[Hannah]

Sorry, I must sound so dim, but know someone somewhere out there knows the answer and i'm sure it's really obvious....

I was issued my PR permit in April 06 and came back to UK on RRV in May 06. Am going back to NZ in Jan 07 and will get my passport stamped again with a PR permit. If I want to leave NZ later in the year for a holiday, or work trip or whatever, do I need to apply for an RRV again or does my current RRV (which expires May 08) allow multiple trips in and our of NZ.

I'm assuming it only allows me to leave once, then it expires, as it's not a multiple RRV. I'm also assuming if i apply for a new RRV within the 2 year period up to May 08, i will only be issued one for 2 weeks???? Am i right or am i dim????!!

thanks! Hannah

[spudulike]

Hi Hannah,

You can leave NZ multiple times within the timescale of your RRV as it is valid for 2 years. You shouldn't get another permit either as you already have one in your passport which is still valid. The only problem you will encounter is you are unlikely to get the IRRV after 2 years as you won't have fulfilled the requirements so they will probably issue another temporary one until you have met the criteria.

Hope you can understand my garbled answer.

Louise :)

[edmundt]

Just to clarify. I thought if Hannah fulfills the requirement of staying not less than 184 days for her 1st year in NZ followed by another not less than 184 days for her 2nd year in NZ, an indefinite RRV will be issued at the end of 2 years.

There seems to be another less stringent criteria, whereby you only need to be gainfully employed in NZ for not less than 9 months during the 2 years before an IRRV will be issued to you.

Therefore, Hannah can either return to NZ slightly earlier, say Dec '06 instead of Jan '07 to fulfill the 184 days for the 1st year or just be genuinely employed on a full time job for not less than 9 months to obtain the IRRV.

Would appreciate if someone can confirm my understanding, least I give wrong info to Hannah. Has anyone gotten IRRV by either of the route above?

[spudulike]

[QUOTE=edmundt]Just to clarify. I thought if Hannah fulfills the requirement of staying not less than 184 days for her 1st year in NZ followed by another not less than 184 days for her 2nd year in NZ, an indefinite RRV will be issued at the end of 2 years.

There seems to be another less stringent criteria, whereby you only need to be gainfully employed in NZ for not less than 9 months during the 2 years before an IRRV will be issued to you.

Therefore, Hannah can either return to NZ slightly earlier, say Dec '06 instead of Jan '07 to fulfill the 184 days for the 1st year or just be genuinely employed on a full time job for not less than 9 months to obtain the IRRV.

QUOTE]

Here is the info from the NZIS website;

Am I eligible for an indefinite Returning Resident’s Visa?

To be eligible you must:
have been the principal applicant in your original residence application, or be included in a Returning Resident's Visa application by the original principal applicant.

have held a residence permit at a time which was a minimum of two years before you apply.

met any requirements previously imposed under section 18A of the Immigration Act.

and
you have spent a lot of time in New Zealand already – 184 days or more in every year for the past two years

or one of the following ways:

you have tax residence status here - you have spent 41 days or more in each of the two years in New Zealand and you are assessed by the Inland Revenue Department as being a resident tax payer for the past two years.
you have acceptable investments here either as a Business Investor or in another residence category.

you have successfully established a business here that has been trading for at least 12 months.

you have established a base here – this depends on the time you and your family have spend here, whether you own a home, whether you have a fulltime job


I don't think you could spend less than 184 days here in the first year and 'make it up' in the second. My response to Hannah was based on her date to return (she wouldn't fulfil the 184 days in the first year). I also didn't think you could just work 9 months in the 2nd year and have your IRRV awarded on that criteria - as far as I'm aware you really need to fulfil the requirements in both years although I'm sure somebody on here can correct me if I'm wrong. :D I think the 9 months you are talking about comes under 'establishing a base here' so it would be intersting to find out....

Either way Hannah, in response to your original querie you'll be fine leaving and entering NZ whilst your current RRV is valid then you can apply for another whether that be temporary or permanent. :D

Louise :)

[Hannah]

Thanks for your replies.
Re the IRRV bit, I assume that if the 184 days thing applies to the 2 years before you put in your application for an RRV. i.e. i don't need to return in Dec 06, but rather just need to apply for my IRRV in June 08 rather than May 08.

Does that make sense.

What i mean is, i assume NZIS won't refuse to offer an IRRV to someone because they didn't stay for 184 days or more in the year immediately following their initial RRV being issued. I would just have to wait until i had met the qualifying conditions and then apply. I don't plan to leave NZ in my first year or two anyway, but my son is coming back for a month and he already has his first RRV. I'm the principal applicant so i assume it's my residence in NZ that counts anyway???

hannah

[spudulike]

Thanks for your replies.
Re the IRRV bit, I assume that if the 184 days thing applies to the 2 years before you put in your application for an RRV. i.e. i don't need to return in Dec 06, but rather just need to apply for my IRRV in June 08 rather than May 08.

Does that make sense.

What i mean is, i assume NZIS won't refuse to offer an IRRV to someone because they didn't stay for 184 days or more in the year immediately following their initial RRV being issued. I would just have to wait until i had met the qualifying conditions and then apply. I don't plan to leave NZ in my first year or two anyway, but my son is coming back for a month and he already has his first RRV. I'm the principal applicant so i assume it's my residence in NZ that counts anyway???

hannah

I called NZIS as edmundt's post got me thinking (well done for that - it doesn't happen easily :D )

Anyway, If the principal applicant owns their own house OR has worked in NZ for 9 months over the 2 years (including 41 days in the 2nd year) they will be eligible for a IRRV after your initial RRV has expired. For family members to get it also, they have to have resided in NZ for at least 164 days in the 2 years. Hope that makes sense :roll

From our situation, that means that we arrived in Feb 06 and will now return home in June 07 and will still be eligible for the IRRV despite not having spent the full 2 years in NZ. After I called them, my hubby also did as he couldn't quite believe me and the woman went over all the small print with him.

There are 4 other criteria too and you only have to meet one of them so you should be fine!!

Hope that helps and thnks edmundt!

Louise

[Hannah]

Thanks Louise (and Edmunt for getting Louise thinking!) - that clarifies things for me.
Cheers
Hannah