, i think, from all the contact i've had with them.

my husband has been online for a long time (well not continuously) trying to apply to all relevant jobs, and each time, the organization or company was very courteous in their rejection, and two even explained that the main reason he could not be considered finally for the job is because he isnt in new zealand yet.

we've submitted eoi's but havent been selected yet, but one fine morning ric got an email message from one of the human resources directors asking about us and our status on the migration. so we said we submitted our eois and are awaiting selection, and the director said to email them as soon as our status changes. wow! i mean, they must find my husband very appealing (workwise of course, heeheehee) to look him up and contact him and ask him to contact them again (despite their rejecting him before). who does that now? not here in the philippines.

so go girl, sometimes the cerebral man needs the wily woman to do the pushing of buttons and stuff like that. ian seems to be a thinking man, so it's up to you to be the wind beneath his wings. :laugh the kiwis won't mind. they'd probably cheer you on.

good luck!

annie

[jo b]

Thanks PB and Annie,

I shall be on his case tonight :mrgreen:

Jo

[jesselyn]

hi jo,

will vote for calling and letting them know you are keen. :nice1

sis emailed the recruitment agency who is assisting my bro in law umm in his behalf. ;)
i think the owner kinda liked it - he said he is doing his best in helping him find a job bec he is keen... :yes

umm i dunno the exact words - err, something like that tho :oops:

all the best,
jes :angel

[Diny]

Jo

Before we had the kids I was in charge of the temporary staff registered with the Aberdeen branch of Brook Street. I had hundreds of applicants pass through my doors. They all left their CV's.

It was the ones who would keep in touch and let me know their availability that always got the work. The ones who sent in a CV and never contacted me again were put on the bottom of the pile and eventually 'shredded'.

Even if I got a quick phone call which lasted about 10 seconds, it showed me that they were keen, available and willing .... it cut my work load down heaps because I knew I had an 'active' bank of staff. I had no time or inclination to carry around any dead wood.

Would like to point out that I am NOT saying Ian is dead wood :no , just trying to let you know that in my opinion he should call.

If these postings fail to convince him ...... use a whip :nice1

Diny

[chips]

Hubbie had not heard a pip from a school he had applied on line to. So about a week after the closing date he phoned , to find that infact, even though he had phoned to talk to someone at the school prior to applying ( to sound them out about over seas applicants). they never recieved his application ,and had not appointed anyone. After phone calls , a visit from someone who works at the school ,whilst on holiday here, he was offered the job.

Phoning worked on this occasion, but there have been others where he hasn't even bothered with applying ,becauseof the persons attituded on the other end of the phone.
If you show you are keen ,like joss said, if they are worth working for, they will know where you are coming from .
Chips

[jo b]

thanks for all your advice,

usually he would phone but as NZ is a different culture I wanted to understand what the protocol was.

Diny, I am similar to you as we speak I am recruiting 5 people, if people don't phone me to find out about the position and 'sell themselves' then I just think they are trying their luck so to speak.

Anyway I am now as we speak (or type) going to write down a list of questions for 'im indoors to ask, as he has only ever applied internally before or when he applied for jobs people knew of him and his skills.

Cheers all I'll keep you posted on the outcome.

Jo